Bill Maher talks truth about the Democratic race
- added April 5, 2008
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- JanforGore
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Bill Maher's New Rules segment last night and his words on the Democratic primary race and the Internet in general were right on. I think some need to take a chill pill about this primary. Besides, it's only to crown the next successor to the military/ industrial complex. People don't really vote for a 'president' in this country anymore. It's the CEO of America INC.
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- JanforGore
- 3 months ago
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JanForGore, I think this country has a long way to go before we can elect a president again. First, the MSM either needs to get honest, or get going, because they corrupt our elections.
Second, like Al Gore said in "The Assault On Reason" we need to start debating again and interacting ideas. We need to get our kids educated and get them to understand why it's important to vote.
It's a long shot, but hey, we can do anything, right? -
That's right, and why it isn't going to happen this November either. They are all bought and sold to some degree. It is the way of politics.To play the game it requires a bit of your soul... for some the entire soul and the heart.
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- JanforGore
- 3 months ago
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When did Bill Mahar start reporting the "fake news?" who is writing these gags anyway? I respect Bill Mahar and I supported him for asking tough questions after 9/11 when no one else was, but these antics are more suited for SNL, Talk Soup or Howard Stern. I'm waiting for him to REALLY talk thruth!
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- celestialceiling
- 3 months ago
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God bless Bill Maher! This is GENIUS!!
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- woodywoodbeck
- 3 months ago
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New Rule: Bill Maher is wrong.
Why is the protracted democrat race bad?
Because the race is not "close," Bill, it's over. The longer it goes, the more money Obama has to spend against her and not against McCain.-
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- BurningBush
- 3 months ago
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I can understand Bill's point, and I will vote for the Democrats either way, but my concern is for the people that are torn between the parties. If Hilary gets the nomination, the Republican Slime Machine--as Bill Maher calls them--will rip her to pieces and she will most likely pull some self-destructive act in the end.
Obama on the other hand, has really been able to look past all of the negative press and the shenanigans of politics--and he wants something that most American's want--unity. And of course he doesn't carry nearly as much baggage as the Clinton's do.-
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- mariposablanca
- 3 months ago
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It's nice to see a glimmer of hope for Bill Maher. His unflagging support of all-talk-barack made his show a bore for many weeks, and he was just not funny at all. It appears that he is realizing that half his audience supports Hillary and he is losing them to his prejudicial remarks favoring Obama.
No matter who wins the primarys after all is said and done and the super delegates determine who can win the big states--(Hillary)--we all must come together in November to put her in the White House. Otherwise it is 4 years of McBush and the country can't survive that horror.
Seriously Obamaniacs, he isn't ready for prime time. It's not enough to be black and give good speeches. You have to be able to deal with the world and the GopPigs. We all know he is not the guy to handle such responsibility and she is. And maybe even Bill Maher knows that now. -
quit calling me a fucking maniac, or else.
I'm getting tired of you, disrespectful, condescending people.
Obama supporters are not fanatics, nor maniacs. -
Great clip
Clinton/Obama 08
It's the right answer -
This was funny Jan but look where at it again being pompous on this very thread where Bill M told us to knock it off.
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- DivinePerspective
- 3 months ago
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Gotta love Bill Maher! Absolutely dead on right about the democrats. And no, they are definitely not the answer or saving grace to Bush's failures. Why? Easy..Democrats and Republicans are on the same agenda..it's called the New World Order. Wake up America! End the 2 party system, before the system ends you.
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- BobtheEnforcer
- 3 months ago
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Burning Bush: So you don't think all Americans should have a voice in these primaries?
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- JanforGore
- 3 months ago
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No I don't! They are rigged to produce the most popular candidate to serve as the next NWO puppet and that's the God loving truth and I don't care who believes it. Democrats are no different than Republicans they promote the same agenda.
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- BobtheEnforcer
- 3 months ago
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The Clintons are just a different head to the same Hydra that Bush is a part of. Same special interests, different approach.
As far as the primaries go, I still cannot fathom why they don't hold them all on the same day. Could it be that "they" want the opportunity to smear candidates "they" don't want in the White House?
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- AceHardchester
- 3 months ago
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I often agree with Bill Maher. this time too. chill. let both Hillary and Obama have their run. and let's try (as registered democrats) not to shoot ourselves in the foot showing inane division within our own party.
it's okay to be democratic about the fact that we have two strong contenders...too bad a few more of our strong contenders had to leave the ring so early anybody remember Tom Vilsack? I surely do.
I dream big: I'd like to see our entire selection and election process redone
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Bill Maher.
Raising smarmy to a new level for the sake of the joke. -
You're right Ace, I wish these brainwashed democrats would realize that they are not the answer to Bush's failure.
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- BobtheEnforcer
- 3 months ago
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New Rule: Never miss an episode of Maher's "New Rules!"
Or as Bush might say, "it'll put some humor on your soul. Heh heh" -
Oh, my God. I just realized, I'm a pompous blowhard in a vast circle jerk of pompousity.
GObama 08! I'm a maniac and damn proud of it! -
lol. ya know. I try not to wear shoes that don't fit. everybody's got opinions but only some of the opinions actually apply in any single case. ;-)
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I don't understand why Obama supporters think he is honest.
He lies to voters in Iowa about passing his senate bill to protect children and citizens from radioactive contamination when he gutted it to suit nuclear energy execs and let it die on the senate floor.
If he could lie about such an important issue with children with brain cancer at stake, what else is Obama not honest about?
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I think he really likes himself.
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- katharinekov
- 3 months ago
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Bill tells it like it is - love the New Rules.
Obamaniacs unite! Somebody up there needs a Prozac patch. I'm still 'undecided - probably still will be long after the election. -
BARACK OBAMA: CAREER PROFILE (SINCE 1989)
Top Contributors
1 Goldman Sachs $535,678
2 JPMorgan Chase & Co $346,137
3 University of Chicago $317,881
4 UBS AG $315,930
5 Kirkland & Ellis $307,264
6 Exelon Corp $301,511
7 Sidley Austin LLP $289,057
8 Lehman Brothers $288,197
9 Skadden, Arps et al $287,241
10 Citigroup Inc $281,036
11 Harvard University $272,791
12 National Amusements Inc $272,550
13 University of California $251,194
14 Jenner & Block $215,657
15 Jones Day $212,525
16 Morgan Stanley $212,276
17 Time Warner $212,141
18 Google Inc $201,107
19 Mayer Brown $196,583
20 Credit Suisse Group $173,300
Percent of Contributions Coded:
(How to read this chart / methodology)
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$76,308,351
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$29,729,446
(28%)
Total $106,037,797 -
Now now, we don't call the election before all the votes are counted, that's the Supreme Court's job. Classic.
Bush is a great bowler, his specialty is the pre-emptive strike. Burn! -
ocanada: I usually don't watch his show, but I caught this the other night while channel surfing and thought it was right on. Especially the line about the Supreme Court.
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- JanforGore
- 3 months ago
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JanforGore
Yes, I think all Americans should have their voice in the primaries, like they always have. But the majority of Americans have had their voice and its time for the democrats to come together.
Let's face reality -- there is no way that Hillary can win this. When will she face up to this? Once she loses Indiana, I hope.
Four years ago democrats came together for Kerry and got a head start on bolstering his campaign. This helped him tremendously (too bad he was such a weak candidate).
Check it out:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0412-04.htm-
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- BurningBush
- 3 months ago
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BurningBush. Bill Maher's point is you can easily turn that around and be just as accurate.
Say, "Let's face reality -- there is no way that Obama can win this. When will he face up to this? Once he loses Pennsylvania, I hope."
Barack Obama can't win on the delegate count alone at this point, anymore than Hillary can.
Why does it take Bill Maher to point that Barack has to depend on the super delegates to throw the race his way out to a media that wants the voters to think that it's only Hillary who depends on the super delegates and want Americans to think the race is already over?
Barack Obama can only win now with the delegate count if Hillary quits.
Why should she? Almost half of the democrats who've already voted picked Hillary. There are still 10 states left to vote, some pivotal, like Pennsylvania, and two states, Florida and Michigan have yet to be counted.
Pennsylvania will be the first big democratic primary since revelations about Barack Obama's record like his telling voters in Iowa he had passed a Senate bill regulating nuclear plants to report radiative substances into the air and water to protect Americans when, in fact, he gutted the bill to please his donors in the nuclear industry and let it die on the Senate floor, his several conflicting versions of the number of years he was part of Reverend Wright's church, his failure to speak out against the negative tenor of his pastor's and spiritual advisor's sermons over a 13, or, 17, or 20 year period, and his association with questionable business interests in Chicago like Rezko,to mention only a few issues that are worrying Democratic voters.
Right now, it is a statistical a tie, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are only 143 delegates apart from the states in which primaries have already been held. And if you count the superdelegates with Hillary's current lead in pledged superdelegates, she is ahead and wins.
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I don't think she will loose Indiana, her ties are deep and we are an easy state to predict. If she looses us she will withdraw undoubtedly but I doubt she will loose. She has campaignes along with Bill and Chelsea here in fact Bill has visited almost ten times, and has even been to more college campuses than Obama. He has even given the comencement speaches at more than one. Hillary was in charge of the Carter campaign in Indiana in 1976 and has long relationships with each party leader here. The only significant endorsements obama has recieved in Indiana are from Lee Hamilton of the 9/11 commison and Baker Hamilton report, and two former congressmen. Evan Bayh is her presumptive Veep nominee and her campaign cochair and for the moment Cheif surrogate after Bill. Many democrats here are moderate and sadly few in number as Indiana has only voted democrat nationaly three times this century. Three times voting against favorite sons in the Presidency or Vice Presidency in national elections for the democratic party. I am however heartened by the fact that my vote counts for once! you have no idea how stifling it is to know the results of an election before it is held. However the race is close, with surrogates like Ethel Kennedy and RFK Jr. working for opposite sides of the campaign. Obama has more volunteers and has raised more money than her in this state and almost four times the amount from the McCain and more than all of the republican candidates combined.
I am not worried about Rezko or Reverand wright. The Chicago tribune ran an article where Barack was honest about both relationships. Saying ask anything you like, and not shying away form tough questions. I agreed with their assesment that they couldn't recall a simmilar political dialogue. I think that much of this political cylce is about generational differentials and I am glad to see my generation active and influential. It has been inspiring and it has made me beleive a new political dialogue is possible. Perhaps that means as pepole have said in the past that the nomination process should be overhauled, should be more democratic. As Bill put it "if you are worried about votes between two popular democratic candidates you aren't very democratic are you?" Thanks for posting this, I got a real kick out of it. -
My dream ticket for the Dem's is Bill Maher with Steven Clobert as his vice!
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- rigellianaire
- 3 months ago
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Bill Maher is my fav!
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rigellianaire, that would be an awesome ticket. Even better if they ran as Independents.
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- BobtheEnforcer
- 3 months ago
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If Obama does not win the nomination....
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- stephenthomson
- 3 months ago
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"pompous blowhard in a vast circle jerk of pompousity..." That's sums up everyone who uses the internet eh Bill? Not too discriminatory are you? Speaking of pompous blowhards, have you ever watched your own show dude? Guys like you use comedy as a soapbox to remove yourself from accountabilty 'hey folks it was just a joke, take a pill!' Meanwhile your so-called comedy destroys the impact of serious issues. 'Hey America go back to sleep, don't worry about anything, its all just a big f**king joke!'
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My dream ticket is Hillary Clinton for President and Congressman John Lewis for Vice-President.
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...there will be a lot of angry people.
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- stephenthomson
- 3 months ago
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We aren't looking for a cruise ship entertainer, but perhaps a serious looking America media entertainer. Because that is what we have become, right?
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- jdchristianson
- 3 months ago
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Candidate Delegates Super delegates Total
Obama 1482 227 1709
Clinton 1432 260 1692
Edwards 31 -- 31
Uncomm. 55 -- 55
Undeclared 0 361 361
Updated 4/6/2008
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-l...
10 more states to hold primaries
2 states - Florida and Michigan still to be counted -
Touchart: first off there have been no controbutions to Oboma's campain during this primary other than individual donations totaling no more than the maximum a private individual is alowed under law from individual citizens who happen to also be involved in a corporation as a CEO or other leadeing member. Second Obama is leading in the popular and the pleadge deligate count and failing land slide victorys for Hillary in all of the remaining states this lead will endure. So, no, Senator Obama does not need the super deligates to give him the election he need them to respect the will of the MAJORITY of the Democratic Party. Senator Clinton on the other hand short of the popular and or Pledge Delegate turn around would indeed be asking the Super Delegates to overturn the will of the MAJORITY of the Democatic Partys members. Any discusion of overturning the peoples choice of nominee based on how viable they are in a national election (particularly when based on any poling) is probly the most undemocratic thing i can think of.
Last but not least stop this maniac BS it realy degrading and insulting i and all the other people i know who are or have voted fr obama in primarys are doing
