Can Americans stop Bush/Cheney from attacking Iran? The answer is yes!
- added April 13, 2008
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The above may seem like a bold statement, but I believe it’s true. The United States of America is operated and kept alive by the American people, not the politicians that rape, pillage, and spend our money and our most precious resource, America’s brave soldiers that fight these illegal wars. Many of our “volunteer military” are not in the fight because of patriotism - but to support their families and seek GI benefits that will allow them to attend college when they leave the armed services.
Our economy is already in ruins, food and gas are becoming luxuries to the poorest families in America, and the middle-class is disappearing faster than Bush’s approval ratings. Millions of us are facing foreclosure, while the oil companies post profits that are obscene - and still receive huge government subsidies. The average American is now becoming aware that Bush and Cheney are war criminals, yet Congress refuses to impeach them, even though there is a mountain of evidence that supports their immediate impeachment, indictment, and incarceration for breaking our own and international laws. Congress is worthless, and as bad as Bush’s ratings are, Congress rates worse, symptoms that the public has lost respect and hope that any of them will find the courage to do what’s right! The only thing left to stop the destruction of our country and another war is the people themselves - but first, they have to know what to do. As we stated over a year ago, its time that America’s premier alternative news sites, Blogs, and every individual on the Internet get busy and come together in solidarity to take back our country.
by William Cormier
Our economy is already in ruins, food and gas are becoming luxuries to the poorest families in America, and the middle-class is disappearing faster than Bush’s approval ratings. Millions of us are facing foreclosure, while the oil companies post profits that are obscene - and still receive huge government subsidies. The average American is now becoming aware that Bush and Cheney are war criminals, yet Congress refuses to impeach them, even though there is a mountain of evidence that supports their immediate impeachment, indictment, and incarceration for breaking our own and international laws. Congress is worthless, and as bad as Bush’s ratings are, Congress rates worse, symptoms that the public has lost respect and hope that any of them will find the courage to do what’s right! The only thing left to stop the destruction of our country and another war is the people themselves - but first, they have to know what to do. As we stated over a year ago, its time that America’s premier alternative news sites, Blogs, and every individual on the Internet get busy and come together in solidarity to take back our country.
by William Cormier
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This war will happen only if they reconstitute the draft and many of these men and women don't want to fight under this administration because the reasons are false.
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- cheche_201
- 5 months ago
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"This war will happen only if they reconstitute the draft ....."
Step one to re-instituting the draft will be the elimination of "don't ask, don't tell." Otherwise the simple statement, "I'm gay", becomes the ultimate get out of the draft free card. -
...if they give me a gun and try and force me to go fight I'll simply turn on them. as they use to frag in vietnam, so too shall we frag again if forced to. hopefully it won't come down to that but who knows with the american mentality to way it is today.
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keep on blogging!
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yes, we have to stand up!
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We can't lose sight of the fact that even if we can stop a war in Iran, that doesn't mean we have stopped crooked politics. If the powers that be fail to start a war in Iran, they will surely be starting a war elsewhere, and we need to be vigilant of that.
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that´s true, but i think that one could take the wind out of the politicians sails if the people unite. they need the citizens to realize their plans..
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First amendment to the constitution guarantees our right to peacefully assemble and petition the government for a redress of grievances. I agree that we all need to be united to speak as one LOUD AND CLEAR VOICE.
How do we demonstrate our solidarity? A march on the capital? A petition? This is the big conundrum on how to create a voice that will be heard by those running rough shod over the rest of us. Where do we get them where it really hurts them? Are we willing to get hurt in the process?
These are very serious things to consider, because the police state has set the stage for brutal enforcement of there new law; suppression of free expression and free will. -
I can tell you the fastest way to elicit change is to vote. It has been said that true change will only come about if all the people in America vote. The saddest fact about the war is that all the people that complain about it, could have prevented it if they only had spoken their mind and voted!
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With a slowing economy hopefully having less money in the common folks pocket will begin to make more people pay attention to whats going on. We've all seen outrageous prosperity in our lifetime. I'm only 22 and all I know are good times. I can't imagine famine or poverty. Once the giant party is over people will realize something hopefully. With so many fat and happy who cares about how much more or less someone has. The downhill slope is much more treacherous to everyone common and rich. Its a war between the haves and have nots. A great quote is don't forget to be kind on the way up cause you never know who you might run into on the way back down. We impeach Clinton for getting a blowjob but not Cheney for masterminding war profiteering and Bush for approving it. Whats up with that?
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First person to put a gun in my hand and say "fight!" gets a shot in the face.
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- stephenthomson
- 5 months ago
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Good point, but what do you suggest? Come together how? Where? When? An idea or notion isn’t enough, real action is what needs to happen... but who will actually organize and who would miss work, come out of our everyday lives and attend?
I'm not being cynical or demeaning what you’re saying, I feel exactly the same way but struggle to find a real solution. -
why stop the US from attacking Iran ? do you assume Iran can't stand up to the US ? it seems insulting to say " the US should not attack Iran because it would be unfair " - can't Iran speak for itself ? does Iran need to be baby-sat by anti-bush peeps here in the US ? the assumption seems to be that the US , in fact , rules - why not let the US test Iran , and see how things work out . i'm not selfish - i want what's best for this planet - and if having a real war is what this world needs to level things out for right now then i'm all for it . give me one reason why ww3 wouldn't be any worse than 200 years of BS "negotiations" whereby every nation in this world has to play coy little games to scrape by . this planet will re-green itself after we're gone - it can do just fine without us - the sooner we sort things out as a species the better off this planet will be .
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If or when if it does finally happen, let's just start calling it World War III.
Better yet, why wait? It already is effecting the rest of the world. -
"Why stop the US from attacking Iran?”
I don’t think the "anti-bush" peeps are saying that Iran is a weak and defenseless country; I think the American people are angry at their government for potentially planning to attack another country with financial gain as the primary reason. As for war, many lives would be lost from both sides, America is a superpower and their current government is a global threat to any country that it feels it can exploit and get anyway with it through media control and false justification. The point is something needs to happen. Best not to wait and see what happens, there is/has to be a solution that doesn’t involve millions of lives being lost -
A war with Iran is very unlikely mainly because it’s just not feasible on so many levels; also the draft will never come back unless we were invaded. Another thing to note was that the Iraq War was sold to us and the reason why Congress is frozen in its actions is because those god damn reds a.k.a. the Republicans still hold power. Once Bush leaves and Obama comes to office god willing then this should all change for the better but it will take a while. As a closing thought let me say this the sixties weren't that much different in terms of it being a time of unknowns and political chaos. Think about it. I do agree though that would be a good idea to get the message across.
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Sure they can. But the real question is, will they?
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- Vierotchka
- 5 months ago
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i'd say we need to go into iran. they have nukes and will sell to the highest bidder. its one of our top enemies next to the rest of the middle east. anyone read the quran/koran to realize that islam is not a religion of peace but of neutralizing all infidels aka white people who will not bow down to Muhammad's teachings?
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That's total, hysterical nonsense, diode.
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- Vierotchka
- 5 months ago
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not at all. iran is a country led by a man who, out of his own mouth, on multiple occasions, has said, death to america, death to infidels, death to white people. do you want me to get links to each and every one of his outbursts? or the links to the rallies of iranians being taught from gradeschool on up that america is evil and it is to be destroyed?
back up your flippant responses before trying to make a fool of anothers opinions -
Ahmadinejad doesn't lead Iran, he is at best a figurehead. Iranians are not being taught from gradeschool up that America is evil and to be destroyed. Have you ever been to Iran? I have. They are a great people, highly civilized and cultured. You have, at best, been reading intentional mistranslations of Ahmadinejad's speeches - do you know Parsi? If so, check what he actually said, or have a neutral Iranian translate his speeches for you. Oh, and Iranians are white people too, didn't you know? They are pure and authentic Aryans - the etymology of the word Aryan is from Old Persian - Ariya- hence Iran.
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- Vierotchka
- 5 months ago
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I'm not here to pick a bone with you but yes i have. my former schoolmate left Iran and was in the same college as i was and he let actually did tell me a lot of what was going on in Iran and what was going on with its leadership. no i don't know parsi and no i have not been there, nor do i have the desire to go into hostile territory as a white American male.
i wont disagree with you there is a lot of history surrounding the Iranian territory throughout the last few thousand years but it doesn't have much to do with today, mainly because modern iran has only been on the global scene since the early 1900's, up until then it has mainly been one dynasty after another as new invaders take over ever few hundred years
people call bush a figurehead as well and he took us straight into war. Irans president is actually crazy. this man claims the holocaust was a fake, that the world cries out for the death of isreal, america and england are in league with satan. he is a hardline politician who does what he wants regardless of the people. how is this case any different?
the best solution to these issues is cooperation but the fundamentals backing their decisions do not allow this if they are to be true to what they say they are called to
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to your aryan remark, let me clarify then, the "white infidels" have all been called to be cleansed. my mistake. -
What we all fail to realize is that ISLAM began with 300 fighters. This amount has triple since the beginning. The middle east as mentioned in the Bible were filled with Jews and Arabs, now it is ISLAM, MUSLIMS, JEWS, AND ARABS. This shows how ISLAM has converted so many jews to ISLAM.
If this is not true, then why when we began fighting in Iraq, the community was protecting the religious city of babalyon. And Saddam's mother was jewish. I still see these people as Jews and if they stop fighting against eachother and study their past, they will see that they are hating and fighting against what they really are and thats a Jew. I'm not saying anything against the Jews, just that the middle east mentioned in the bible were of a Jewish territory. They changed their religion not who they are. And the new Hate the world attitude is not who they really suspose to be but with their new religion they hate everybody who is not or do not see their religion as the truth.-
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- cheche_201
- 5 months ago
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If he was your schoolmate who had left Iran, his family was among the anti-Mossadegh, pro-Shah, pro-Savak ,pro-CIA lackeys who fled when Iranians took their country back from the UK and the USA, so anything he told you was propaganda and lies. The hostility of Iranians against Americans is fully justified, and if you are familiar with the history of Iran over the past 70 or so years, you should know that.
Bush is indeed a figurehead and at the same time a part of the cabal who took you straight into war. Iran's president is not crazy, and what you claim he said is mendacious propaganda. He is not the leader of Iran, Bush is far more a leader of his country than Ahmadinejad of his.
Iran has not been taken over by invaders every few hundred years, by the way, neither has it aggressed another country for centuries. It has, however, always fought back those who aggressed it.
As for America and England being in league with Satan, their history over the past several hundred years tends to demonstrate this quite well, wouldn't you say? Genocides, pillage, colonialism, etc. At any rate, nothing Godly about either country whatsoever. Nothing.
Yes, cooperation would be an excellent solution, except that both America and the UK have time and time again proven themselves to be totally dishonest and dishonorable, and not to be trusted.
As for white infidels, since Islam recognizes and respects the other two People of the Book, i.e. the Christian and Judaic religions, they refer to those who betray these religions as being infidels. In that, they are quite accurate. They consider true Christians and true Jews who faithfully follow the precepts of their respective religions as righteous, and have no quarrel with them. Why do you think that the overwhelming majority of Iranian Jews do not wish to leave Iran and emigrate to Israel in spite of the vast sums of money with which Israel has attempted to bribe them to convince them to leave Iran? Why do you think the Christian minorities in Iran love their country and are well treated?-
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- Vierotchka
- 5 months ago
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i'll let you have the last word on this otherwise it will go on far too long and i don't have the patience. good, informative replies, i appreciate the time you put into them
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cheche_201 - Saddam's mother was not Jewish. The Middle East at the time you mention was filled with people of all sorts of religions - pagans, followers of Mithras, believers in Roman Gods, and a great many others. Ethnically speaking, the Middle East was filled with Greeks, Romans, Persians, Arabs, Africans, Phoenecians, Jews, Turkics, and several other ethnicities.
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- Vierotchka
- 5 months ago
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To those who voted for this goon....TWICE...it's your fault and enjoy your self-created nightmare!
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Talking about voting for a goon TWICE ... here in Italy the people just voted again for Berlusconi.
Seems that here we'll have to face a similar nightmare to the one you are experiencing in the US, just few years shifted in time.
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To hell with sending troops into Iran, if they don't stop trying to get the bomb, LEVEL the dump. No surgical strikes, no whiney ass "peace at all cost" BS, send in the bombers and turn it into a parking lot. Oh and BTW, make it public when it will happen and watch the GOOD citizens of Iran rise up against their pathetic leader Hitler Jr. The savages in power in the Mid-East speak one language and one language only, you spill their blood or they will spill yours. Time to take them to task on it.
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- Liberal_Extinction
- 5 months ago
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Liberal_Extinction, there is no evidence whatsoever that they are trying to get the bomb. As for leveling the "dump", that "dump" happens to be a beautiful country with a population of over sixty-five million men, women and children. Ahmadinejad is not Iran's leader, he is Iran's president - a figurehead position. The only savages in the Middle East are Israelis, Americans, Brits, and some Arabs. Your post is absolutely disgusting and unworthy of a human being.
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- Vierotchka
- 5 months ago
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Go wait in Iran for my apology letter, I'll attach it to the nose of a bunker buster for you. I stand by what I said, you make it public and you set a date in stone that if they don't dispose of ALL nuclear technology and run ahmadinejad (hitler jr) out of town that we'll get rid of him. No more guerilla warfare with terrorist sympathizers, no more suicide bombers, no more IED's, it's time to burn 'em to the ground and start 'em over from scratch with a CLEAR understanding of what happens when they let their zealots/ fanatics get out of hand again. It's obvious that many peaceniks throughout the world don't have the stomach to try and surgically purge ONLY the trouble makers. So let's show them what the alternative is and see if they STFU next time we try to help further democracy to the middle east instead of just blowing it clean off the map like we should have done in the first place after 9-11. I'm sick and tired of the refusal of the citizens of the M.E. standing idly by and watching these terrorists spread their filth. Time for them to clean up their own GD mess or GTFO of the gene pool.
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- Liberal_Extinction
- 5 months ago
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De-fund the Busheney gang!
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- VoyagerFilms
- 4 months ago
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We had better stop W from launching a war against Iran or we'll NEVER get rid of him. That will be his excuse for declaring a state of emergency, suspending the Constitution, disbanding the Congress and suspending the elections in November. He will expand the dictatorial powers he has already tried to implement and we will be SCREWED!
We're already in WW III thanks to W and the wimps in Congress. Both W and Dicky need to be in jail for war crimes. Some of their advisors probably need to be jailed as well. The people who are "representing" us in the House and Senate need to be replaced!
I don't really like any of the current candidates for the '08 Presidential election but either of the Democrats are preferable to John - I might be W - McCain. McCain has no clue about how to begin improving life in this country and in the world at large.
Vote! Vote! Vote!!
