UN: Biofuel production 'criminal path' to global food crisis
- added April 29, 2008
- 17 responses
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- Vierotchka
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- Vierotchka
- 7 months ago
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Your 'fiery' friend is absolutely right. Burning precious and dwindling food resources for fuel is madness.
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People, especially the U.S. government are rushing towards ethanol and other biofuels as the answer to the oil problem, but why can't people realize that the crops to produce biofuel take over land that is used for food crops?
I especially find this quote interesting: "Filling the 25-gallon tank of an SUV with pure ethanol requires over 450 pounds of corn -- which contains enough calories to feed one person for a year."
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Biofuel turned out to be scam. What a disappointment. I agree. Poor nations need the land to produce food to feed their own people. Not to make the highly expensive and wasteful biofuel pyramid scheme.
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- phoenix_fire999
- 7 months ago
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Another problem is that biofuels made from corn or food crops are actually bad for the environment and the only biofuel that actually works is that made from sugarcane!
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bio mass and waste can create bio-fuel. there are low cost feedstocks other than food crops.
anyone making bio-fuel from expensive food sources will simply fall by the wayside and not be able to make a profit.
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- 1Eco_Media
- 7 months ago
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President Bush's mandate requiring that refiners buy 15 billion gallons of corn ethanol by 2015 is contributing to world starvation through higher corn and food prices causing shortages of food. The President's approval rating is now at the lowest record ever since the ratings have been recorded. This sure isn't going to help that rating!
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Yaya, 1Eco_media! Someone thinks around here!
Waste oil is perfectly fine to use for biofuel production, and there is TONS of it out there. Waste oil has NO effect on the global food crisis, unless everyone stops eating fried food AND meat. Then, and only then can we blame biofuels for our food problems
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i think a food crisis as a result of biofuels is unlikely right now given the statistics. what i do think is likely is western countries using crops that would otherwise go to starving countries to make biofuel, that sounds much more up our street and is far more easily ignored :P.
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Biofuels are also not a replacement for petroleum. They need to be seen as a tool to enable us to transition from a fossil fuel addicted society to a sustainable one.
Yes to waste an algae! Sugarcane, although a better fuel source than corn, still isn't a good alternative.
When we run our agriculture model on an industrial scale, yields will continue to decrease and the land will become more degraded as our population increases, and we will be 'up a crick with no paddle' so to speak soon enough.
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for bio fuels, instead of using a crop like corn, a cheaper and more efficient method is hemp.
Hemp is the green solution this world needs.-
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- wehearthawkins
- 7 months ago
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From the large exterior pond link provided....
The big problem has been figuring out how to collect and press the algae.
These are design issues than can be improved with the use of SOLAR and a much smaller footprint.
There is a vertical design I like that allows for collection via high pressure release.
It is important to remember that CO2 is used to help grow the algae and those can be placed near any facility that throws off CO2.
I am in R&D alternative energy Business Development and enjoy talking to anyone about new designs, however these project designs are often best tested for years before reaching commerical stage.
This could have been said about corn based ethanol however the rush to meet demand is often short sighted and ill advised. Keeping your powder dry here is KEY.
The time will come if and when we have progressive leadership to move forward in a very BIG WAY.
And YET until we have a true People's Leadership that time is on HOLD.
Obama provides that however I would not BUILD anything until someone like him was in charge. GORE was such a leader.
This requires ITC and low interest loans. It requires MASSIVE SUPPORT across the board and that is not seen, nor is it seen with the BIG CAP CORP. CROWD.
Methane can be coverted as well. This is waste from waste water treatment. Think BIO to animal to waste.
It's still BIO WASTE.
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- 1Eco_Media
- 7 months ago
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Dude . . . if the idea is so great, why do you need the government to support it? How does that make you any different from the beneficiaries of the Farm Bill, for instance? Why can't you sell it?
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I stand corrected. Not all biofuels are the same. Some have minimal impact on the environment to produce, such as algae, and others are actually helpful to the environment - taking waste cooking oil and turning them into fuel. Otherwise, these oils will just ferment and turn into methane at waste dumps.
It just happens that Bush likes the kinds of biofuels that take a ton of petroleum to produce, such as corn ethanol. He will only do something if it makes the oil men a lot of money.
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- phoenix_fire999
- 7 months ago
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i am guessing you view both farming and alternative energy investment to be extremely easy, almost like investing in the long bond perhaps. Good luck with all of that.
Should all be easy for YOU to sell as you say.
I myself see both as very, very, high risk.
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- 1Eco_Media
- 7 months ago
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