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Welcome to Spinsylvania. (Population: 2.) The outcome of today's long-awaited Keystone State primary wasn't, in the end, decided at the ballot box—even though Clinton posted a gritty 55-45 victory over her rival from Illinois. Clinton wasn't expected to close the gap of 150 pledged delegates and 800,000 popular votes separating her from Obama—and she didn't. Obama wasn't expected to overcome Clinton's 20-point head start in the polls, or her inherent demographic advantages—and he didn't. So when the polls closed and the dust settled in Pennsylvania, it wasn't the tallies and totals that mattered most; the key numbers didn't change. But the battle over the narrative may have. No matter what happens in the remaining primaries, neither Clinton nor Obama can clinch the nomination on pledged delegates alone. Which means that the stories they tell to sway undecided superdelegates—the only voters with the power, at this point, to put one of the two Democratic candidates over the top—will largely shape the race in the coming weeks. And for both Democrats, Pennsylvania will serve, in some sense, as Exhibit A.
Aboard Air Obama this evening, chief strategist David Axelrod sported a T-shirt that compressed his candidate's case to a simple slogan: "Stop the Drama, Vote Obama."
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Well, Since I have just heard about the North American Union Act... Served up as another Bush special, I want some feedback on it from McCain, Obama, and Clinton... I really want some answers on this issue... Is Lou Dobbs the only one privy to it... If this is in place, We are in for changes that really affect our liberties far beyond our current humanistic vents...OMG Please respond if you have knowledge about this CHANGE!
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I have to get that shirt.
The superdelegates have a lot to think about. Clinton didn't come off looking too great from PA so we'll see what she does to beef up her image and Obama just needs to stick to the game plan and not be caught calling anyone bitter.
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Hillary is the most recongized name on any ballot in America.
Hillary is married to one of the most beloved Presidents of all time.
Hillary has more political connections than any candiate in recent history.
And the BEST she can manage is to "win" 55/45 against an all-but-unknown black Sen. with a funny Muslim sounding name.
55/45?
That's it?
The arguement Hillary is making is that the super delegates should overturn the contests because she is "more popular" than Obama even though the most universally known (and best politcally connected) candidate in history can only beat the unknown black Sen. for Illinois by 55/45?
Seriously?
These "victories" of her's only prove how little support she really has among the Dems! And if the Dems aren't voting for a Clinton legacy than what makes her think former Bushies and Independents will vote for her over McCain?
Come back down earth Hillary.
You wouldn't even be getting 55/45 "wins" if you weren't married to Bill Clinton. Without him there is no way in hell anyone would a) know who the you are and b) put up with your "personality"
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Not to mention that Bill Clinton just keeps getting weirder and weirder the longer this primary drags on.
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- Phonoballoons
- 8 months ago
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Crob80227 - 55/45 is pretty impressive to me given that Clinton was outspent by 3 to 1 and Obama solidly carried the Afrian American votes by 9-1, yet lost by a whopping 10%. How is Obama an "unknown black senator" when he is able to out raise Clinton by millions and attract a 34,000 crowd his most recent rally?
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- TooPolitical
- 8 months ago
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Clinton originally had a 20 percent lead over Obama in PA -- until Obama actually started campaigning in earnest!
Hillary's lead than SHRANK dramatically.
Obama began this campaign (15 months ago) as a total unknown compared to Hillary who began as a household name. Heck, people were voting for Bill Clinton as much as they were voting for Hillary.
Obama is drawing bigger crowds and raising more money then one of the Clinton's -- the Clinton's! Bill and Hillary are arguably the closest thing we have to royalty here in the states and she's being outdone by Obama on every single metric.
Basically, if Hillary was as beloved as she seems to think she is we wouldn't be seeing this happen, would we?
She wouldn't be behind when it comes to raising money.
She wouldn't be 2nd place when it comes to the crowds that comes to see her speak. (Obama seems to set new records every day)
She wouldn't be barely managing 55/45 victories over a guy who no one had even heard of 15 months ago.
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Clinton may be a known commodity, but it also presents certain disadvantages -i.e. baggages come with her husband's policies and administration, Monica Lewinsky, etc. On the other hand, when Obama burst into the political scene, he was covered by the media favorably and millions flocked to his perceived "freshness."
I would argue the differences between the two candidates were not advantages/disadvantages of name recognition, but the political machine that came with it. On that front, Clinton had a huge advantage but squandered it. Obama ran an awesome grass roots campaign that carried him this far.
Given the odds against Clinton - outspent, trailing in delegates and popular votes, written political obituaries, lost of superdelegates, she managed to win convincingly. Credit should be given where credit is due. She won.
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- TooPolitical
- 8 months ago
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NEITHER ONE OF THESE CANDIDATES HAVE OUTDONE THE OTHER BY MUCH... AND NEITHER HAVE ENOUGH OF ANYTHING TO CLENCH THE NOMINATION AT THIS POINT... PERHAPS OBAMA SHOULD JUST QUIT... HELLO, AS IT STANDS NOW IF HILLARY HAS MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA, THEY ARE NECK AND NECK... THE DMC WILL HAVE TO REBEND AGAIN THE RULES... WHAT THE HECK... THIS IS OUR VOTING PROCESS... OMG!
