Genetically modified foods. Are they safe?
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Just in case you thought it was fine to eat Genetically Modified foods (better identified as “FrankenFoods”), along comes a study which makes it clear that you are eating this make believe non-food at your own peril and, worse yet, you are feeding it to your kids at their peril as well. It is important to note that Codex Alimentarius, which sets standards for the international trade of food, permits genetically modified foods and makes no effort to limit, control or eliminate them. In fact, the US has been trying for years to prevent the labeling of GM foods and seed in international trade to emulate its domestic policy which prohibits any label indication that foods contain GM ingredients, as 75-80% of all foods sold in the US do.
Now it appears that the increasingly prevalent nightmare of a disease called “Morgellon’s Disease” may be a result of GM crops and food.
Now it appears that the increasingly prevalent nightmare of a disease called “Morgellon’s Disease” may be a result of GM crops and food.
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- Marilynn_Murray
- 4 months ago
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We can thank Monsanto for the poison they call "food". Write them and tell them you disapprove of their practices and boycott their products.
Here are some products to avoid:
1) Anything with soy
2) Canola
3) Corn (especially High Fructose Corn Syrup)
4) Cotton
Eat organic and support local organic farmers. -
uroborus8, The really sick part is the seeds to grow things carry this. People might be able to grow their own from heirloom seeds available on the Internet. What a blooming nightmare.
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- Marilynn_Murray
- 4 months ago
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scary and sickening.
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This is eye opening! I agree with everyone here but particularly with uroborus8. Not only will buying locally grown organic foods be healthier, and we support our local farmers, but we need to stop trucking food in from thousands of miles away and adding more carbon to the atmosphere.
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Too bad organic food costs double or more then store bought food, people really are between a rock and a hard place.
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- rabidlemur
- 4 months ago
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Organic food costs in grocery store are starting to even out with non organics. When more people purchase organic, more organics will be produced, the price will lower.
There are alternative ways to get organics, other than your grocery store. Visit farmer's markets. You can purchase directly from the grower and the prices are cheaper.
Join a farming co-op. Visit your local grocery co-op, they should have information on local versions. In Seattle you can invest in the future harvest. You pay a fee and as produce comes to harvest it is yours.
If you have your own land, replace your grass with food. My grandparents grew and canned their own food every year. They did not have to worry about chemicals or GMO's because they grew it themselves. We can do that too! -
WAit, why is anything with soy bad? Is the soy product I purchase at Whole Foods bad?
goddamit, I try to eat as healthy as possible and then find out that I'm getting fucked either way.-
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- stephenthomson
- 4 months ago
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Yeah I live in Port Hadlock which is about 70 miles from Seattle and we have farms here that allow you to invest in the crop, usually its about 400-500 cash bucks to invest in the crop for 6 months.
I wish I had the land to garden, when I was younger and lived in California we used to grow allot, Tomatoes, Avocados, all kinds of good stuff, too bad I live in an apartment :P
I agree its the right way to go, its just not always the easy, attainable and affordable way for the more impoverished of society.-
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- rabidlemur
- 4 months ago
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Yeah I was wondering about that also, I was told by a health food hippie dude at my Co-op to use canola oil, I'm confused =/
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- rabidlemur
- 4 months ago
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This woman gives a 5 part speech (here's part 1) all about the evil of Codex Alimentarius.
very disconcerting stuff............-
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- stephenthomson
- 4 months ago
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Damned if you do and damned it you don't.
What are we suppose to eat then? -
Organic food grown close to home is a good idea. Fruit and Vegetables from the supermarket might be from Mexico or Brazil and is probably sprayed with chemicals made by our companies that they can't sell here because it is too toxic. But, Organic is probably GM. Even if the farmer buys good unmodified seed. It can and probably does get modified through pollination. This is a cancer growing on our food supply. I remember reading about a scientist that was trying to stop them from growing this GM food out where there could be cross pollinated about twenty or thirty years ago. Apparently he failed. I still think farmers market and home canning is a very good idea.
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- Marilynn_Murray
- 4 months ago
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in my experience and opinion:
soy products are not all bad. organic is the way to go and stearing clear of soy lectin (found in some brands and not others) is a way to be sure that you can digest the soy properly. finding smaller brands is a good way to be clear from GMO and fake "organic."
i believe the reference to not eating soy is due to its status as a subsidised and over-grown food. this is true, so limiting consumtion is a good idea.
also, stearing clear of processed foods as much as possible is great for body and earth.
canola oil is a weird thing. it is actually toxic and needs to be modified to make it digestable and non-deadly in humans. olive oil is a better alternative, although more expensive.
f*ck monsanto!!! -
Ah man thats crazy, oh well i'll just use olive oil, I like it better anywho.
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- rabidlemur
- 4 months ago
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- phillyphil
- 4 months ago
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Farmers Market's, a home freezer, canning. Aren't hard to do. Buy yourself a range cow from some farmer. They are cows, steers that have just grazed on pasture grass. Have it butchered at some Mom and Pop butcher and you will have yourself reasonably safe meat. Cows that go through a feed lot are not fit for human consumption. They are full of hormones, and antibiotics. They are in so much filth they have to give the antibiotics to keep them alive. The hormones are for weight gain. Don't buy tomatoes in the little plastic packages. They have been GM to fit in those packages.
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- Marilynn_Murray
- 4 months ago
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Stephen,
You asked why soy is bad. It is impossible to know whether the soy you purchase at whole foods or anywhere else is tainted with Monsanto's GMO soya. Their soy is so prevalent it is virtually impossible to find soy that is not GMO anymore. Anyone that tells you otherwise is lying or misinformed.
In the UK all soy is banned from baby food because there is no way of knowing the safety.
Even if soy wasn't GMO it is questionable whether it is safe as a food source. The FDA held off approval of soy as food for decades until Rumsfeld (a former Monsanto jerk) pushed it through. Eating soy is like taking estrogen essentially.
Canola is also a favorite Monsanto GMO. Google Canada Canola Farmer to read all about it. -
Stephen, You can eat healthy. Not completely safe obviously by using organically grown as much as possible. Buying meat direct from the source if possible. Cooking things from scratch instead of package stuff. Olive oil not only tastes better it is good for you.
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- Marilynn_Murray
- 4 months ago
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Does this nightmare remind anyone else of the killer bee fiasco? I think this may be too big to put back in the box. This is our entire food supply.
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- Marilynn_Murray
- 4 months ago
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Anything man f*cks with usually turns out to be a disaster. Companies just don't care--- profit is much more important than the lives and health of common folk.
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If you have a garden - grow Heirloom seeds - save the seeds and share them with all the other gardeners you know. The only way to be sure your food is safe is to grow it yourself - or have a friend or relative grow it for you.
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Thanks for the links Rage. Looks like you've been thinking about this too. Is there anything they won't do to us? No.
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- Marilynn_Murray
- 4 months ago
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This topic is very interesting. If you haven't yet look up The Corporation on google video. It's a documentary about the practices of Monsanto and companies like them.
I have included a link. The documentary is in 2 parts. Watch them both and get a real taste of what corporations do for "profit".-
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- titopadilla
- 4 months ago
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stephenthomson, Thank you. That is awful.
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- Marilynn_Murray
- 4 months ago
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Here is a link to Dr Weston Price's website, here it will explain in great detail the perils of soy.
When I first discovered how bad soy is for us, I really couldn't understand why all these "health food" stores sold soy. However, if you "follow the money", it will begin to unravel what is being planned; not just corporate take over of the farms, but what food we eat, and it is more like, if they can make our entire diet out of soy, then it will make them more money. So, yes this soy thing is dangerous enough, now it is gmo'd, that really add to the mix.
One more thing, I have been told about gmo, there seems real danger in cross pollinating the healthy non gmo'd plants with the sinister ones, and if that is what happens, organic farms are in real danger, -
I have read many articles but don't have the links readily available about cross pollination of genetically modified plants occurring with non-modified plants out in the country. What I remember was that there was a lawsuit between the company that owned the patent on the genetically modified corn suing a farmer after they tested some of his corn and found their genes in his corn. The argument made in defense was the cross pollination of the plants.
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makes me feel a bit sick. I've been reading about Morgellons Disease for the last year, and wondering...
This makes more sense than any other explanation I've come across, and it's quite disturbing. Also, that link Stephen posted is a Good One.
I stopped eating most "foods" with corn syrup a while ago; time to expand my List o' Foods Not To Buy.
I genuinely, physically feel better when eating raw fruits, veggies and fish anyway.
Erg. Tonight's dreams will be strange. -
Everyone seems to be getting carried away with the irrational fear of Genetically Modified foods. While there are some legitimate concerns about making and consuming GM foods, consider the benefits. We could produce crops that are resistant to certain pests without the use of dangerous pesticides which harm us and the environment. We could produce crops that allow us to extract more food from the same amount of resources and land, helping to end world hunger. High-yield anyone?
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- Colonial_Zombie
- 4 months ago
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While I support research of Genetically Modified fruits, vegetables and grains to produce higher yields to end world hunger and to help protect the environment, I do not support the genetic modification of animals. They haven't given us the permission to mess with their genes and possibly harm them, and they certainly haven't given us the permission to eat them. How would you like to have your DNA experimented on and then be eaten?
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- Colonial_Zombie
- 4 months ago
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I was developing quite a taste for the tofu at Whole Foods.
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- stephenthomson
- 4 months ago
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I keep thinking about the farmers who aren't sure whether "FrankenFoods" from crops across the fence have infected their own from seeds blown by wind or transfered by flood run-off. If they're not sure, how can I be? Who checks the silos to see what's in them these days? Can I trust what's on the product's labels anymore?
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Only halfway through stephenthomson's link on Codex Alimentarius and find the history behind this as disturbing as what seems to be coming . . .
Does anyone else feel like they've naively gone through their entire life being secretly manipulated by one powerful group or another? -
greedy bastards, just keep trying make some big bucks and dont give a damn if its hurting us or not...the last thing we need is people tampering with our fruits and veggies...eventually all food being sold to us will probably be tampered with and have some crazy chemicals in them
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- ceceilia8671
- 4 months ago
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When nature modifies the genetic structure it is through natural selection, when a corporation modifies genetics it is for profit. Although the sentiment about making higher yield and more pest resistant crops is a strong and compelling one, the profit motive is too strong to resist.
Who do you think cares more about life; nature or corporations? -
Chique wrote:
Does anyone else feel like they've naively gone through their entire life being secretly manipulated by one powerful group or another?
+++Hand goes up in the air+++
I do! -
Man i really need to get back on my all natural veggie kick again...
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Hunter ask..."Can I trust what's on the product's labels anymore?"
Hunter that is a great question, and I wonder the same thing. I love it that we are having this conversation concerning something that in my view; is one of the most important issues on the planet; for if we cannot maintain nutritious food supplies, what is there but disease(mental and physical).
Over the years I have watched our food supply become contaminated through so many sources, but my one saving grace was eating local, eating organic and choosing what would be my poison.
GMO'd foods have not had long term testing, and they are not required to be labeled here in USA; not so in many other countries. I ask you why is that? Why has there been no labeling required?
Thanks everyone who is opening their minds; that is the first step in breaking from that "secret manipulation by one powerful group or another". -
I wonder if it changes the a fruit tree permanently? Or just the fruit in one season? Years ago when I first read about GM food I was very concerned about the yield not being as nutritious and flavorful. I could not imagine the horror it
