Evidence THERMATE explosions in WTC towers and the coverup that followed.

How many other buildings of this size have collapsed?

From airplane impact? ZERO.

How many buildings that are as tall as the world trade center were have been destroyed, what was the cause of their destruction, and is there any footage of these collapses?

There have been many huge buildings destroyed, footage of detonations that are similar or EXACTLY the same is on the AE Truth website. You should browse through it. Crazy stuff.

The lengths those evil bastards will go to for world domination.....

Have you seen ZEITGEIST?

www.zeitgeistmovie.com

Plusaf:

BULLSHIT.

First of all, Thermate and Thermite are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. Read up.

Second, those links are mostly derived from non-scholarly sources, (opinion pieces/paid bullshit articles from Corporate sources) whereas the evidence I've submitted is from a group of almost 300 Engineers, Architects and Physicists.

Either way, the building fell in a PERFECT footprint, AND do you know it only takes SECONDS for NORAD to scramble fighter jets in an emergency or "attack" situation?

Why didn't it happen 5 different times on Sept 11?

Why did WTC7 fall at 5pm ish? It was NOT hit by a plane and NO, steel doesn't burn up from normal fire.

Anyway, I'm not mad at you dude.

You have more info to the latter because big media is much better at getting MEDIA sources out there then the non-owners, the people that care that the truth be told...

Inside job.

Who's job? Not sure. Maybe Saudi work, maybe the Bush maniacs, maybe the Bilderbergers, the Rothschilds, maybe it was all of them together in some sick sadistic catastrofuck.

Regardless, the "islamofascists" should and would NEVER be able to fly planes into the fucking Pentagon/WTC etc with box cutters dude.

How far fetched does that really sound?

Seriously?

Plusaf:
First off, I never said or thought that "they" (whoever "they" are) were "trying to do the most damage...".
I think in fact they did EXACTLY the damage they intended.
And as for hitting the towers "lower" ????
Seriously? That's your argument???
THEY WERE JUMBO JETS MAN!
(Flying them lower AND striking the buildings at the speed they fly IS impossible, plus, that's SUCH a lame theory.)

I only question 9/11 because I DON'T trust politicians, especially an administration that lied us into war, & has a questionable way in which they came into office in the first place.

Run that through your sheepole blender...

And "they got flight training" HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHA!

They all FAILED to even be able to land a Cessna. (Look it up). To execute the kind of turn and accuracy it took at that speed to hit all 3 of the buildings? A hit like any of those would have been hard for even the best, most experienced pilots in the world (and some of those very pilots have said so).

As far a jerk holding a box cutter to my neck, come on! So I get a nick in my neck if I tackle the dude? DONE. A box cutter would sway very few people with enough adrenaline away from helping a whole jet full of 180 plus people I think, unless you're a coward, which I don't consider myself...

Either way, we may never know what really happened, it's just something that will have to keep being looked at until someone blows a whistle I think.

Same with JFK, MLK etc...

I'm not going to argue with you anymore but I WILL gladly read what you have to say and respond.

Sorry if I got a little heated...

onechance: What baffles me is that there are other buildings around WTC 7. Why didn't any of them fall due to the impact? I tend to agree that there is more to its implosion than we are being told.

Yes and what about WTC 7? How did THAT steel structure building fall at about 5 pm that evening when NO plane hit it?

http://wtc7.net/

I was just talking about this today with a friend. Believe me many agree with you and I. We are being LIED to. I used to work down in that area and actually had to go into WTC 7 once. The security there was like Fort Knox. There is also word that there was a CIA office in that building. If true it could shed some light on why it fell.

plusaf, I understand that it is difficult and painful to accept that you've been lied to by your present government, but cold and hard scientific facts demonstrate beyond a scintilla of doubt that these buildings could only fall the way they did through demolition charges. Here is a link to a website you might consider exploring: http://patriotsquestion911.com/

Oh and Plusaf:

"so, you can keep fighting that battle, and the other 39% of the people in the US who'd agree with you"

Well, of the 5 people here, it appears that 80% of us are at least willing to learn more, and haven't drunk the 9/11 government koolaid.

Please, also put that in your minority blender.

Among many similar sites, debunking911.com and Popular Mechanics (whose 9/11 propaganda section is or was run by one of Michael Chertoff's cousins, no less) have been thoroughly debunked and discredited by fully qualified professors and other experts, plusaf.

plusaf, just a remark or two - for the amount of steel in the towers to soften, it would have required many times more the amount of fuel, and a fuel that burns at much higher temperatures than does kerosene - and most of the kerosene in both towers was burnt outside of the towers, and the rest burned practically instantly. Moreover, the amount of heat needed to soften that amount of steel would have burnt all people inside to cinders long before the towers collapsed - yet there were people alive in the towers up until the moment they collapsed.

The explosion four stories below (before the building began to collapse) was to ensure that the building would collapse in its footprint, and the demolition began from the top because of the dimensions and proportions of the building, to ensure it would not topple over.

Furthermore, a number of witnesses who were inside the towers reported that they heard a series of explosions going bang bang bang bang as the towers began to collapse.

Your Galileo analogy is a false analogy.

No wonder you didn't stay long on the patriotsquestion911 website - you can't handle the truth coming from hundreds of people who are obviously infinitely better qualified than yourself.

plusaf, I have not proffered a single conspiracy theory, I have merely pointed at the vast holes in the official (and totally zany) conspiracy theory to which you obviously desperately adhere, your string of strawman fallacies and mockeries notwithsdanding.

"The use of 'Conspiracy Theory' as a derogatory term or epithet, is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades. It is a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent, and other points of view and information that might be inconvenient for a policy agenda." --Chris Sanders, Political Economist, Sanders Research Assoc.

You can't "same to you" me since I posted no strawman fallacies nor mockeries, plusaf.

Vierotchka: Thank you. I am so sick of the label conspiracy theorist being pushed on someone everytime they ask a quesion in an attempt to minimize the importance of the question and shut down the conversation. Any American who loves this country must ask questions regarding the government's story about ANY event.

I for one do not trust one bit the "official" story regarding WTC 7, and I am having a hard time believing how the other buildings came down at this point. If you look at videos, and granted you have to look closer, it does look like charges or sparks coming off on certain floors before they fall...Now, whether those are charges going off or electrical wiring failing, etc., is questionable.... and that is the point.There are still questions that need to be answered. I am not just going to take the whitewash 9.11 commission's words as truth. I believe that would make me remiss as an American citizen to do so.

This government no longer fears the people. When you have a government that fears the people you have a Democracy... when you have a people who fear their government you have what we have now, and it sure ain't Democracy. The sad thing is I doubt that even Obama or Clinton will go into this any further, but that doesn't mean we can't demand them to.

Thanks JanforGore... VERY well put.

And Plusaf, you still haven't typed a single word about my biggest question, one that hasn't had an ounce of explanation (that I'm aware of) other than, "it came down from heat and damage from the planes that hit the OTHER wtc buildings...

WHAT'S YOUR BIG ANSWER ABOUT WTC 7 Plu?
Is EVERY building "not insulated"?

Even the documentaries I've seen that try to wrap the "9-11 report" in a bow and call it the Gospel still say that the 2 towers WERE built to withstand airliner impact... So, why didn't they if you are right (or if the "official" story is right?)

Where's your name calling about that one going to begin... Let's see, at the first or will that be the second word...

You see Plu, people that want the truth just want THE TRUTH. Not some crappy "report" that even the highest up question themselves...

You don't know the truth, and neither do I. That's something I hope you can at least think about, if not agree upon or are you so far "down the rabbit hole" of coverup that you won't even demand the truth?

you can add one more to the 'conspiracy theorists' side. (but i think those cheesy videos harm our arguments.)

catastrofuck...best word ever.

I never said anything about the steel melting - you've gone and done another strawman! LOL!

There were some 300,000 tons of steel, thus 150,000 per tower - the amount of heat needed to soften that amount of steel so that it would bend is so great that mere kerosene from one airplane (which burnt outside of the towers for the most part, and very quickly) couldn't get anywhere close to producing enough heat for long enough for that. The amount of heat necessary would have also burnt all the people inside the towers to cinders, and very quickly, too, yet most of the people inside the towers were alive up until the moment the towers collapsed.

I understand your desperate need to believe the official conspiracy theory (the zaniest of all the conspiracy theories ever), though.

There was a US Secret Service office and arsenal located below the WTC. The US Secret Service is the enforcement branch of the US Treasury Department and is tasked with investigating and taking down treasury fraud ( i.e.-counterfeiting rings) as well as their Presidential protective duties. Any arsenal dedicated to the Service's tactical operations would have undoubtedly contained thermate as a "breaching" compound used to blow through steel doors and structures to gain entry to hardened premises secured by criminal elements during raids.

I remember there were also large amounts of small arms ammunition in the same arsenal that "cooked off" in the fires resulting from the collapse for a long period of time afterward. Many emergency responders risked their lives in those days crossing over this exploding ammunition which could be heard popping off during footage of rescue baskets filled with search dogs and SAR personnel crossing the pits to search for survivors.

if you want to know how molten metal can form in what basically became a furnace anyway find out more about steel smelting, all it takes is a sustainment of fuel and oxygen. The steel industry melts it all the time and they don't even need jet fuel. The Persians forged great steel blades using a forge built into a hillside and the prevailing winds to heat the fires.

I don't love the govt. I do love a well researched theory though. Food for thought