A Million Iraqi Deaths:the burning question,"Do Americans care about these people?"

I just got done with a week long hunger strike for impeachment! I will be protesting at my State house every week until they listen. THANK YOU for posting this!

sari That's wonderful!
I would like to hear more about that.

Well I took up fasting last Thursday and ended up protesting during the annual budget meetings in my capital. I held a sign that pictured several flag draped coffins with a statement that said "Your Tax $$ Hard At Work" and on the other side it said "IMPEACH NOW!"

Unfortunately there was AWFUL weather during my fast and so I was only able to protest once during it. That's okay though because I made into 2 of my local papers and I plan to do more every week.

John Conyers told a friend of mine who was also fasting that although this administration was guilty of more impeachable offenses than any in the history of the US he still wouldn't push for impeachment because he didn't want to hand McCain the election.

Can you believe that?! The guy won't do his job due to political posturing.

-UGH!!!

I have lost complete faith in my leadership...ALL of it.

-Peace and love!

I've been so busy trying to see over the pile of at least 800,000 American dead due to lack of adequate health care here since Bush was appointed President, that I didn't even notice the other dead bodies piling up over there (so they don't pile up here).

How many people do you think have died over the last seven years that never would have died had Bush never been born...that is, if we added ALL the otherwise unnecessarily dead people together? My guess is several million. If we add the lives that have been devastated but are not all the way dead (yet), I bet we're talking at least a hundred million....and he's not done yet.

Because impeachment is "off the table" even more innocent people will be laid to rest "in the ground". I'm doing what I can, but feel like a Who down in Whoville without a Horton.

right spoon. it is hard to see over our piles of dead bodies. You are right.
Next he may claim the planet Earth if we don't watch out..it is not far off.

One thing is true..he is The Uniter...we are all united against his policies now..almost all of us.

Excellent point, Carolyn. We're lucky he hasn't destroyed the whole ball of wax....yet. He sure has brought the whole thing much closer to an end much faster than possibly any other human being in the history of our planet.

Someone sent me an email of a sign in front of a church (I'm sure you've seen the slogan before) that said, "Will somebody please give him a blow job so we can impeach him?"

I also like the bumper sticker "2008, The End of an Error", even though I think "2008 is Too Late"...but "better late than never" I suppose. (I also like the slogan "Better a Bleeding Heart Than None at All".)

I refer to Bush's policies as PSBW (Parallel Simultaneous Backwards World)...and we're living in it.

It breaks my heart to see such a disgusting act against humanity. Where is the Justice against those who do evil? Where is the World court to bring dictators to justice? Is US immune? I live in the US and I feel these leaders need to pay for what they have done. They have done evil equal to any other evildoers in other countries. I believe we are seeing the beginning of the end of the USA it has revealed it's true nature, it's hypocrisy and it's evil. Now only God will bring it's works upon it's own head. And God will bring upon them what they have brought on others. It is a Biblical prophecy that the whole world will experience Justice by God. What we are seeing is the beginning of the end for this world. I assure you it is coming. Events in this world are proof it is coming. So for all of you who despair about the crimes of humanity rest assured The GOD of JUSTICE will deal a blow that no one can stop. Not even the USA.

umm ok, first of all, jews do not have the monopoly of suffering, and i think its simply...umm "irresponsible" to equate. i could say that the plight of the palestinians and the attrcocities committed by isreal is more in line with a holocaust situation, but im sure you'll disagree.

the topic at hand....ABSOLUTELY NOT!! america doesnt and will never care about the suffering of brown people. We will be up in arms when people dont care about america, but america will almost go out of its way to cause pain to brown peoples.

it all comes from americas superiority issues. We chant USA USA at international sporting events, and at every opportunity, america first looks towards the obvious...race and colour...then anything else.

america massively bombed germany in WWII, and at the time it was highly controversial because they were unloading on White Germans. now the europeans couldnt give a shit about who they killed, but the use of american bombers in usually british missions caused problems in the us ranks.

in japan it was another story....during raids there, regular bombs often were not used except in areas of military importance. incendiary munitions were used over japanese cities because the paper walled houses would burn easier, causeing mass casualties on the civilians. Vietnam....whole villages were destroyed, with little disdain for who was killed...often no one procecuted. iraq much the same thing..and korea as well..many cases of firing into towns when caught in the middle of battles...they just unloaded into the town and got em all.

now, issues in africa....america would never help an African nation...ever (somalia was nothing...more pakistanis were killed in that effort, yet they didnt pussy out and leave right away)

aids is insane...no help. rwanda..nope. darfur...nope liberia (america created the damn place!!!) nope...sierra leone ..nope. the american people would complain and complain to the ends of the earth rather than help brown people....but kill them...oohh yea!

The better question is, when all those Iraqi children grow up and remember how the "occupier" killed their families and led their country into civil war, what are they going to think about us?

That's another question America has to ask. The next two generations are going to be living in a world where oil is going to disappear for good and the Middle East is going to hate our country for taking the last of it. Then what?

People always say we shouldn't pay for the sins of our fathers but that isn't how the world works. "It wasn't me" isn't going to save us.

If there is justice, it must be in the next world. There certainly doesn't seem to be much of it in this one these days.

To oki, I'm not so sure it's the color of skin that matters so much to our current administration as it is the color of money.

spoon. the admin is one thing.....we have to look at the question like this....does the government care, or do the people care?

governments are like corporations...they are humanless entities, run by people...its a machine

the people set the trends for the government to act upon. to make sure they get done. a government doesnt have an opinion, its the people running the government that do. the people shape and mold the actions of the government and its decisions.

if american people dont care about brown people, what makes you think the government will? to be honest, your comment would be best applied towards latin american countries. they have darker and lighter people issues because of the slave trade too, but they are more beyond it than here. in latin amerc. countries, if you are broke, you dont exist! you are crap. whats funny is you get a mexican kat in say la puente california in the hood. that kat wins some money...guess what....fuck the barrio, im out,..and my family. screw everyone else. that person could open a business to try to empower the community..as well as make more for himself, but usually its nothing. black people are the same way, but not as much so. we just end up buying stupid shit and going back to the hood to show off! often getting jacked or labelled a sellout!

america does look at race because it gives americans the chance to dehumanise them. what was crazy was after 9-11..BLACK PEOPLE SAID IT WAS OK TO RACIALLY PROFILE ARABS! WTF IS THAT?

I think it's rampant xenophobia.

US citizens that have no problems at all with fellow US citizens of other races are the same ones saying -- no, demanding! -- that "those people" die!

How we treat the "detainees" at GitMo is a clear example of how we value the lives of "others."

If any one of "our people" we held in identical GitMo-like conditions in China or Mexico we'd all be screaming bloody murder.

If one of our soliders was captured in China, held in an open air cage, chained to the floor, and held without charges for, oh, a decade and then was pronounced "Guilty!" without ever seeing any of the alleged "evidence" used to convict him -- holy shit! We'd all but drop nukes on China in outrage. And what if China used "aggressive interogation techniques" on our soliders? What if China captured 100 Marines and then reclassified them as "detainees" and therefore they were not protected under the Geneva Convention? Would we think that was cool? Would we say, "Sounds resonable"?

Bush expects "his people" to be treated to the highest standards (well, unless he decides their enemies under the Patriot Act)

But a brown skinned non-Christian foreigner from a POOR country?

It's okay to treat "those people" like animals.

Bush's xenophobia and meglomania are so over the top that if this had been an SNL skit in 1996 none of us would believe it. Surely we'd never let such an over-the-top nutjob get away with it. And yet he won two terms (or rather the machines he provided us to vote on recorded that he won)

What's disturbing is that it's not just the xenophobic holy-roller from Texas (Bush) that views poor non-white, non-Christians this way --- a significant number of people here in the US seem to (consciously or unconsciously) feel that way to.

This weird (almost unconscious) double standard blows my mind. All men are created equal....except those poor no-Christian Iraqi's. Those people we can kill cause, you know, they don't really count.

exactly!!! my point exactly!

Dick Cheney's reply would be, "SO?"

I don't think they care what we the people think (and they're in charge, not us). As I said before, we are the Who's down in Whoville without a Horton. We're all doing what we can. People are people everywhere. Most just want to work hard, do well by their family and right by their friends, not hurt anybody...and they're all pretty busy just trying to keep up with that much.

I'm an American who gives a shit.....

We need a 2nd Civil Rights movement.

In the 1960's we were able to get America (and the government) to acknowledge that it's not "okay" to treat African-Americans by a different standard than white Americans.

Now it seems we need to do it again so we can re-educated the Bushies that just because someone is from a different country (even a poor country!) that does not mean we can treat them worse than we would treat ourselves.

"But look at them," the Bushies will protest. "They are not white. Their country is obviously poorer and weaker than ours. And they aren't christians!"

Doesn't matter.

If it's unacceptable to treat a US citizen that way, then it must be equally unacceptable to treat ANYONE that way regardless of race, religion, nation of origin, or how big or little their national GNP is.

I give a shit, and think most of us do. I'm saying our leaders aren't listening, and they're misleading our people. I also hear and agree with the points crob and oki are making. I know they are legitimate and didn't mean to leave that part out.

At the same time I know we have a half-black man and a woman running for president (with overwhelming support of most "progressives") who both support continued legal sanctioning of discrimination against sick people for money. (No "community rating" for us!).

Go figure.

but that has nothing to do with changing american peoples minds. it does alittle. look at it this way. if a black man has many of the attributes that white americans find similar to them, then they can accept a black man as president....but the overwhelming thought would be..."LETS JUST NOT LET THIS GET OUTTA HAND!"

like immigration. a mexican here or there is nothing...get too many and white people are like OOHH HELL NAW!! all because they cant understand them. people speaking another language makes most people feel stupid..when they cant be nosey!

The irony of hypocracy is dripping off of what you just said. You can edit it if you wish. People can and do discriminate against other people for all sorts of reasons (sickness, age, religion, nationality, poverty, color... or lack of color... of skin, etc.). Apparently you're not immune either...even if you also have some good points that need to be heard.

okinawanmajik -- I kind of agree, but then again sometimes self-selection is just natural and shouldn't necessarily be lumped in with racism or xenophobia (though in Bush's case it clearly, clearly is xenophobic)

If there are only 25 black students fromt he same neigborhood attending an all-white school in a different neighborhood, it would be kind of natural that they would all hang together. That's not necessarily racism.

What about poverty?

If we have 50 kids all from the same dirt poor neighborhood were attending a ultra-rich private school -- would they tend to group together regardless of race? Sometimes people migrate to shared cultures and distance themselves from unfamilair cultures. Feeling more comfortable (more or less) in one culture over another is normal -- but hating a culture, as Bush does, is different.

I think a lot of it might just be cultural and it runs both ways. Poor Mexican immigrants that come to the US have different cultures than the white suburban kids for the most part. If you grew up on a quiet farm (or something) and suddenly you're living in an aprtment complex with 100 Mexicans and they think it's normal to just hang out in the parking lot, grilling, drinking, laughing loudly and playing the radio loud -- and you find that annoying -- is that really racism or is that just a cultural perference?

But what Bush is doing is clearly and unapologetically xenophonbic/racsist. Not feeling comfortable (or not enjoying) a unfamilair/different culture is understandable and just a personal perference -- but what Bush has done is legalize a bizzare set of neo-segregation policies. He has legally redefined the Iraqi people as "inferior" and exempt from the same legal and civil rights that our Constition and Bill of Rights say should be granted to all people. Now obviously I wouldn't go so far as to grant the POW's at GitMo identical legal rights of US citizens -- but I do think they should be treated to the exact same legal standard and housed in identical conditions that we would demand for our own soliders.

We helped Iraq write a Constitution that guarantees the right to health care for all Iraqis. That's one very important right that Americans do not have.

Good point!

Why did you change the title? (giggles)

Great post btw

how is that hypocritical? 50 black kids sitting together wouldnt be racist. (also, people need to know what racism is when they use it...racism and bigotry, although are similar, are different.) what you are saying is more on the line of bigotry or prejudice. but no its neither. its probably survival. 25 black students in an all white school. they probably wanna survive. they are more likely to get beat up, than 25 white students in an all black school. (of course you will argue that...but its true)

im interested in knowing what is so hypocritical about what i said? americans do things so unnaturally ignorant that its amazing. even I dont get it. people run away from what will improve their lives to hold onto those stupid things that limit them. i dont get it. being a black professional, i might understand more than most. of course women will have a different perspective thats equally relevant. but if there is an atheist person that has the best idea and will improve my life...im all in for him. most of america will not. if there was a muslim person of the same thing...im cool with it....most of a america will not. white woman, black man, asian crossdresser...i dont care, if that person improves my life, inspires me to improve myself, or makes the barriers to success less, then im all in for their weird ass!

america would rather say...i dont want no (blankidy blank blank) running around takin' all our jobs...tryin' to sex our women..and blah blah blah .... or i dont wann ahelp them damn sand n----gers because then they are gona wanna come here and live next door to me. americans have the cliche' idea of hotel owners being indian...why, because a lot of indians move here, and open hotels....good for them. and small convience stores. why? BECAUSE THEY ARE EASY TO OPEN!!!!! americans would rather bitch about the fact that they cant get a job at that hotel...well its a family business! they have all the positions filled....by family members. but the average american only remembers that INDIANS COME HERE AND WONT HIRE GOOD CHRISTIAN WHITE FOLKS.. hell even some black people say the same things. (for some reason most black people here seem to think that we are thought of as being a part of this country...as opposed to being looked at as an immigrant group, that wasnt...because we are classed as a hyphenated american )

when americans whom think that they were shunned, they start to have that attitude towards that group, and then it centralizes its self and that feeling then projects its self around the world.

for example. and i keep getting my comments removed by the powers that be, when i talk aboout older people ....so ill say this. americans will always be able to fight asian brown people and not wanna help them because of pearl harbor. and what the older generation feels about asians in general. korea didnt help. vietnam didnt help. so now, americans wont want to help that part of the brown world.
the united states started the iranian issue when it didnt want to give back the shah, then he died and iran took hostages. americans were too stupid to remember why they took the hostages, just that they did. so now, all americans look at arabs ( which iranians are not arabs they are persians, im sure an iranians dude is reading this saying THANK YOU!!) but americans look at all brown middle eastern people as iranian and say fuck em!

in africa...most recently somali warlords pwned the us special forces in mogadishu. after than american are like screw going into africa to help them black ..brown people...we are out...then slavery issues also come about. because white americans see american black people. then they are like...why dont they help their people, why do we have to...um you wre our people, as much as you want to dissagree.

""but americans look at all brown middle eastern people as iranian and say fuck em! ""

No they don't, small minded people say that, stop acting like all Americans are evil, its insulting and it is not true, its a blanket statement just like Bush saying "it's in the best interest of the world to be in Iraq/Iran/"insert oil rich nation here"

Maybe the reason your getting your comments removed is because you are spouting nonsensical racism?

Iraq is nothing more than a symbolic enterprise - it's the lit up centerpiece for Bush's self-indulgent display of "moral superiority " via "nation building " . whenever Bush ends a state of the union speech he says "god bless america" - which means " my god blesses me , and whatever i do is cool with him " - i've been a substitute teacher to kids from kindergarden up to high school , and no more than %10 could even point out Iraq on a map . "racism " isn't even an issue - from my experience , the majority of americans don't even know what an Iraqi is - and they couldn't even tell you what a "terrorist" is beyond saying it's some person whose not sucking Bush's cock .

hahaha!! malathion are you still a teacher?

One million dead means millions more in mourning. This is truly a sad, sad situation. One US soldier lost for every 249.8 Iraqis. Can you say overkill?

It is sad that even other countries who are less "Amero-centric" still only report American deaths when they release statistics about casualties in the war! Are Iraqi lives literally not worth as much to the West??

We have to prove to the world that we can and will prosecute our war criminals...no matter what positions of power they hold. Everyone who played a role in this war must pay. "The whole world's watching."

At least 101,000 innocent, involuntary Americans will die easily preventable deaths this year alone due to the insatiable greed of the American health insurance industry (and we'll let them divert $350 billion of our health care dollars to do it). I would say we do not care for our own any more than we care for citizens of other nations.

Spoon you nailed it on the head. This isn't about American imperialism but rather CORPORATE imperialism. No person is worth more than another here...we're all just a paycheck to them. We are slaves to their financial control and they try to keep us asleep by keeping each of us in debt high enough to divert our attention from the obscene gestures of this administration. Make no mistake about it though...this isn't just Bush at work...this is the Corporate US at work and it's been going on far longer than this admin.

Yes, it's the private Fraternity that some call Illuminati: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

Aka Skull & Bones: http://www.bilderberg.org/skulbone.htm

Iraq is EXACTLY how they want it, unstable, and uncontrollable. Americans don't want this (except maybe the fringe Bible Belt nut jobs).

"Let us not let the world call The United States of America indifferent to human suffering and have to wonder if it is true."

Sorry but that's already a world view.