Will the 2008 US election be cancelled?
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- uroborus8
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Bush and Cheney have set up the architecture to cancel the election entirely if a state of emergency is declared. Three possible scenarios spun correctly would result in a state of emergency:
"War with Iran - unfortunately, not so far-fetched. The National Intelligence Estimate released in December concluded that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program back in 2003. But when have Bush and Cheney ever based their foreign policy decisions on evidence? Moreover, the most important reason they want to attack Iran is to control the flow of oil through the Persian Gulf, nukes or no nukes.
The assassination of a presidential candidate. Obama evokes memories of JFK and Martin Luther King. The bullet could come from a lone racist, a terrorist, or an agent of a state. The threat is real. The Secret Service knows it and so should we.
A terrorist strike, on the scale of 9/11 or worse. Again, not so far-fetched. Bush and Cheney have been Osama bin Laden’s greatest recruiters, making the U.S. appear to be the enemy of millions across the world. Al Qaeda may consider that regime change in the U.S. is not in their interest."
Harmann urges progressives to "balance hope with a little bit of fear."
"War with Iran - unfortunately, not so far-fetched. The National Intelligence Estimate released in December concluded that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program back in 2003. But when have Bush and Cheney ever based their foreign policy decisions on evidence? Moreover, the most important reason they want to attack Iran is to control the flow of oil through the Persian Gulf, nukes or no nukes.
The assassination of a presidential candidate. Obama evokes memories of JFK and Martin Luther King. The bullet could come from a lone racist, a terrorist, or an agent of a state. The threat is real. The Secret Service knows it and so should we.
A terrorist strike, on the scale of 9/11 or worse. Again, not so far-fetched. Bush and Cheney have been Osama bin Laden’s greatest recruiters, making the U.S. appear to be the enemy of millions across the world. Al Qaeda may consider that regime change in the U.S. is not in their interest."
Harmann urges progressives to "balance hope with a little bit of fear."
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balance hope with fear? what kind of crap is that?
What happened to the only thing we have to fear is fear?
As I stated in another post...it also doesn't hurt to consider the conception of a plan to use "fear" into a vote for mcsame...and by that..i don't just mean mccain. I mean mcsame ol politics controlled by the industrial military complex...ie corporacrats...defense contractors...and the like...
inspires? Dr. Paul inspires...as the only one with a voting record in line with his philosophies against the industrial military complex. -
Ha! I keep telling everyone that politics are controlled by that same fore mentioned military industrial complex.
And with it making a killing...(bad pun) They aren't to happy to have it stop.
Remember: 1984 -
uroborus8, Probably.
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- Marilynn_Murray
- 7 months ago
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you're scaring me, Uroborus8.
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- stephenthomson
- 7 months ago
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I have had nightmares about this happening ever since I read "The Assault on Reason". I really think (or hope) that if they tried to pull this off, everyone, regardless of political party, would rebel. This country has never had a dictatorship and now is certainly not the time to start one!
I have the same worries about Obama being a target like JFK, Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy. He has their chrisma and I think that has a lot of people worried. It seems like the best are always taken way too soon. -
One cannot be ruled by fear...only facts. Live and let live. Obama cannot be ruled or run away by fear. Nor can the rest of us. Damn all of these conspiracy theories. Vote Obama '08.
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So if it happens we stand up and fight back. I think this country would fall apart before we allowed it to be ruled by a dictator. "We have nothing to fear but fear itself".
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Craigers - that's what I'd hope would happen. Too many people are so tired of Bush and Cheney now that I know they'd revolt!
Sentwali - I would certainly hope that Obama would not let fear guide him in anyway. He has no business running for President if that were the case! I'm sure he knows very well what he's facing. I for one am certainly ready for a change! -
The Nazi party told the world (and the German people) Poland was threat and thats why they had to Invade it...
THey claimed that poland Breeched the border!
Notice any similarities?
Our Fearless Redneck Insisted that Iraq had weapons of mass destruciton!!!! so we HAD to invade!...
whats next the dissolution of congress? Not that that would be totally bad, but just thnk, Texas could be the new Burtchesgarden... Heil Bush Heil Chenney.
The Human Race is an intelligent race, But we REFUSE to learn from our past, Pre WW2 thinking of Isolationism has it's good, but if we didnt get involved, the world would be a much different place a very red a nazi place.
What Gave ANYONE the right to carve up the Middle east after the war? We need to keep our noses out of everyones business. Or we're gonna have to fight for our existance either from outside threats, or the more immediate threats like Politicians, They will say anything to get into power, So I HAVE NO i say again NO respect for Chenney or Bush. The offices they hold I DO respect but i think they'd be better off burning those to the ground and build new ones after they leave. cant risk the spread of infection.
I'd be honored to know what Mr. Vice President Al Gore thinks...-
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- bagmosnter420
- 7 months ago
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I think this is a pretty clear idea of what could happend. I mean just a few months ago Carl Rove himself said that by Nov 2008 no one would be talking about the war in Iraq.... pretty weird thing to say during a presidential election.
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- etosha_pent
- 7 months ago
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yes this has been a fairly unnoticed clause of the unpatriot act, but if it happens, we'll take to the streets. do a mussolini on bush and cheney, let the people brutally murder them in the streets, then theyll really know fear.
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hello...wake-up call to the distinguished gentleman from TN who lost the election in 2000
in 2009 i predict we will have an arrangement similar to russia where the new appointee will carry on business as usual from the previous administration.
how loverly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-2CnRuk6Nk&feature=...
mr. x-vp has less than 2 months to rally and mobilize his party in order to avoid such catastrophe....
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A state of emergency, or “Catastrophic emergency”, is loosely defined as “any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions.”
Of course, when would an emergency officially be “over?” I guess the President should make the call on that one, right? -
I think in the literary world that this is either called foreshadowing. If such an event occurs that gives Bush and Cheney an excuse to postpone the election, and it is then later found out that Bush and Cheney "might" have had something to do with it, there will likely be riots.
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- Varex_Sythe
- 7 months ago
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http://current.com/items/88861078_u_s_al_qaida_may_be_planning_attack_on_u_s
Time to be afraid according to the Bush regime... it's an election year afterall! Of course, if the American people had shown some backbone in years past when the judicial coup that put them there took place, we might not be needing to ask these questions. I still can't believe that after eight long years these criminals are still in OUR White House and Congress is still appeasing them, and that includes our presidential "candidates" who think campaigning and raising millions of dollars to sling mud at each other is more important than doing their jobs.-
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- JanforGore
- 7 months ago
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Listen, as much as I dont want it to happen, I think test runs of this senerio are already being tested. With so-called GAFFS in the police protection at rallies in Dallas last week, I think this scenerio is going to be put to the actual test. The thing is, america will just go along with it and in my opinion are so racist, that more are expecting it.
There is no single lone racist, its the racism in general that will kill him, and its that fact that is going to contribute to america being held hostage in this manner. America complained about bush the first time, and elected him again. no matter how "fixed" the election was. Its like losing a football game by 1 point, and the coach saying, it was our team that let them stay close enough to win it, not them just winning. American arrogance, limited anger at the education system in this country, its insistance of racial supremacy and segregation...the latin vote, the old white vote, the black vote...etc..is the reason why bush would be allowed to do this...keep your minds occupied with nonsense and no one will notice when they heard us to slaughter!-
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- okinawanmajik
- 7 months ago
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Let's keep on the FEAR strategy.... It worked so well for the American government, didn't it?
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!! -
You folks remember last year when six armed nuclear missiles were mistakenly or clandestinely flown to LA? They might might have gone missing forever if not for a leak before they were put in place.
Of course this was all happening during the same time a U.S. Joint Forces Command emergency management exercise known as NOBLE RESOLVE 07-2 that simulated terrorism or disaster scenarios in the Lower Columbia River Basin, such as a nuclear weapon being detonated near a major US city(Portland).
Military exercises such as NOBLE RESOLVE 07-2 have a recent history of coinciding with lethal “live” events. This occurred both at the start of Desert Storm in 1990 and on 9/11/01 when five or more major military or security exercises were in progress on the very day of the actual attacks. The same phenomenon occurred with the London Bombings of 7/7/05 during which a drill concerning multiple bomb attacks was being staged on that day. -
well at least michael moores c**k has the salty taste of transparency and logic
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This speculation of Bush and his administration, being a mastermind, brought to us by the same opinion filled people that have ridiculed his intelligence from day one. Put down the bong and pick up a book, you're sounding paranoid.
The best depiction of Michael Moore was presented in South Park. I respect his views and believe some of them, but I have difficulty taking advice on how the country should be run by someone who is a flight of stairs away from a heart attack. Responsibility starts with yourself. -
anarchy!
one word is all i got well, more, this is a crazy article i wish i could say more but im a little straped for time so i just wanna thank you for puttin this here and makin me aware ill blog my awareness-
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- amber_young
- 7 months ago
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Only History will tell (I hope) .
The last eight years have been pretty crazy. I wouldn't doubt that some people (in the administration and even on the streets) would think a "coup" like this would be a good idea. Is the system strong enough to withstand this kind of craziness.
Gitmo
NSA with it's secret room in San Francisco
suspension of Habius Corpus
Kidnapping people off the streets in Europe
10 hour lines for voting in Ohio
Electronic voting machines no records of the votes,
Computer tapes in the garbage....
... Only time will tell.
"Most of the people put up with most things most of the time."
Fear is a great way to manipulate you poor slobs.
They can't get away with it forever, but then "forever is a very long time".
"People out there will follow any president, worship any god accept any iniquity, all out of a kind of hum-drum badness... Not the great loathsomenesses of the great sinners but a kind of mass produced darkness of the soul. Sin you might say without a trace of creativity. They accept evil not because they say yes but because they don't say NO."
Good luck brother perhaps you will avoid the worst this time....-
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- CaptSutter
- 7 months ago
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Liberal Extinction, You voted for the idiot's didnt you?
How many tours have you served in Iraq? I've got 2 under my belt. WHen you get to experience the Madness of all of the WMD's in iraq you can mock us, till then SHUT UP! (shut up meaning DONT MOCK US).
We see through his lies. Lies oh so elequently butcherd by the Redneck pres for texas. You see, ever since he hasnt been living in texas the states (Texas) overall IQ went up 60 points! so go to your republican rally at Nuremburg and leave us alone.-
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- bagmosnter420
- 7 months ago
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Whats with the Micheal moore BS? who cares about micheal moore...where your logic fails is that you assume that everyone has to fall for something. for example, you believe that we that dont believe as you, are somehow influenced by what we say in a mike moore film. why? because most people are influenced by what they have either seen on tv..which is just as skewed as nazi propaganda (perception is reality at work here! and all networks are at fault...cnn, msnbc, fox) and i assume that you people that are all for the idiodicy that is this country, its citizens, its government, and its policies...why? because thats what you have been told, or what has been shown to you on the news.
but where your logic fails is that people can not only be influenced by what they see, or hear, but also by what they do not see, or what actions are actually displayed by those people that you so ernestly want to defend! You think this country and its way is great, i think it is garbage actually. You want to ostrisize those people that actually want to hold people accountable, and you want to attack everyone that actually thinks for themselves. You first team starters on the bush government cheerleading squad, need to "STEP IT UP" seriously! just take a second to look at the plausibility of things. you dont have to believe it in the end, but take into account that things are jacked up! not because I say they are, but because not only do most people say they are, but many people that have no stake in it can see it too. I could care less about mike moore...he is a millionaire...not that thats bad, i will be too one day, but he doesnt live like me. he is an artest with an ax to grind, like oliver stone.
I see things as they are. bush is a war criminal..point blank. Isreal commits more terrorism than hezbollah, hamas, and al Qaeda combined. the us enables them to do so. the us clandestinly commits acts of terrorism in the name of combating terrorism. and this government uses money to bribe the people under the guise of capitalism. (give them money to spend so they wont notice what we are doing to them and the rest of the world.)
you voted for this douche...you believe in what he is doing, and when the roles are reversed, and the us dollar is worthless (or more than it is now) you will hange your tune...whining..."HOW COULD THIS BE!!!") and all that could be said is.....you let this happen.now get out there and cut my grass esse'-
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- okinawanmajik
- 7 months ago
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may i suggest that we all send the link to this thread to each and every one of our state and federal legislators and congresspeople, as well as to every newspaper editor we can get to?
my belief is that, if a fear of this happening is spread widely through the media, anything resembling an actual implementation of such acts would bring down the house of cards of the perpetrators.
sort of like running ads for an expected bank robbery?
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i can't guarantee it won't be attempted,
but I know if he tries something like that I'll march on washington armed come hell or high water....and I know plenty of people of all backgrounds and beliefs would be there with me. -
This would be my (the world's) worst nightmare of all time. I just heard that gas went to $5.00 a gallon. Hail to the Chief !!!!
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if he didnt cancel the election in 04, when he was on the verge of defeat, why would he do it now? yall give him too much credit. hes a neutered dog now, no one takes his shit seriously anymore.
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Hey guys,
It's great to see an item generating discussion, but let's keep the conversation focused on the issue. There's no need to make things personal!
If you're wondering what's acceptable, try checking out our community standards. -
You sound just like the people who you are calling to be killed, American-Facist = Islamo-Fascist, the only difference is you have an undying love for Dubya instead of Allah.
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- rabidlemur
- 7 months ago
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Hate to say I expected to see this article today. This mornings' news stated that a new terrorist threat is very possible. It's bad when your first thought is, so what's our administration up to now? If it goes down - we'll know: to everyone ready to march, fight what have you, I'm there.
Be afraid, be very afraid.-
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- iamforchange
- 7 months ago
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P.S. Those two faces scare me.
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- iamforchange
- 7 months ago
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YOU KNOW I HOPE THEY DO CANCEL IT!
Then maybe it'll light a fire under peoples asses & the US will finally come to believe that the Government is taking more rights away from us than what they already do with the "patriot act".
The U.S. is failing FAST in maintaining it's reputation for being "the land of the free & the home of the brave".
REFUSE THE REAL ID!-
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- alyssajuneski
- 7 months ago
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shit would really have to hit the proverbial fan for them to attempt this... they'd pretty much have to be okay will trying to forcably take over the world in less than 6 months from now... the scary thing is, all of the pieces have been put in place for them to legally do so, and detain or kill anyone who rises up against it. but how many people are going to support them???
thats the only reason i don't think they're actually planning it. You would have to be pure evil to support that cause, so as long as they don't have some emotionless brainwashed robot army in some bunker ready to go by then...(which i somehow wouldn't put past them)...
it must mean that as evil as these guys seem, they're actually just really stupid, and will just go down as the biggest slobs in the history of planet earth. Hopefully Obama is up to the task of cleaning up after them.-
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- scooticery
- 7 months ago
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I have a recent memory of seeing all these t shirts and posters counting down to how many days the US has left to put up with Bush. The memory gives me a sick feeling because then I think back to how the Bush administration weasled their way into power in the first place. If getting him into power had little to do with a democratic voting system then I have little faith in that same system getting rid of him. Not in this day and age. If the people pulling the strings can still use him then Bush isn't going anywhere.
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Keep in mind that during the first few months of the Iraq war Bush's approval rating shot up to 95%. I am encouraged, though by the overwhelming response this thread received during the past 24 hours. I hope, though, that we are not preaching to the choir so to speak. It would be good to spread the word to your less political friends. I urge you to be cautious and rational when you discuss these things. Use facts instead of conjecture and do not incite unnecessary violence. Be strong people, we have more power than we even know.
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Who didn't see this coming? Get out a history book kids- this is how Julius Ceasar, Adolph Hitler, and yes even the Emperor from Star Wars all became Emperors of Free Republics. All hail Emperor Bush.
Seriously, he dodged a legal election with the help of Big Brother Jeb in Florida, then proceded to gut the whole Constitution. Then lied to the UN about make-believe WODs in Iran to get an excuse for his own pocket war.
Number one tip for all wannabe dictators- Stir up a big war. Then wrap yourself in a flag, and start yelling as loud as you can that 'This nation needs to stand united! If you attack me, you're betraying your country!' If you can't say something right, just shout something wrong as loud as you can so no one else can be heard. It's worked all throughout history, ir works here I'm heading for China, compared to a Land run by Bush, that'll be a Democratic Paradise.
