Clinton campaign gets new conservative nod

""Many of her views on domestic issues are too liberal for us....."

Does anyone think this guy will not endorse McCain in the general election?

I read this as, " Give us Clinton, she'll be easier to beat." (and we have several file cabinets full of bad shit to throw at her once the real battle is joined".)

seeker561, I think your right. Hillary bought George W. and the neocons lies about the urgency of Iraq. I think she is gullible and desperate enough to buy their (phony) endorsements.

Besides Clinton, 28 other democratic senators also voted for Iraq including Kerry and Dashule and 36 continued to vote for funding for Iraq including Casey and McCaskill, all Obama supporters. Are these gullible and desperate leaders as well?

The other representatives of which you write, are not running to represent US as president. Her association with the right wing media pundits who have done so much damage to our Democratic candidates is what I was talking about. She was misled, I guess. Wasn't Kerry's vote used against him by the right?

As far as I am concerned, none of them stopped the Bush administration from preemptively attacking Iraq. There are far too many gullible represenatives in both parties. It just happens that right wing media pundits control the spin machine, we call our nightly news.

Good point on the right wing media. However, I think the problem with Kerry wasn't because he voted for Iraq but his comments on "voting for Iraq before he voted against it" created the misperception that he was a flip-flopper. Criticisms of Clinton's Iraq vote are valid only if Obama disassociates from those who also voted and supported the war. To have them advocate and serve as advisors, and he himself also voted for the funding of the war somewhat undermines his argument and credibility. Don't you think?

I'm not one who supports cutting off the funds. I think they shirk their responsibility when the money can be unaccountable and no investigation as to how it is happening, or addressing ways to change it in the future.

Contractors not being held accountable is not acceptable. Our troops are there, they should not be shortchanged. But the money being given on no-bid contracts is a problem they should all be investigating.

If the war continues to be mismanaged and little progress is made, what's the point of funding to no end? Congress has a constitutional right to influence policy by its sheer power of the purse. By continue authorizing billions upon billions, is it not an indication of endorsement of a failed policy?

That's besides the point. To your original argument, if that holds true, why didn't the liberal media and pundits endorse Romney or Huckabee given that they would be the easiest candidates to beat? Instead most endorsed McCain on the Republican side...or maybe because they thought he was a decent man and if Republicans were to win, McCain would be the preferred person?

Hillary has been getting the conservative nod for decades, after all, she was a republican in her youth.

She's very religious as well, so she should appeal to the evangelicals as well as conservatives.

What a score for neoconservatives and the chicago school if they can have a showdown between two of their favorites.

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Hillary's Prayer: Hillary Clinton's Religion and Politics

Through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the Fellowship. Her collaborations with right-wingers such as Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and former Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) grow in part from that connection. "A lot of evangelicals would see that as just cynical exploitation," says the Reverend Rob Schenck, a former leader of the militant anti-abortion group Operation Rescue who now ministers to decision makers in Washington. "I don't....there is a real good that is infected in people when they are around Jesus talk, and open Bibles, and prayer."

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When Clinton first came to Washington in 1993, one of her first steps was to join a Bible study group. For the next eight years, she regularly met with a Christian "cell" whose members included Susan Baker, wife of Bush consigliere James Baker; Joanne Kemp, wife of conservative icon Jack Kemp; Eileen Bakke, wife of Dennis Bakke, a leader in the anti-union Christian management movement; and Grace Nelson, the wife of Senator Bill Nelson, a conservative Florida Democrat.

Clinton's prayer group was part of the Fellowship (or "the Family"), a network of sex-segregated cells of political, business, and military leaders dedicated to "spiritual war" on behalf of Christ, many of them recruited at the Fellowship's only public event, the annual National Prayer Breakfast. (Aside from the breakfast, the group has "made a fetish of being invisible," former Republican Senator William Armstrong has said.) The Fellowship believes that the elite win power by the will of God, who uses them for his purposes. Its mission is to help the powerful understand their role in God's plan.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillary...

TooPolitical, I don't agree with your earlier comment:

I think the problem with Kerry wasn't because he voted for Iraq but his comments on "voting for Iraq before he voted against it" created the misperception that he was a
flip-flopper.

I think the problem with kerry wasn't his flip-flopping, it was MSM. They were the ones who spun the spin of flip-flopping. They controlled the message. It's time our Democratic candidate controls the message. Don't let them spin shit, call them on it, embarrass them for their actions. Address the issue with facts and move along. Make them look foolish for trying to spin the American people. We shouldn't allow them to spin facts! No one should let them spin facts, not for the right or the left.