Clinton's strategy: Make Obama unelectable

That is absolutely her strategy, either so she can steal the nomination this time around or get McCain elected so she can run in 2012. The problem for her is if that in 2012, a lot of her older supporters may not be around.

Had Hillary spent as much time attacking McCain instead of Obama -- the entire Democratic Party would have been strong and united.

Instead she seems obsessed with "winning" the nomination by any means necessary.

I have this feeling that Hillary has "Scarface" playing on an endless loop on her campaign bus.

That was a very good interview, thanks for sharing.

Poor, poor Obama supporters. Just don't like the fact that everyone doesn't fall in love and follow the messiah? So of course, if anyone doesn't bow to the great new hope of America, they must be desperate, vicious, ferocious, racist, you choose the nasty characterization for those non -believers. God forbid anyone should actually BELIEVE Obama is actually incompetent, inexperienced, ill-informed/confused about who/what they, the non-believer American voter thinks is important. Bottom line, Clinton doesn't need to do anything to undermine Obama....he will do that all by himself. Given that Obama has been involved in a not so secret love affair with the media, it’s amazing that the voters just aren't all jumping on the love train like he and the media want. Maybe voters really aren't as stupid as Obama and his campaign would like to believe they are.
And maybe, just maybe, Obama - the great uniter- is actually the one responsible for creating that "downward spiral" of the Democratic party. After all, he can't win without superdelegats and has done just as much trash talking about Clinton...but I suppose it's acceptable to trash talk about Clinton since everyone does it. After all, she's just a stupid woman and happens to be the wife of that dick Bill Clinton.

Unfortunately the same could be said for any candidate that people believe in.

Ralph Nader has been accused of the same thing on many occasions for many years. So has Ross Perot and Ron Paul.

What makes them any different? God forbid that anyone should BELIEVE that they are incompetent, inexperienced, ill-informed/confused about who/what they, the non-believer American voter thinks is important.

Isn't it the results that count? Not the rhetoric that is spewed around.

I'm finding it difficult to even think about supporting Hillary if she happens to claw her way into the nomination.

Yep, the results DO count...unless, of course, you DON'T count them (FL and Michigan). And neither Clinton nor Obama will have enough delegates to win without superdelegates. So how about letting the people vote and the superdelegates cast their decision, and ditch the rhetoric, as that spewed by Hayden, the subject of this post.
btw, the dems may find themselves in trouble if they DON'T count the Florida votes. That election was certified by the state of FL and the DNC does not have the right to ignore the legitimately cast votes of 1.7milliion FL voters. There are actually folks in the process of making sure Floridians are not denied their right to have their voice heard and their vote counted.

http://www.floridademandsrepresentation.org/

This is not going to go away. There's plenty of time before the convention to make sure FL voters are not illegally ignored. And the more the Obama campaign insists on ignoring these voters, the more he makes it clear he is not interested in the people of FL. This will come back to haunt him and his campaign before it is all over.

I think MM has a point and that's the flaw in the strategy. It's going to hurt Clinton a lot more than Obama and that's what's going to come back to haunt a lot worse the more enemies among the delegates that are made.

It's going to come down to a brokered convention no matter what at this point and even with FL delegates there aren't enough to get a majority on the first ballot.

That's when the strategy falls apart and the results that count are chosen on successive votes. So that none of the fiery passionate sentiments will amout to anything.

Only the tactics to go foward and who will be able to maintain the most broad based support among the whole population not just among democrats. The superdelegates are not going to be happy about Clinton making the democrats look bad when compared to the republicans

"Voters are getting tired of it; it is demeaning the political process; and it does not work. It is past time for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to acknowledge that the negativity, for which she is mostly responsible, does nothing but harm to her, her opponent, her party and the 2008 election"

Which is why that strategy has a fatal flaw that will backfire since it determines the one who uses it to be unfit, because it tries to bring both down with the attitude of "If I can't have it then no one will"

I think Obama has done that to himself. He should have denounced Rev. Wright months ago, now it's too little too late. Obama is toast.

at least leftist liberals and right wing repubs agree on one thing. they both hate clinton

These are the reasons why I was so put off by Clinton. She keeps pulling these George Bushes on Obama and she's just making herself look like the baby that destroys the toys she's been denied from having.

If Obama is toast pass the jelly. Even with the nutty preacher and the negative campaigning against him, he is still the favorite. He handles adversity very well. Looks and behaves presidential.

" ... Obama has done that to himself. He should have denounced Rev. Wright months ago, now it's too little too late."

Please! Wright is not running for anything. Wright is not part of Obama's campaign. Wright isn't even the pastor at the church Obama only marginally attended for 20 years. Wright is as entitled to his opinions as any other citizen guaranteed freedom of expression under the Constitution of the nation for whom he spent 6 years in a Marine uniform.

Obama has actually wasted enough time beating this dead horse to assuage the fears of bigots determined that he is unfit and unvetted. Obama needs to finally accept that the pinheads who swear by Hannity and O'Reilly are not likely to support his candidacy, while the many ethnicities who make up the congregation once pastored by Wright actually will vote for him. He really need not alienate Trinity, Dr. Wright, and other like-minded participants in the democratic discourse to appease and capitulate to stubborn, willfully ignorant, xenophobic Fixed Noise Viewers who are never going to believe that he is anything but an elitist Muslim plant from some madrassa in Africa that advocates terrorism on American soil.