We torture, yes, no, maybe?
- added April 25, 2008
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- Marilynn_Murray
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Helen Thomas questions Dana Perino about Bush admitting he signed off on torture. Perino lies like a rug. Makes this American proud of what we are doing. What happened to never do anything you have to lie about?
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- Marilynn_Murray
- 2 months ago
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Go get her Helen. God I love that woman.
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A prop water boarding restraining chair from a very popular series currently airing in the US. This prop was used to "entertain" us. Raises some interesting questions our collective values in the US. We can and will do better. -
Go get her rage. God I love that woman...er...rage are you a woman?
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Yes, She is and I love her too.
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Helen Thomas is one of the last truly honest people, bless her.
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In as sea of corrupt journalism and puppet reporters, she's a shining example of truth and integrity.
Does Perino really think that people are so stupid? Everyone already knows we torture, the Republican shock jocks even endorse it! -
Helen Thomas... A great journalist and activist. And a Hillary Clinton supporter to boot.
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- JanforGore
- 2 months ago
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Yes...almost perfect. (smiley face).
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This torture discussion has gotta stop! We all know we do it! Let's just ban it already.
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- StuntBunny
- 2 months ago
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Over 460 people from reddit.com decided to all chip in and send flowers to Helen Thomas because she is the only one in the media who has the guts to ask about this. One of the more beautiful and brilliant things I've seen online this week.
They raised over $3,890 in under 24 hours. That's a LOT of flowers! -
Oh man! Dana Moron-o got SPANKED. Helen is so right - there's PICTURES of American servicepeople doing the torturing, and they claim there's no torturing? We're being asked to doubt our own eyes?!?! Please.
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StuntBunny, It is against every law known to man. They do it anyway. Now, what do you suggest?
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Jesus Perino can't even dance the little sidestep right!
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Go 'head on, little Momma! Why don't more of the media ask questions like this?
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She represents what journalism was and should be, a rare individual in the field lately.
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She sure had alot of those um hm and ahs, makes me think it is true.
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- SeetherFan
- 2 months ago
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They tortured in our name.
We paid for it with our taxes.
They took pictures.
Impeach and indict.
Helen Thomas is a Goddess.
Still, she has more cojones than all in the Senate and Congress combined.
What are they waiting for?
Senators Obama, Clinton, McCain and the rest of you elected congress people, stop the torture.
Impeach and indict to say America will not torture. -
As much as I detest torture, there is a second opinion as to the legalities of our administration's torture methods in light of the constitution (with which I do not agree, btw).
The constitution prohibits torture within the United States and does not say anything about torture outside of the United States (so far as I know). This being said, it makes a lot of sense that Guantanomo Bay is in Cuba and not, say, right next to Area 51. There was also that one story on Current recently about how we deported people to Jordan so that the torture could be executed there. In all technicalities, (so far as I understand it), our current government has done absolutely nothing unconstitutional in regards to torture.
bunch of weasels, they are. -
I could honestly care less if we torture these people or not. This is coming from someone who has served 15 months deployed to Bagdad. I'm telling you these people are dangerous. There religion makes them do crazy things. If torturing them helps save lives then it sounds like something we need to do. Ask yourself this. If your life hung in the balance on weather one man gave some information about a terrorist act then you would want that information at all costs. It's the same thing on a larger scale. Because it doesent involve you directly your more about to look at it with disgust. You would condone it in a second i if it was your life depending on that information.
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- natedawson
- 2 months ago
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Torture is wrong and serves no purpose.
Testimony resulting from torture is never reliable.
It dehumanizes the torturer, while dehumanizing the victim and undermines the integrity of those in whose name it is done.
Are we so far from nature, that we do not know that this must stop?
This enemy is no worse the enemy America fought in World War II, but our president didn't okay torture.
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No, sorry I wouldn't. I'd rather die with some dignity intact than live because I tortured another person.
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- Marilynn_Murray
- 2 months ago
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Stop torture, restore Haebeus Corpus, restore the first amendment, rescind the patriot act, rescind the domestic surveillance and home grown terrorist act, and indict, impeach, and imprison.
I....I....I am the Angel of Judgment and I will reign fire down upon thee oh, you sons of iniquity...in Washington.
Just a little levity...I was thinking about "Angels in America and the Angel played by Emma Thompson who kept saying I, I, I ...three times in a row.
The three "I"s indict, impeach, imprison -
I would not either.
But the question is itself a false proposition.
Torture is proven to be unreliable.
Torturing people is not required to get intelligence and protect people from violent criminals.
If it were, why do civilized countries outlaw torture?
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Amen, jubal.
Dr. King said, "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it." -
She's old and feisty I love Helen. You know at one time Bush was so mad at her she couldn't even come to the press hearings.
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I'm not the type to have heroes, but I must admit that Helen Thomas comes very close to being one for me.
As for torture - a new Golden Rule: Torture others as you would have others torture you. -
LOL Vierotchka, thanks for the belly laugh
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I loved this. "We have never tortured." "That wasn't my question, how can you deny when there are photos and an admission by the president." "why did he say we didn't knowing we tortured." "Err.....Er....I'm gonna go censor some more science I'm not qualified to question at our sceintific agencies, bye." Ok the last bit isn't real dialogue but its sadly true all the same.
About the censoring of CDC documents relating to health hazards of Climate Change.
"...in the draft there was broad characterizations about climate change science that didn't align with the IPCC. And we have experts and scientists across this administration that can take a look at that testimony and say, this is an error, or this doesn't make sense. And so the decision on behalf of CDC was to focus that testimony on public health benefits -- there are public health benefits to climate change, as well, but both benefits and concerns that somebody like a Dr. Gerberding, who is the expert in the field, could address."
So the white house decided that congressional testimony prepared on the subject of health hazzards associated with Global Warming should focus instead on the Health Benefits of Global Warming and it wasn't censoring or diverting the issue?
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This administration has lied from day one, and has lied continuously. Why haven't we impeached? We wanted to impeach Clinton for something as simple as infidelity, and yet we let Bush lie about nearly drowning innocent men and women. This is not the America I have read about in books.
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Helen is amazing....just goes to show how messed up the Bush administration is! Denying torture when there's ACTUALLY pictorial evidence? Give me a break.
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- skyforsocialchange
- 2 months ago
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Helen knows that several prisoners have died from our torture. One man was hung from a door and beat to death. Every one of his ribs broken. That is not trying to get information! George Bush is a sadist and he gave the torture orders. He represents us. Who among us would do that to another human being? There should be demonstrations in the streets over this. Helen can't do it all. It's up to us to stop them.
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When you torture the terrorists have won. They have made you just like them. They have opened up your own troops to the prospect of the same treatment with impunity. Torture is against international law for a reason. It is INeffective. Only monsters torture.
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- JanforGore
- 2 months ago
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For the next presidential election, we should ditch ABC's debate slot and instead let Helen Thomas grill the candidates.
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Helen Thomas is a true Patriot, willing to ask the questions that really matter. Journalists should watch Helen Thomas and learn from her. True journalists will have a place in history for lighting our way with facts. ‘Talking heads’ will have a place in history for spinning darkness and misinformation. They will go down in history as enablers during these dark times. Helen Thomas is a light that will shine in our history books and hearts forever.
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wow, gives me hope that not everyone with a voice being heard is an idiot. i like this dame :)
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- aBeaUtifulSavAge
- 2 months ago
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The current media is owned by media conglomerates:
Disney
National Amusements
Time Warner
Viacom
News Corp
Bertelsmann AG
Sony
General Electric
Vivendi SA
and Lagardère Group
The FCC just ruled to allow more consolidation.
Reporters are “scared” to ask the tough questions, fearful of loosing their jobs. The lead up to the Iraq war is the quintessential example of this timidity.
This IS the 1984 as Orwell predicted.
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Ok, Let me go ahead and upload all my videos out then. I have been filming and documenting acoustic torture for 7 Years. You will not have a chance to deny that! Just watch some of my social acoustic education movies and you will understand. That is fresh ignorance from the streets of San Francisco. There is no question why or who! Local and National Government Policies has produced an acoustic ground torture using public transportation since 2001 in San Francisco and all over United States. There are any more questions?
