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Bloomberg: "Fraud" behind low Obama vote in New York


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Mayor Bloomberg charged yesterday that "fraud" was behind the unofficial results in the New York Democratic presidential primary that produced zero votes for Barack Obama in some districts.
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15 responses // Bloomberg: "Fraud" behind low Obama vote in New York

  • Let's guess Hill bought that state too! Along side of her 239 superdelegates that dont matter anymore.
    amirct3
  • Where's his proof? If you are going to make accusations like that you should have proof to back it up. I could just as easily say he did it to make Clinton look bad because he doesn't like her... But then, I have no proof so why should anyone believe that? And really.... she is cheating so she loses the last ten? Again, if Bloomberg has proof he should bring it forward. Otherwise, he looks like just another player in this.
    JanforGore
  • What is the possibility that there were no votes for Obama? Zero!

    Come on JanForGore! Let's not get carried away.
    VoyagerFilms
  • So you don't need to see proof of fraud when it's your candidate? And I'm not getting carried away. It's called being rational. Again, if you are going to make an accusation you need proof. If Bloomberg doesn't have proof to show what happened and that it happened because of fraud by the Clinton camp, then it is simply heresay. Isn't that the law? Amazing how peopke want to throw the law out when it doesn't suit them? If it was the other way around, wouldn't you want proof? I'm not in this playing favorites so perhaps I can be more objective. Also didnt; read he was going to do an investigation of this. Would like to see that too then.
    JanforGore
  • Come on. It's impossible to believe that Obama did not earn any votes in Harlem. There needs to be a Federal investigation into this.
    ThinkAbroad
  • well, won't be first fraud in election, remember Florida!

    Quite shameful for a country as US
    alexandrek
  • Gee, Jan, think about it, is it humanly - let along earthly possible that not one single person in New York - with all it's diversity, not one single person voted for Obama?

    Are you being rational? Is that sort of assumption rational since you don't have evidence there wasn't fraud as you pointed out?

    I've been around long enough to know if something doesn't look right - and even if it does look right on the surface, it probably isn't right - particularly in this day and age. Just look how many issues are upside down.

    I'm voting for Obama - not because I'm playing favorites, I've made a considered conscious choice as to whom I will cast my vote. It's not personal for me - so I haven't lost my perspective nor my objectivity.

    I'd say that you jumped in and became defensive - in your first response to this post - on behalf of "your woman" - a little too quickly in my opinion.
    VoyagerFilms
  • Good point (Voyagerfilms), I'm from Hawaii but was in NYC in Jan. I've spoken to a few of my friends that lives in Harlem and actually voted in Harlem, which are also Black Americans. They all told me, for what ever political reason it might have been. They voted Obama.

    With that being said, I don't think the Mayor would put his creditability on the line for something he truly didn't believe in. And it's quite scary that the media hasn't picked this story up... Kind of makes me wary for the up coming election.
    bluepolo21
  • Let Me Say I No About Ten People That Cast There Vote
    So Maybe Those Just Disappeared---oh This is in Harlem ny.
    howell
  • http://www.observer.com/2008/new-york-s-missing-votes excerpt:///////The city’s ongoing review of the primary night results bears this out: In the 94th Election District in Harlem, primary night returns showed Hillary Clinton beating Mr. Obama 141 to 0. Election officials now say the vote was actually 261 to 136. In a Brooklyn district, a review of Mrs. Clinton’s primary-night victory of 118 to 0 is showing the actual numbers to be 118 to 116./////////The Times reports, too, that in a handful of districts, Mrs. Clinton was shown having received zero votes. In other words, both candidates were ill-served by New York’s voting system. Once the city’s returns have been corrected, it’s even possible the delegate count from New York will shift slightly./////////end of excerpt.////////////According to this report in the NY Observer, Hillary Clinton was also cheated out of votes in one district, and also had others that recorded her at zero votes as it did Obama, which was what I had already posted in the first thread about this here. I also mentioned I had spoken to a friend in NY who claimed it might be because some ballots in some districts had the delegates listed separately from the candidates, so in order for the vote to count ( I believe they have lever machines) you had to vote for both the candidate and the delegates. One push of the candidate lever wouldn't cast the votes for both and it may have thrown out the vote for Obama or Clinton if you didn't vote for the delegates as well. Now I don't know if that is true, but considering both of them apparently had some discrepancies it may well have been that. Also according to this report an investigaiton is going on and I hope they find out what the problem is. So Voyager, I did not make my response for "my woman" which you so rudely responded. As I stated, I don't have a horse in this race now, but I do believe in cases like this that you can't go around just accusing someone of vote fraud unless you prove it through an investigation. Which then leads me to this question: Why didn't Bloomberg mention that scenario and not just make this look like some clandestine fraud scheme when he doesn't know it is?
    JanforGore
  • Just because it is our side doesn't mean there wasn't fraud. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck............
    Marilynn_Murray
  • Well, sure.Obama has "won" 11 in a row...
    JanforGore
  • What do you mean?
    Marilynn_Murray
  • Nothing. Just being a bit cheeky based on your response . ;-). As in, anyone can say anything without proof. And that is not to defend Clinton here, but since in this case they were both reportedly jipped out of votes, to use the fraud meme just because you (in general) don't like Clinton is in my view not warranted. If the State of NY investigates and finds fraud, then that is a different story.
    JanforGore
  • .I'm not saying Hillary had anything to do with that. But, I know there is something very wrong with that vote count. Obama spoke in Dallas last night. The very heart of Republican country in Texas to a full house of seventeen thousand. They turned hundreds away. Hillary spoke to a small crowd in a bank parking lot. I'm sorry, I thought Obama would fail miserably in Texas. He's not going to. I intend to support him where I can, and change his mind on things I don't like. We have Al Gore on our side on the environment, can't beat that. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politi...
    Marilynn_Murray

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