Dean says Clinton or Obama must drop out in June
- added April 28, 2008
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Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean said Monday that either Hillary Rodham Clinton or Barack Obama must drop out of the Democratic presidential race after the June primaries in order to unify the party by the convention and win the election in November.
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He can't make the supers declare before the convention and he can't make either candidate drop out. Either he knows something he's not saying or I want some of what he's smoking!
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I say - since Nancy Pelosi won't put forth the people's mandate to impeach the Busheney dictatorship, let's get him out now by having an early general election!!!!
And, ya, say good bye Hillbillary!-
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- VoyagerFilms
- 5 months ago
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Bye Bye Obama, cya in 8 years
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- sail4life8
- 5 months ago
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While Dean wishes for a candidate to back down by June, it is highly unlikely either candidate will. The math is in Obama's favor, but Hillary is doing every thing she can to persuade the public she is winning, even if her math is fuzzy.
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How would Obama be most likely to leave, given that he is leading all the numbers?
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i don't underand why someone needs to drop out - it seems more interesting to have it neck and neck so that more meaningful and interesting dialoguing and debating would happen.
Aren't the primaries and the convention set up to "elect" someone as the democratic nomination?
There should be a fight to the finish!! -
Good luck with that Howard. She is in it to win it.
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"This is not about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama," Dean added. "This is about our country. It's about a better course for our country. ... We've got to move on and win the presidency."
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This is what it's about people. Regardless of which candidate you prefer, it's about winning back the Presidency and bringing our country closer to what we believe it can be.
Obama's nomination is inevitable. The great divide between the Democratic party is not.
Step down Hillary. You're causing more harm than good.
Obama/Clinton 2008!! -
It is about winning back the Presidency and he has zero chance of doing that. The party is divided, liberals against moderates, like it or not. It is a shorter step for moderates to go to McCain than to Obama.
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Dean needs to reach up his skirt and grab his nads. He's a little late to the party, again. This farce of a primary needs to be over NOW so we can get on about the business of taking on Sen. McCain.
Sen. Clinton is in it to "SPIN" it and that's not serving anyone but herself and Bill at this point. Her continued presence hurts our chances for victory in Nov. -
Liberals are going to vote for the democratic candidate no matter what, and Obama gets more moderates than Clinton does. If she somehow gets the nomination then you'll see all those moderates go to McCain and then he'll win. Every indication is that this is true. JohnA, I'm not really sure what you're even saying. Clinton is getting very few moderates compared to McCain or Obama. It's logic: if Obama is taken out of the equation, then they'll just go to McCain.
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"if Obama is taken out of the equation, then they'll just go to McCain"
At least some moderates will switch to McCain. More importantly, Blacks will stay home. The Dems cannot win swing states like Ohio or PA if the blacks stay home. -
I agree with jarret that it should come down to the convention, that what it's supposed to be for.
seeker is right Dean doesn't have the right to do that, hopefully he'll share what he knows or what he's smoking
What's the rush between now and August? What difference does it make if the nomination is forced to be determined now or when it's supposed to be at the convention?
How many people are going to change their vote in November from a couple of months? From comments I've been reading so far it seems to be fairly polarized already, most people have made up their minds. -
I pray to Ramtha he/Obama doesn't pick Richardson, he can do better then someone who considers homosexuality a "choice"
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- rabidlemur
- 5 months ago
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Time to go Hill....time to go..
The Democratic party needs to heal, we need to stop fighting, we need to show the world, that we want to live in peace and harmony.
Obama is the healer... -
This is another reason why a two party system sucks.
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I don't think he really meant it or he would have ended his comments with a big "BYAW!"
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- marcozarco
- 5 months ago
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Howard Dean lost the right to tell Democratic voters what to do when he agreed to the rules that made Florida and Michigan votes not count.
Dean is a perfect example of how a candidate can self-destruct in a moment live on television.
Nothing is inevitable.
Since Dean's exhuberant primary victory speech became viral and was twisted by the media to make him unelectable, he's become an automaton in a grey suit who's afraid to move any part of his face or body besides his mouth. He's been a poor leader of the party.
Dean says we have to be done by July. Well, it's only April and almost 50 % of us want to see more debates one on one between the 2 candidates.
The stakes are very high. Senator Obama's and David Axelrod's relationship with Excelon and Bill Richardson send a frightening signal to those in the Four Corners and areas where renewed uranium mining is now being pushed.
I hope you will watch this video, and consider the life and death issues involved.
http://current.com/items/88905690_leetso_the_powerful_y...
Imagine it is your family who lives
near the uranium mine.
Then tell us why you still think Obama should be president after how he already killed his senate bill to protect Americans from the nuclear power industry.
This happened and will happen again in Governor Bill Richardson's state of New Mexico.
Watch The Yellow Monster again, then tell us why you think an Obama/Richardson ticket is such a good idea. -
Ask the parents of children with pediatric cancer in Illinois who asked Obama to help them protect the rest of their families from radioactive leaks from Excelon nuclear plants, if they think Senator Obama is a healer.
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Actually, it doesn't hurt the democrats to have them going at it. It strengthens them - it's really just one long campaign for the Presidency - does not matter if Obama is opposite Hillbillary or McBain.
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- VoyagerFilms
- 5 months ago
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Nobody needs to drop out. The reason this presidential nomination race is so heated is because people realize whomever wins is the next president.
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thank you Mr. Chairman.
Please continue the pressure.
I don't know what the super delegates are for if not to resolve stalemates such as we are seeing now.
if all these cowardly superdelegates are not caring enough to be counted to stop the damage to the party, then what are they good for?
they are making a major mistake, and i hope fellow voters will remeber these indecisive bunch. i sure will. -
One would hope that if Mrs. Clinton withdraws (or loses to Obama) that she and her husband would ACTIVELY
campaign in the fall. A lot of us feel that the debacle of
the last eight years might have been averted with the Clintons campaigning for Gore or Kerry. -
Maybe if Hilary weren't working for the republicans, then we would see some progress
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Both Clintons campaigned for both Gore and Kerry. Were you sleeping through 2000 and 2004? I was there in Santa Fe and took pictures. Bill Clinton would have campaigned more for Al Gore, but he wasn't invited much because the dems wanted to distance themselves from Clinton over sex.
Big mistake. They forgot the people love Bill Clinton. If you've met him, shook his hand and looked into his eyes, you'd know why. He's very genuine. He was the first American president who ever came to the Institute of American Indian Arts Museum when I was guest curator there in the fall of 2000. He did a fundraiser across the street and came to the museum instead of to a fancy sit down gourmet lunch at the restaurant nearby. Clinton chatted and joked about being part Cherokee and took time to meet and talk with the entire staff and my 10 year old daughter. He looked at everything, made sure to get a present for his wife and daughter from the gift shop, then ate his dinner in the limo on the way to the airport in take-out containers. He is very much the boy devoted to his single mom from Hope, Arkansas. The other thing they forgot was that for most people, especially the poor, middle class, Blacks and people of color in general, the Clinton years were the most prosperous and peaceful in their memory. The election might not have been close enough to steal if Al Gore had campaigned full speed with Bill and Hillary Clinton. The dem party leaders miscalculated yet again. They worried so much about the rage of the religious right that they didn't factor that there was a sizeable part of the electorate that was waiting for either Bill Clinton or Al Gore to say, enough, people's personal sexual life's between consenting adults is none of anyone's business and it is a violation of civil rights to violate that privacy. We are not in Puritan Massachussetts where adulterers were put in pillories and forced to sew a scarlet letter on their bodice. Or are we? If Bill Clinton failed Americans at all, it is that he didn't stand up for personal sexual privacy and lied instead. Look where that has led us. Elliot Spitzer, who erred in going to a prostitute, is immediately removed from office, when he has been one of the most effective and dedicated public servants fighting pollution and helping to clean up the Hudson River and indicting corrupt thieves on Wall Street who siphon off the savings of American families. Elliot Spitzer got laid, and New York and America got screwed. Is this morality? The robber barons stealing American families' wealth in their home in the foreclosure crisis are the immoral ones. What they did and do is really obscene. Why are the dems afraid to stand up to this? Why do Jeff Gaynor's hundreds of visits to GW Bush's White House and undeserved press pass get ignored? Why isn't Howard Dean leading the party to rein in the McCarthy-era like sex police? Where is Governor Dean's outrage when the House Speaker Nancy Pelosi ignores the will of over 75% of the voters and keeps funding this illegal, immoral war? -
is TouchArt on the Billary Bus?
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Guess we can't hope for more than a moment without name calling.
Constantly impressed with the high level of discourse that pours from the Obama supporters. Testimony to the kind of change he inspires. -
the generalizations of obama supporters and clinton supporters are disgusting
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- keeshii768
- 5 months ago
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Its sad that we are this far in to the election and still lost with labels (Dem., Rep.) These two politicians have both not honestly proposed any type of plan for their presidency, and everyone is being sold on status quo topics like the War in Iraq and Health Care. I thought I was a Democrat but I want less government, not a one world government, which these two are on the payroll to have on their agenda. Who are they working for? The Federal Reserve and the Council on Foreign Relations. If they really cared about this country then they would drop out or start getting real like Dr. Ron Paul. Seriously if you have time to read through these articles and blogs then do some research on anything I've mentioned. Google and youtube are good enough for beginners. The two democratic candidates will keep the North American Union on track. No matter what either say, they are both tied to special interest groups, though Hillary has had a little more experience in that region ;) check her affiliation with the Bilderberg Group.
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- Mr_Green_Khalid
- 5 months ago
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The last I checked, both Hillary and Obama were democrats. One would think we were talking two different parties here. We need someone who can beat McCain and I think Obama is the one that can do that...however hard the Reverend tries to destroy that possibility. Who woulda' thunk.
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They should sit down the two of them in a high school math class, teach them to add, let them put the numbers together, then send that sorry loser Hillary home!
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- BetterWatching
- 5 months ago
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say what?! somebody gotta drop out by june? where does he get off by saying that when the PEOPLE are clearly intrested in seeing more debates between the two candidates...I agree with "seeker561" either he knows something or he can just sit back - relax - and let the people do their job -- DECIDE!.
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See. This is exactly what McCain wants. The Obama/Hillary brawl that goes on in comment boards everywhere. The Democrats are divided. Polls show that if one wins many supporters of the other candidate will vote for the other. Hillary AND Obama supporters are getting unfairly characterized, which makes them become even more likely to be Obama or Hillary partisan.
And us Dems were always saying, after Bush, the Dems have no problem winning the presidency.
Yet somehow we have screwed it up all over again and it is going to be a tight race.
Dean hasn't done jack to help. -
"Thus saith Alex Jones"??? =D hehe
I've never really understood why if we call ourselves a democracy why we MUST only have an indomitable two-party system. To me that's the real travesty. We only argue about what's force-fed to us in modern day politics as usual by controlling interests...much of it is just a carefully orchestrated charade I'm afraid...
And whoever thought Bush and his chronies would turn out to be as bad as they have? I have the SAME fears for all these "front-runners"
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Why wait until June? I'm sick of all the in-house feuding. Let's come together as a party right NOW!
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Obama is finished. His internal pollsters are telling him this is all over. He'll make a speech today, but if things don't radically change by this weekend, we could be looking at one of the most historic collapses ever. He very well could be out of the race next week. Sorry folks, but this party is just about over.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA hahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahah AHAHAHAHAHA....oh man. Good one jawny.
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Hang in there mako . . . It'll be over soon.
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i think you got it wrong jawny.
The party is going to hell.
But Obama and Hill are going to stay in the race for as long as they can.
The Clintons will do anything for power.
And Obama has soooo much money.
So they are just gonna screw each other up.
