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The only problem is that Israel and the United States refuse to talk. Israel continues to take land (illegally), Israel continues to put up road blocks (against the peace plan) and Israel continues to kill innocent children and people with their overkill retaliation and not allowing medical supplies into Palestine. Its all about power and greed folks. Here's some info:

n 1992, AIPAC president David Steiner was forced to resign after he was tape recorded boasting about his political influence in obtaining aid for Israel. Steiner claimed that he had "met with (then Bush U.S. Secretary of State) Jim Baker and I cut a deal with him. I got, besides the $3 billion, you know they're looking for the Jewish votes, and I'll tell him whatever he wants to hear ... Besides the $10 billion in loan guarantees which was a fabulous thing, $3 billion in foreign, in military aid, and I got almost a billion dollars in other goodies that people don't even know about." Steiner also claimed to be "negotiating" with the incoming Clinton administration over who Clinton would appoint as Secretary of State and Secretary of the National Security Agency. Steiner stated that AIPAC had "a dozen people in [the Clinton] campaign, in the headquarters... in Little Rock, and they're all going to get big jobs."

Haim Katz told The Washington Times that he taped the conversation because "as someone Jewish, I am concerned when a small group has a disproportionate power. I think that hurts everyone, including Jews. If David Steiner wants to talk about the incredible, disproportionate clout AIPAC has, the public should know about it."

Again, its all about greed and power. Without the AIPAC and simular organizations there would be no problems in the Mideast.
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28 responses // Carter: Hamas willing to accept Israel

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  • I think Carter's work with Hamas is misunderstood by the Press and is generally misrepresented (especially on right wing talk shows who protray Carter as hating America and aiding and abetting the enemy)

    Israel (it seems to me) has been given a blank check by the US to go crazy. Israel has engaged in a lot of activity in the name of "security" that is creating more problems then it's solving -- and with the full knowledge and backing of the US.

    It seems that Israel is suffering from PTSD from World War II. When you look at the horrible crimes that were done unto them -- you'd think they'd be hesistant to do those things to the people of Palestine. The Nazis dehumanized and brutalized the Jewish people and now it seems the Jewish people have no qualms about dehumanizing and brutalizing their Middle Eastern neighbors. It just seems odd -- or makes perfect sense if we view the entire culture of Israel as suffering from horrible PTSD. I just don't see how else we can explain some of the actions Israel have taken in the name of security.

    Hopefully Carter will be successful in healing some of the terrible psychological wounds that exist on both sides and are fueling the conflict.
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    crob80227
  • I'm sure we'll be hearing from the Hasbara soon.

    Hasbara

    Hasbara refers to the propaganda efforts to sell Israel, justify its actions, and defend it in world opinion. Using contemporary euphemisms; it is Public diplomacy for Israel, or using a pejorative interpretation, then it is apologia. Israel portrays itself as fighting on two fronts: the Palestinians and world opinion. The latter is dealt with hasbara. The premise of hasbara is that Israel's problems are a matter of better propaganda, and not one of an underlying unjust situation.

    The techniques utilized

    Smearing/defaming critics of Israel, aka, attacking the messenger. This is even the terminology found in the Hasbara Handbook

    Selective discussion of issues

    Framing of issues, and setting the terminology used in discussing Israel

    Harassing media about its coverage, aka, flak

    Challenging the portrayal of an alternative narrative, and attempting to keep the zionist narrative as the dominant one.

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hasbara

    http://www.occupation101.com/
    JT247
  • watch this comment being used here, here and here
    end that goddamned occupations: Iraq and Palestine.

    good start Mr Carter. thank you for demonstrating once more that diplomacy ought not be limited to our friends.
    chet_arthur
  • Carters doing it again. Whats your retirement ganna consist of?
    ivxx
  • To begin with, I am not sure of what role a former US President should have in our foreign policy. It is clear that President Carter has taken a path not advocated by the Bush administration. By doing so, does he undermine the plans and direction of a sitting President, and if so, what right, if any does he have in doing so? Does having been elected by a majority 30 years ago give President Carter the right to act of his own accord in matters that affect so many on the world stage? These are questions that I am not sure about, but I deeply respect this man and I believe that he operates out of a sincerity and wisdom that we have unfortunately seen lacking in the current administration. Part of a plan for peace has to include speaking with one's enemies. President Carter has demonstrated that negotiation begins with this principle, and by getting Hamas to make the concession that they will accept a Palestinian state side by side with Isreal, only leaves Isreal to accept Hamas. They now hold all the cards and the chips.
    Craig_C
  • I have no doubt that whoever becomes our next President will realize that utilizing George W. Bush's legendary diplomatic skills will be critical in creating a lasting peace in the Middle East.

    If there is one honest broker that all sides trust whole-heartedly to negotiate square deals for all parties, it's The Decider.

    Or, alternatively, maybe a short term solution to easing tensions between Israel and their neighbors would be to "utilize" George by simply handing him over to Palestine as a permanent (and involuntary) ambassador for the US?

    That is to say: George can never, ever leave Palestine. Ever!

    Since locking up insane royals in the Black Tower fell out of fashion in the 1700's -- maybe exiling the Mad Texan to live amongst those "filthy pagans" he hates so much for the rest of his life would be a fitting punishment for the Iraq War and GitMo?
    crob80227
  • Carter's undeniable diplomatic genius has been undermined by a slew of American media cronies. The fact that he is negotiating with Hamas is a reverberating step forward in the conflict. Both sides have committed atrocities against one another, yet the Israelis have been shrouded by the media as the victims and the Palestinians as the villains. The long road towards peace has been undoubtedly blocked by ignorance on both sides. Inevitably the Holy Land will no longer be drenched in blood, yet the grueling process towards peace will be a long and tumultuous one. This conflict is innately human, with weeping mother's on both sides, the world tends to forget that.
    dylcool23
  • watch this comment being used here, here, here, here and here
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7359661.stm
    um, naw-aw.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7359661.stm

    "Hamas rejects Israeli recognition"

    Palestinian militant group Hamas will not recognise Israel, its political leader Khaled Meshaal has insited.

    He was responding to comments by former US President Jimmy Carter, following their talks in Syria at the weekend.
    abbo
  • dammit! the stubbornness kills me. thanks for reporting that dude.
    dylcool23
  • So nice to see that so many of the 'commenters' here are well versed in the history of the Middle East and are wholly unbiased in their opinions - not!
    Does anyone know why the United States and the European Union amongst others refuses to sit down with Hamas? Has anyone read the history and charter of this group? Saddam Hussein was a nice guy compared to the leaders of Hamas.
    Finally, it's not only the Bush administration but other administrations as well that have relegated Carter to the margin because he's a fringe thinker despite his intellect and he's also an anti-semite.
    drbehavior
  • whoa whoa whoa drbehavior,

    I understand full well why many nations including the united states refuse to negotiate with Hamas, recognizing groups that use terrorism as a method increases the incentive to use that method. But on what grounds is Charter an anti-semite? Because he doesn't side with Israel in this conflict? does that make every person who shows support for Israel an anti-arab Zionist? no.

    Calling an ex-president an anti-Semite is bold, you need to back that claim up. Charter is also not a "fringe-thinker" he is a fringe politician. There are many people who think open dialog with Hamas is a necessary step to peace including nearly 60% of the Israeli public.
    abbo
  • All i have to say is Jimmy Carter is an amazing person, and represents the united states the way we all should.
    sail4life8
  • Jimmy Carter has the best interests of the Middle East at heart. He wants them to negotiate peace. Maybe his visit will open the way for the next President. Bush certainly won't try for peace there not when he wants to test out nuclear bombs on someone, anyone.
    Marilynn_Murray
  • drbehavior - it is you who are a racist. You are attempting to reduce this dialog to name calling like a truly ignorant person.

    The world is waking up to the many forms and sources of manipulation.

    Thank you WORLDPEACETV for bringing this to us!

    JT247 - you are right on the money!
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    VoyagerFilms
  • Israel and Palestine will probably never find true peace until both nations as a whole decide this fight they are fighting is pointless, its up to Israel and Palestine's youth right now to decide on peace and wait for there time to implicate it.
    justwannafindmytrue
  • im so happy to hear Hamas is willing to accept Israel. the fact that the "extremist terrorists" (as deemed by the US and Israel) are showing that they aren't actually as crazy as everyone thinks makes them look more rational.

    plus now, the pressure is on the US and Israel to do something, which they probably won't do... but you never know! :)
    shazo
  • You know, the current (and outgoing regime in the US) and Israel seem to reject the idea - conditionalizing peace, and accepting that without it, more innocent lives wil be lost on both sides - what monsters these people are.

    My disgust for this mentality is without words.
    VoyagerFilms
  • http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AI...
    Ooops . . . seems like Hamas doesn't agree with Mr. Carter's assessment. Is any more proof needed that this doddering old fool needs to stay out of foreign affairs? Hoping for peace is admirable . . . being taken for a fool is not.
    jawnybnsc
  • I admire Mr. Carter for spending his time trying to resolve the problem. Be it successful or not. I think there are more successes from his trip than failures. They are at least talking and considering, they weren't before he went there.
    Marilynn_Murray
  • Feel free to think me a fool - jawnybnsc.

    There'll be no blood for stolen land nor greed on my hands.
    VoyagerFilms
  • Power - we take what we want

    Greed - we get paid for the dirt we do

    Acceptance - The number #1 country, listen to me although I am lieing to them.

    Such as we were shipped to the middle east by Germany and now we are running this country the way we want.

    I guess when Jesus return he is going to be confused with who is good and who is evil

    You Heard Me.
    cheche_201
  • Voyager Films . . . and I'll not have the blood of the innocent on my hands. You have your peace and I have mine.
    jawnybnsc
  • True Craig,. in some ways Ricettes could construe that Jimmy Carter was usurping "Their" authority, however, the peace could be so easily settled if the Israelites would "give" a little bit more to the process... I'm for Israel and Palestine coming into the 21st century and solving this mess, once and for all...Live and let live! Even though that is less and less popular in the globalsphere! Beware, peoples of the earth... we are disposable according to powerhungrywarmongers!
    jjmaster
  • We should be watchnig recorded videos to hear the thoughts of Jews and Palestinians who are friends that see eye to eye about the region. How could there be peace if everyone over here tries so hard to polarize the issue and sway facts to support their personal beliefs.

    Taking a side in this issue meansthat you fail to recognize the complexity of this issue. Unfortunately the contribution to this BLOG are juvenile and lack the understanding of history and current events that a minority of Jews and Pelestinians who are friends in Israel/Palestine have.

    Both sides are wrogn and both sides need to work toward peace. However a group like Hamas will never work for that and their only goal is to eliminate Israel at all costs to human life.
    cheaney40z
  • A positive excercise would be to do the following.

    No matter which side you are on, apologize for something immoral that your side has done.

    If everyone apologizes for what they have done wrong, instead of pointing the finger at the other one, we are on our way to peace.
    cheaney40z
  • ok then cheaney start with your own power and apologize for insulting us on this blog, by hello, calling us names and assuming anything about our understanding of history and current events, and well, how did you get here? We're all just being friendly here, exchanging ideas, isn't it?
    jjmaster
  • First of all, Carter is biased. The Carter Center has millions of dollars pouring in from Saudis, and that is the only reason why Carter is so pro-Arab and anti-Israel. Think not? Why did he call his book "Israel: Peace, not Aparteid", when Israel put up the wall to stop terrorist bombers from infiltrating its land, and IT WORKED! Second, Hamas' has no authority to make any deals with Israel, because no government holds any authority in the eyes of the Palestinians. Even if Hamas were to accept Israel as a legitimate state tomorrow, Palestinians would still fire rockets into Israel. The rule of law is not very strong there. Third, for all those who feel sorry for the Palestinians, consider this: the US sends $3 billion in aid to Israel per year, and Israel rewards the US with intelligence, manpower, military training, state of the art military technology, etc. The US, the EU, and many Arab countries send billions upon billions every year to the Palestinians, and it all ends up in the Swiss bank accounts of the Palestinian leadership, the givers get nothing but terrorism and hate as a reward, and the Palestinian people are left hungry and without basic infrastructure. Has anyone looked at the map of Israel lately? It is so small you can hardly find it. Are you telling me that the Arab countries which allege to love the Palestinians so much cannot allow them to immigrate to their country, or to give them a little bit of their land as the new Palestine? At the least, why don't they complain about their wasted aid money? Stop looking for a boogey man people.
    kaivan

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