War for profit? No, Republicans wouldn't do that... would they?
- added April 19, 2008
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Was Iran labeled a" sponsor of terrorists" for the financial gain of Ripusoffican's? Was the White house attempting to blackmail Iran into business deals with their interests?
An excerpt from an article on Perrspectives.com;
"That subsidiary, Halliburton Products and Services, Ltd., is wholly owned by the U.S.-based Halliburton and is registered in a building in the capital of the Cayman Islands -- a building owned by the local Calidonian Bank. Halliburton and other companies set up in this Caribbean Island, because of tax and secrecy laws that are corporate friendly."
"Halliburton is the company that Vice President Dick Cheney used to run. He was CEO from 1995 to 2000, during which time Halliburton Products and Services set up shop in Iran. Today, it sells about $40 million a year worth of oil field services to the Iranian government."
Of Romney's efforts to get other's to use "strategic disinvestment" as leverage against Iran, his real intentions may be for personal profit - not US security since he himself is tied to Iran through his business dealings. In denial and in an attempt to deceive Americans, Romney had this to say;
"This is something for now-forward. I wouldn't begin to say that people who, in the past, have been doing business with Iran, are subject to the same scrutiny as that which is going on from a prospective basis."
Read on...
An excerpt from an article on Perrspectives.com;
"That subsidiary, Halliburton Products and Services, Ltd., is wholly owned by the U.S.-based Halliburton and is registered in a building in the capital of the Cayman Islands -- a building owned by the local Calidonian Bank. Halliburton and other companies set up in this Caribbean Island, because of tax and secrecy laws that are corporate friendly."
"Halliburton is the company that Vice President Dick Cheney used to run. He was CEO from 1995 to 2000, during which time Halliburton Products and Services set up shop in Iran. Today, it sells about $40 million a year worth of oil field services to the Iranian government."
Of Romney's efforts to get other's to use "strategic disinvestment" as leverage against Iran, his real intentions may be for personal profit - not US security since he himself is tied to Iran through his business dealings. In denial and in an attempt to deceive Americans, Romney had this to say;
"This is something for now-forward. I wouldn't begin to say that people who, in the past, have been doing business with Iran, are subject to the same scrutiny as that which is going on from a prospective basis."
Read on...
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- VoyagerFilms
- 5 months ago
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W's grandfather Prescott Bush was caught doing business with Germany during that war. He was a war profiteer and I would say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. This mess wouldn't have happened if we had a decent free press. Thanks to Reagan and Bill Clinton we do not have a free press or fairness in broadcasting. Do you really think Hillary is any different from Bill NAFTA Clinton?
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- Marilynn_Murray
- 5 months ago
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the corruption...
what are we supposed to do when everything congress does (or DOESN'T do!) just freakn owns us ever more and more, as with that domestic "terrorist" legislation??? how can it be we can openly discuss such obvious and egregious conflicts of interest like this and congress doesn't do shitE like their heads are tucked firmly between their furry cheeks?! Pretty soon we won't be able to even SAY shite about it! =( =( =( -
ultimately that's the only choice left to us...a bloody revolution for an unresponsive propogandizing government that has learned to hone and perfect the Nazi principles of controlling "its" masses.
I just hate to think our Bill of Rights is in it's last dying throes because of these g'dam phuktop neo-con sobz. I say bring what they advocate for us down on the heads of the mferz who dishonor our freedoms from their high towers. Those who've ALREADY died for rights of Freedom of Speech shouldn't have been considered to have died in vain such that *we're* essentially obligated to "reinvent the wheel" each and every time someone thinks to flatten it for bogus "domestic terrorism" and/or "homeland 'security'"
I marvel that most of us may not wake up in time before it's too late to even worry that too much "security" has actually already become rationalized domestic tyranny! -
Well said Marilynn!! Diddo
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Remember the 60s? (ooops!) hardly any of today's younger generation is even awake to notice much else than who their latest hopeful fav entertainer is...
the non-violent approach would be really nice if it was actually feasible, but I think there would have to be real suffering before any substantive change really happened. i tend to think even regarding this war for profit thing, that the responsible parties (the leaders) simply must be absolutely removed and humiliated.
Who has the actual will to make these kinds of changes and the vigilance to ensure these kinds of issues don't *keep* cropping up to threaten our liberties? Only the people who likely will never officially get a chance to lead this country in that direction by the current establishment of standards and expectations...the JFKs, the MLKs, the Edwards, the Ron Pauls, the Kucinechs (whatever), the Naders etc... (notice I don't really include Gore here...does he stand for anything but a poster child for global warming??? seems there should be a lot more this man should be ACTIVELY involved in with his affluence, privilege and stature.)
and sadly that's where I do agree with ObiaMan's comment in another thread that "Change" may just be, after all, a codeword for [paraphrasing] "you're still getting the shaft punks." -
=D lol yes...succinctly like that.
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This does not surprise me at all this is just what I expected from these cat. It's all about the money and extortion aint out of the question
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dose not suprise me at all
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It wasn't about the US remaining the world power for the next hundred years, it would seem it's about personal gain for a handful of people.
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- VoyagerFilms
- 5 months ago
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and I think those "few" were hoping for the violence to spill over Iran's way... It's like these guys really are satanists in arrested development getting off orgasmically on the chaos.
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we will be fooled again .
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VoyagerFilms, I reckon it is both, as the former will keep feeding the latter.
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- Vierotchka
- 5 months ago
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Let's be fair to "i was against abortion, before I was for it, after I was against it", mormon snake oil salesman. He says that his company "divested" from dealing with Iran once he found out.
But that doesn't matter, because Israel is there to pick up that slack...yeah yeah, I know, "wipe off the map", "hitler", "mushroom clouds"...
Boo!
Israel's Tehran connection
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More suffering? I don't know if you've noticed, but we are suffering already. Unemployment is creeping up, the housing market is bottoming out, health care is ridiculous, and now food prices are rising to the point some can't even afford to eat. An this armed struggle against a government that spends more than anyone on weapons is non sense. We need to do what we should have been doing decades ago. UNITE WITH EACH OTHER. One of the more brilliant and ultimately destructive things the Bush campaign did was rip this country in two on issues that really have no bearing on the national stage and have any affect on how we live. We are still reeling from this. Mix that division with fear from 'terrorists', which is becoming a McCarthyist slogan just like communist was. If we want a better nation, WE have to put in the work. We need our media to inform us. We need to talk to each other. We need to make our states people responsible for legislation they are making. We need to stop being so afraid of everything and remember what the constitution is here for. These are things we can all do, right now. Instead of continuing the rhetoric of what is wrong, lets band together and come up with some plausible solutions that will benefit us all.
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That's fine AreOh, but give me back the money unfairly taken from me by unscrupulous manipulation of crude oil prices, the money unscrupulously taken from me by corrupt banks and credit card companies, my tax dollars given to the wealthy elite all of which was enabled by morally bankrupt elected officials - many of whom are still in office.
Give me back natural food - untampered with by mankind, give me back the Constitution. Give me back the American dream and treat me fair - then we can discuss anything you want. -
Well said Voyager!
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I'm with you, man. Unfortunately this country has a history of not giving a damn about accountability or fairness. We all want those wrongs to be righted. Wishing for it, however, isn't going to make it happen. We have to proactive about it, across the board. We have to demand this change. We have to create this change. WE. Not you, or me or them or us. We have to do this together. I can't stress this enough...
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I KEEP WAKING UP TO KNOWING ABOUT MORE HORRORS CREATED BY POWERFUL GREEDBREEDING GOOD OLD BOYS... AND TO KNOWING THAT KNOWING WILL NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE... AND TO KNOWING NOT KNOWING WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT!
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Sorry tikiman, but I feel compelled to clear some things up. Before I do let me say that I agree with you about the neocons and the Bush family. And it is true that these things should have been discussed years ago.
However, simply because a group says it favors an ideology does not mean that they follow it. The Republican's (specifically the neocon variety) claiming that they "hate big government" or extol the virtues of free markets are a prime example. It's a grand facade that they present in the continuing pointless two party drama. One group pays by raising taxes, the other by borrowing from future generations. The effect is the same.
Economically speaking, the Rebuplicans and Democrats both clearly follow and favor Keynesianism. The only subtle difference between them is that their central plans have different priorities. The chart to the right is a shocking representation of how the two-headed monster just keeps growing. Throw in the fact that most people aren't even aware of the principles of sound money and how the Fed is fleecing us and we've got a recipe for disaster.
Every American should revisit F.A. Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom." The Nobel prize winner forwarned us of what is being played out before our very eyes. And as Peter Schiff, quoting his father Irwin Schiff, said recently in an interview at mises.org, "... Saying Austrian economics makes as much sense as saying Chinese physics. Austrian economics is economics, period!" -
For more on how the Fed is robbing us check this out. Jon Stewart (who clearly gets it) interviewing Fed Chairman Alan "Mr. Bubble" Greenspan.
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