Illegal street-race crash kills 8 in crowd

This is why the racing should stay on the track.

Yeah. The video game Need For Speed Prostreet is what the "underground" racing scene should be. Plus, racing is much more fun when its done professionaly. There can't be any arguments of who was faster or had a better lap time. Closed course racing is definately better. No question.

What is a 61 year old man doing at an illegal street race and what is a 27 year old woman doing bringing her child to an illegal race at 3am?

Man! These people sure are smart!

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Interesting situation. Reminds me a little of an elderly man in Santa Monica, CA who decided that before he died, he really did want to see what it was like to run over or through a crowd of people in the street - well, that wasn't the official account, but ten people died in the carnage.

Where the head lights on or weren't they? Forensics can determine if they were. IF they weren't, it would seem as though it was intentional, if not, was he a sleepy driver and the people unaware of oncoming traffic?

People standing in the street for any reason - does not entitle them to death - don't mix issues and don't be so shallow as to blame the spectators simply because it was an illegal street race they were attending. Whether they were watching a parade or an illegal street race makes no difference. If death was the punishment for spectating, I'm sure we could find a suitable crime to apply the same to any of you...

... I am not condoning street racing.

Voyager, certainly you'll agree that it's not wise for a mother to bring a child to a inherently dangerous and illegal street race.

There's multiple issues with this situation.

1) illegal street racing
2) the intent of the driver of the darkened 3rd car
3) the neglect of the child at the scene by the mother
4) the neglect of the child by the mother's father (child's grandfather?).

I figure if the mother had the child when she was 12, then at the most the child was around 15 years old. Still too young to be out at 3am, much less at an illegal street race.

I'm sure there are more that I'm not thinking of.

That is why legal, planned events have professionals and law enforcement to oversee spectator safety. I'm not saying that if the driver did this on purpose he was right to do so. But the spectators were definitely ignoring all safety precautions in being there.

I hear what you are saying YoungKrew - and Keitarusm, pedestrians have the right of way - regardless of the time of night, or the reason they are pedestrians, period.

The issue of whether they were there as spectators to something is irrelevant - they were pedestrians.

Had the driver of that car turned out his headlights, my only conclusion at this point is that he did so to sneak up on those people to kill some - knowing full well that people's response would neglect to look at his actions or contribution to the deaths and focus on the fact some people were drag racing illegally.

I don't support, condone nor participate in illegal street racing, but the reality of life is that Americans, not terrorists take part in it in huge numbers nightly.

The aggravating factor is that the media, law enforcement and ignorant people portray "car people" or "enthusiasts" as bad, unsophisticated, uneducated, ignorant or what have you - rather than address the fact that automotive sports are huge, make that HUGE in this country and accommodate them in safe ways. I don't mean like providing a track where policeman stand around because the "fools" can't look after themselves and it's got to close at some arbitrary time because the City Council says so.

There are fewer people killed by illegal street racing each year than are killed wrongfully by law enforcement each year. There are fewer people killed by illegal street racing each year than are killed in Iraq each month probably each week, maybe even day.

Again, I am not condoning street racing.

This is very sad news and my condolences to those that passed. None of this should be happening if our authorities and this part of America's personal character was up to follow the levels of humanity and civility. When a person do not know the meaning of life, it becomes very hard for that person to have respect for others and their your own life for that matter. Change will not happen if a person or a culture do not recognize that they are wrong first.

There are weakness of "spiritual character" in the family, in the schools, in industry, in the government, in commerce, in the media and in the games that does not alert the kids the difference of what is an illusion what is reality. Bringing illusional concepts into reality is a very dangerous preposition from the beginning to the end. Just look at San Francisco's traffic today with kids and adults blasting their boom boxes, roaring with their cars and motorcycles speeding inside City limits disturbing its inhabitants until late hours of the night. I see no other solution but installing "ticket ready" acoustic and speed cameras at street corners. Since you are going to loose your liberty, because of your anti-social behavior and the bad attitude of some drivers that cannot be trusted to drive in their own behalf, don't forget to call each one of them that contributed to destroy your driving privacy to begin with it.

Interesting situation. Reminds me a little of an elderly man in Santa Monica, CA who decided that before he died, he really did want to see what it was like to run over or through a crowd of people in the street - well, that wasn't the official account, but ten people died in the carnage.

Where the head lights on or weren't they? Forensics can determine if they were. IF they weren't, it would seem as though it was intentional, if not, was he a sleepy driver and the people unaware of oncoming traffic?

People standing in the street for any reason - does not entitle them to death - don't mix issues and don't be so shallow as to blame the spectators simply because it was an illegal street race they were attending. Whether they were watching a parade or an illegal street race makes no difference. If death was the punishment for spectating, I'm sure we could find a suitable crime to apply the same to any of you...

... I am not condoning street racing.
Voyagerfilms

Then phrase your comments intelligently.No one said the illegality of the race absolves the carnage but it should be up held. One does not decide to STAND on a public highway for whatever reason especially when dark and with a knowledge of the it's illegality. This culture of absolving the blameful of it's nemesis should stop! If you step in front of a hoard of charging stallions do we hold the horses responsible...?
Also question the psyche of a family like the one involved in the tragedy- 61yr old grandad, his daughter and gran child. If the car could be proven to be traveling without headlamps on or exceeding the speed limit then charges should be made to bear but in absence of these an acquittal should be in oder.

Build us a track then, and as you might notice its never someone with a nice car that wrecks and kills your family, its someone in a Ford Focus racing someone in a EF Civic Hatchback.