Scientist: Forget global warming, prepare for new ice age
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Sunspot activity has not resumed up after hitting an 11-year low in March last year, raising fears that — far from warming — the globe is about to return to an Ice Age, says an Australian-American scientist.
Physicist Phil Chapman, the first native-born Australian to become an astronaut with NASA [he became an American citizen to join up, though he never went into space], said pictures from the U.S. Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) showed no spots on the sun.
He said the world cooled quickly between January last year and January this year, by about 0.7 degrees Centigrade.
"This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record, and it puts us back to where we were in 1930," Chapman wrote in The Australian Wednesday. "If the temperature does not soon recover, we will have to conclude that global warming is over."
The Bureau of Meteorology says temperatures in Australia have been warmer than the 1960-90 average since the late 1970s, barring a couple of cooler years, and are now 0.3 degrees Centigrade higher than the long-term average.
A sunspot is a region on the sun that is cooler than the rest and appears dark.
An alternative theory of global warming is that a strong solar magnetic field, when there is plenty of sunspot activity, protects the Earth from cosmic rays, cutting cloud formation, but that when the field is weak — during low sunspot activity — the rays can penetrate into the lower atmosphere and cloud cover increases, cooling the surface.
But scientists from the U.S. National Centre for Atmospheric Research in Bolder, Colorado published a report in 2006 that showed the sun had a negligible effect on climate change.
The researchers wrote in the journal Nature that the sun's brightness varied by only 0.07 percent over 11-year sunspot cycles, and that that was far too little to account for the rise in temperatures since the Industrial Revolution.
Chapman proposes preventive, or delaying, moves to slow the cooling, such as bulldozing Siberian and Canadian snow to make it dirty and less reflective.
"My guess is that the odds are now at least 50:50 that we will see significant cooling rather than warming in coming decades," he writes.
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Physicist Phil Chapman, the first native-born Australian to become an astronaut with NASA [he became an American citizen to join up, though he never went into space], said pictures from the U.S. Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) showed no spots on the sun.
He said the world cooled quickly between January last year and January this year, by about 0.7 degrees Centigrade.
"This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record, and it puts us back to where we were in 1930," Chapman wrote in The Australian Wednesday. "If the temperature does not soon recover, we will have to conclude that global warming is over."
The Bureau of Meteorology says temperatures in Australia have been warmer than the 1960-90 average since the late 1970s, barring a couple of cooler years, and are now 0.3 degrees Centigrade higher than the long-term average.
A sunspot is a region on the sun that is cooler than the rest and appears dark.
An alternative theory of global warming is that a strong solar magnetic field, when there is plenty of sunspot activity, protects the Earth from cosmic rays, cutting cloud formation, but that when the field is weak — during low sunspot activity — the rays can penetrate into the lower atmosphere and cloud cover increases, cooling the surface.
But scientists from the U.S. National Centre for Atmospheric Research in Bolder, Colorado published a report in 2006 that showed the sun had a negligible effect on climate change.
The researchers wrote in the journal Nature that the sun's brightness varied by only 0.07 percent over 11-year sunspot cycles, and that that was far too little to account for the rise in temperatures since the Industrial Revolution.
Chapman proposes preventive, or delaying, moves to slow the cooling, such as bulldozing Siberian and Canadian snow to make it dirty and less reflective.
"My guess is that the odds are now at least 50:50 that we will see significant cooling rather than warming in coming decades," he writes.
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- addctd2whticnsay
- 2 months ago
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Interesting.
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Well, until there are no longer stories about arctic and anarctic ice sheets breaking off, Greenland melting and permafrost thawing, this is just wishful thinking.
There is just too much evidence, minus the sunspot activity, that we're (humans) artificially inflating earth's temperature. -
Thank you Fox News for providing a scientist, with these viewpoints.
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- joshuaheller
- 2 months ago
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This story came from Fox News. Not the most reliable source.
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Despite the “Human” activity which evident, we might be artificially accelerating a cyclic glaciation process. The most recent ice age ended about 11,000 years ago. No one knows is all about simulation and predictions.
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- hyperbrand
- 2 months ago
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Hmm
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- ohmankidvicious
- 2 months ago
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Check this out... Northern hemisphere glaciation during the last ice ages. The set up of 3 to 4 km thick ice sheets caused a sea level lowering of about 120 m.
Image Source: Wikimedia Commons
Just imagine what will take to evacuate of those people on the northen regions of the US at least.-
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- hyperbrand
- 2 months ago
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well Gore even siad that an ice age is possible from this global warming process if enough glaaciers melt and mess up the ocean current then europe and other places are in trouble
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- DivinePerspective
- 2 months ago
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shit, looks like i'll have to buy a new coat..:[
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uh hello....the story is from fox news! whatever... crackpot science stories concocted from right wing thinktanks are nothing new
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These people at Woods Hole are great. They have always said there may be an ice age. Normally, the superficial layers of the Gulf Stream waters are salty and warm and move north toward Greenland. As they approach Greenland, the water cools, the heat is removed through evaporation and moves east on the jet stream to warm western Europe. The remaining water that has now lost it's heat sinks deep into the lower layers of the ocean because of it's high, heavy salt content. This sinking occurs at 5 billion gallons/second and is what drives the global ocean conveyor belt. With global warming, Greenland melts, adding fresh water into the system. Because the water is now diluted (i.e. no longer salty, it doesn't dive down and the whole conveyor belt stops. Because everything is halted, there is no longer heat coming up into the northern part of the gulf stream and western Europe moves into an ice age. This was also in Al Gore's movie but just not a lot of emphasis was placed on it. IT ALL STARTS WITH GLOBAL WARMING (i.e. greenhouse gas pollution). It's taken Fox news four years to catch on and spin the information! The right wing is using the "ice age" part to say there is no global warming and that we don't have to cut emissions. The part they leave out is that THE EMISSIONS ARE WHAT IS CAUSING THE ICE AGE IN THE FIRST PLACE. So we still have to cut emissions. Global Climate Change is the more accurate term.
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Another sensationalist environmental scare. *sigh*
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I heard on the radio the Woods Hole people are in Greenland NOW studying the melting. They are trying to figure out if the melting fresh water is staying contained on land or if it is actually reaching the ocean.
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FOX = NEWS as BUSH = LEADER
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- stephenthomson
- 2 months ago
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What? I am shocked!
I thuoght for sure someone on here was going to blame George Bush's "Reign of Terror" for the Sun not creating sun spots. Here I'll do it for all you Bush Hating BUSH Bashers
Dang him for creating environmental havoc here on Earth and causing the Sun to slow down making sun spots there by cooling the earth, there by plunging us into another ICE AGE, lowering the amount of food that is produced by farmers, destroying the vegetarians diet, there by starving countless thousands of peace loving, war hating vegetarians. Of Course since these are the most inteligent and most college educated among us, Bush's actions plungs our world into another Dark Age. Of my gosh, we have connected the dots, I bet Chenney is in on this too, there by making a conspiracy of the mass murder of all vegetairans and the destruction of our Higher learning facilities. Damm you, Mr. President. Damm YOU! -
ah they're just guessing. they don't have enough data to figure out what's happening. 700 years ago Europe when through a very cold period, you can google that shit. it lasted for maybe 80 years, than the planet warmed up again. It is a fact that humans are harming the planet, but any scientists that claims he knows by how much is fooling you.
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"My guess is that the odds are now at least 50:50 that we will see significant cooling rather than warming in coming decades..." I don't know, I find that that sentence makes me agree that Fox News is completely unreliable... I think I could make a guess as good as that one even if I was not a scientist... " Think there's a chance that things will change, and a chance that it won't. Thank you."
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watch this comment being used here
I think it's important to point out that only one scientist is making this assertion. The article even points out that critics are saying that the scientist may have been "cherry-picking" the data. Let's see... who do I believe.. an international intergovernmental panel of 100's of scientists who say that the earth is getting warmer or one scientist who says we are about to go into an ice age?
This totally has a sensational headline, but the actual article is not so bad. -
So pack up on sunscreen and heavy blankets just in case?
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- StuntBunny
- 2 months ago
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this makes me feel totally insane.
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The article originally came from the Australian newspaper. Not FOX. Check it out.
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I like the fact that FOX News expends the energy it requires to disregard the entire scientific community in regard to our species' effect on global warming while scouring the earth for opposing opinions and publishing their "findings." What gusto!
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Unfortunately for people unwilling to accept reality everywhere, there is overwhelming evidence that refutes cosmic ray theories such as this. Over the last 20 years since monitoring sun activity, the Sun's output has declined while Earth's temperatures have risen. Modern temperatures are NOT determined by the Sun's effects, and anyone who has taken an elementary meteorology class could explain this to you. Don't believe this crap, it's total garbage.
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The Little Ice Age occured roughly between 1200 and 1850.
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Everybody stay clam while you panic!!!
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- robhill_productions
- 2 months ago
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Lets be selective in the evidence, we would not want anything as problamatic as actuall historically proven evidence to the contrary of our preconcieved notions such as golabal warming.
All the Scientist are making educated guesses. That is what a theory is, an educated GUESS, If it were anything else it would be Scientific LAW, not theory. But again, let's not bother with with any other evidence that would bring down a competing THEORY, such as the THEORY of Global warming -
So far it's one scientist. Also, just because the sun is "cooling down" as it's known to have phases of, that doesn't truly negate the damage we've done and need to work on repairing. Just because the Temperature cools down, we don't need to carry on damaging the ozone layer as we've been doing so diligently over the past 100 - 200 years.
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- silently_sarah
- 2 months ago
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yea i geuss i better get a better coat
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Sorry, but this is one of the biggest loads of cr** I have read. You cannot forget global warming in this equation, because it is the melting glaciers of the Arctic, Greenland, and Antarctica that are precipitating a slowdown in the Gulf Stream. Which then means we are ALREADY experiencing global warming which is actually the catalyst of all of this. To me this guy sounds like just another crackpot sent out by global warming skeptics to try to confuse people about the validity of the studies that have been corroborated by thousands of scientists across the globe that show Co2 levels and temperature increases are occurring. Scientists are now worried about the converyor belt eventually slowing down because of all of the freshwater being pumped into the oceans by MELTING GLACIERS. That IS global warming. But leave it to FOX to continue their neverending effort to dazzle us with rhetoric. And reading up on this Mr. Chapman, he seems to believe the methane under the Arctic is actually an an energy source and is a proponent of nuclear energy.
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- JanforGore
- 2 months ago
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if it brings back wooly mammoths and saber tooth tigers, I'm all for it! -
Global-warming?
Global-cooling?
how about
Global-making-its damn-mind-up-already. ???? -
As a matter of fact, pstuart, The Australian newspaper is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp., which owns Fox News! OH, snap!
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global climate changes are cyclic. i'm just going to laugh in another decade or two when people say, remember global warming? just like we did with the 80's and the imminent "ice age"
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And there you have it folks, straight from Phil Chapman's mouth to your ears. If this guy says it, then it must be true. In light of our new understanding of the planet, I think we should make our mission to spread the gospel. So gas up those SUVs and hit the streets. America will not live in fear of glaciers. We'll just have to blast that Ice Age with as much CO2 as we can muster. We've killed those pesky glaciers once......
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- mcgibson23
- 2 months ago
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Ummmm . . . You all do know that there will be another Ice Age . . . don't you? You do know that this planet has always tended toward catastrophic cooling and has NEVER in 4 billion years had a catastrophic warming event? You know that . . . right? You do know that we are living in the 11-thousandth years of an interglacial period and that interglacial periods usually last about 10k years? The answer to the question "are we headed for an Ice Age" is as indisputable as . . . well . . . the nose on Al Gore's face.
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@jawnybnsc - Yep. We are due. Unless the carbon we've been spewing into the atmosphere for the last 200 years throws the system out of whack...
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So how did the planet's climate correct itself in the past when both CO2 levels and temperature were higher? It's almost like there are bigger mechanisms at work . . . mechanisms that are beyond our comprehension even.
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Oh, the planet's climate did correct itself in the past when both CO2 levels and temperatures were higher - it took tens and even hundreds of thousands of years to do so, according to paleoclimatologists. I don't think we can wait that long, do you?
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- Vierotchka
- 2 months ago
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I say we all cease commenting on this complete BS story and stop giving it credibility... after this comment, of course ;-)
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This is why we should not call it "global warming" - it misses the heart of the issue. The bottom line is that climates are changing - they're being polluted, species are dying, biodiversity is declining, major sal
