Obama on Dream Ticket

It's another cheap and dirty move by Clinton - stating outright that Obama is not ready to be President then suggesting she'd let him tag along.

A more backhanded 'compliment' I have never heard.

If course the suggestion would make slightly more sense if she was winning. Which she isn't. I suppose currently being third isn't sitting too well with Camp Clinton.
A year ago I totally wanted Clinton for President. My opinion lowers every time I hear her name.

Who will gain? McCain.

Actually, I think she has a point. He is too inexperienced in my mind, regardless of his ideas. Let him spend some time as the right hand man to gain some of that experience, then if he is truly interested in benefitting American rather than just getting himself elected for his own ego gratification, he would have the experience to do some good. My main issue with Obama is he continuously sets himself on a higher moral or ethical ground than Clinton, but truth be told, he wants to be elected president for the same base, ego-driven reason as she does. Anyone who wants to be president is an egomaniac, so he needs to admit it and quit the posturing in order for me to truly believe in him.

The War in Iraq: Clinton voted FOR
Extended executive privileges in violation of the Constitution: Clinton voted FOR
Tax cuts that exclusively benefit the top 1% of income holders: Clinton voted FOR

I could go on, but I ask this....

What difference can 'experience' make in running for office when you have shown a clear tendency to SUPPORT legislation which has actively hurt the nation?
Clinton has actively supported every action that has America in the awful state she now finds herself.

Obama has voted against.

Experience be damned. Choose the candidate who gets it right, first time, and doesn't fuck you sideways to get their own way.

ps. Clinton has also been proven to lie in direct relation to events she claims to have partaken of. Such as the Northern Ireland Peace process.


I am not especially an Obama supporter, but I'd sure as hell take him over if them's the options.

And Obamamania sweeps CURRENT...;-).

nyingma13: I agree with you. I do not believe he has the experience to lead this country right now, and he also broke his promise to the people of Illinois. I also believe he stated he would finish his first Senate term before considering it, and then continued to plan to run for president anyway. I think he is just as much about power and ego as the Clintons and any other politician, and this perception we are being forcefed that he is some agent of change is just rhetoric spun out by Clinton haters in the media and elsewhere because his senate votes and lack thereof prove otherwise. But I guess as usual that isn't important above the 'excitement' and 'media love.'

If you look at this without seeing Clinton and Obama however, you see that the main point to the Democratic party's strategy as with any party is to 'win'. It isn't about anything else, and therefore a ticket with the two candidates on it that apparently now have the most votes together out of all the candidates that either dropped out to make room for them like they were told to, or were pushed out because they gave them too much competition (Like John Edwards and Dennis Kucinich) would logically then "win." No?

And since so many claim their policies are similar which they really are as much as some Obama supporters don't want to admit (especially regarding the war which Obama voted to fund nearly twenty times in 2007 while also voting for Condoleeza Rice, Michael Chertoff and others in this to be confirmed) with Clinton voting for the resolution and both pushing away from definite timelines for withdrawals with Obama's advisors stating he can't make an assessment now until he is "president" and sees what things are like 'on the ground' as if we don't know that already, they already have a kinship in keeping this war going. And both of their healthcare plans are corporate giveaways as they will both "sit at the table" with every special interest that is choking the American people with costs, and another corporate giveaway climate change platform that still bows down to nuclear power, ethanol , and doesn't even begin to address the crisis as it should be.

So, here we have two corporate candidates, one where it is always made public, and one where it is hidden from the public but apparent in policy as well with very similar strategies in principle.

I think they were made for each other and together certainly could beat the Republican terrorism nominee. Of course, much has happened in this week to give the Republicans a lot of ammunition, so while it may in theory look good to 'win' without considering the people or policy (because I don't beleive political parties really care about either anymore) in practice it may not work now... the question is, can they 'win' alone now?

As far as I am concerned, the people should have fought for John Edwards and against the status quo that shoved him and others out instead of just once again accepting what we were left with. But I guess he just didn't fit the bill, even though he has the policy.

I think it's fairly important to point out a fundamental difference in perception and reality:

It is [as far as I can tell] not the case that Obama has swept voters away with his supremely electable excellence.

No.

What has actually happened is that Clinton is driving supporters away in droves. It so happens that Obama is the only other place left to go.

Every nasty little trick, every put down, every mocking statement the Clinton project pulls will continue to push voters to the more positive candidate - which is Obama. America, and the world, is damned sick of the Politics Of Fear And Doubt.

Whether Obama is a better candidate is in many ways irrelevant. He is not asking you to vote for him out of fear, but out of hope. That makes all the difference there can be.

and yes, Edwards - in my opinion - was by a very long way the superior candidate. I feel he will make an excellent President one day.

Maybe it is Edwards who will be offered the VP spot however It is important to remember whoever does must be able to carry a few states on his own.

Perhaps Edwards can do just that.

I was also for Edwards however I wanted someone who could win and win big. My guess is Edwards is simply ahead of his time. That time maybe coming sooner than most might think.

This guy is a joke, I hope he doesn't win..