Alaska the new Saudi Arabia?
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- shazo
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Oh no! They want to dig up under the ice and wreck the environment! This can't be good...
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- shazo
- 12 days ago
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Yeah, why do we go through all this trouble: It's costly, it's bad for the environment...Everything we need is right up in the sky! This cartoon sums up our stupidity:
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I support drilling into Alaska because I like low gas prices. Although my opinion isn't popular, at least I'm clear. If you want to complain about gas prices, then support the solution. If you want to complain about the environment, then deal with the expenses. But don't complain about gas prices and then complain about the solution.
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- BleachedBlind
- 12 days ago
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Im all for low gas prices, and theres a way they can still dig and not harm the environment. Its just going to take the right people to get it done.
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- Ice_cream_Man
- 12 days ago
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i think it's a better alternatives for us out there, to save the world.This would cause the devestation of all human life as we know it.Just think about it, how many movies we saw where a scientist comes up with a revolutionary idea and for some reson it back fires.Example, the movie with Will Smith, I am legend''.
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BleachedBlind - you've got it all wrong.
We don't need to drill for more oil to have lower gas prices. It sounds as though you are spreading propaganda - you gotta watch that.
Why that as a solution? You need to exercise that brain of yours. Why not formulating a fuel that allows greater efficiency from internal combustion engines? So, even if the price remained the same, demand would be less. The net result: you'd spend less money on gas - with the added kicker we'd consume less of the stuff and produce less pollutants.
Why not develop more solar sources of energy so that we would not need to transport so much fuel and crude oil? Again, less demand, lower prices, less pollution.
Why not develop the mass transit system? Less demand for fuel, lower prices, less pollution.
There are soooooooooooooooooooo many possible ways to address the issue - why use the logic of a sixth grader?-
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- VoyagerFilms
- 12 days ago
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Even if we use alternative fuels, the price is almost the same as it is for gas now. Unless you can drive a car on air or water, i say dig.
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- Ice_cream_Man
- 12 days ago
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haha digging wont matter...they will still charge... the dancing monkeys
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- KINGSTON916
- 12 days ago
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all that money...could be used to develop alternative fuels. although, i think that the hippies are going a little nuts about how invasive the pipeline would actually be.
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- Cosmo_Plavix
- 12 days ago
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Digging in Alaska will help gas prices go down, for what, a few months? This would be such a waste and provide only temporary benefit.
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Personally I doubt that even if they drilled all the oil the prices would come down, maybe they would slow on how fast they are going up. The only people who would profit would be big oil making yet again record profits, I mean, if they are chargeing what they are now, why would it benefit them to lower the price?
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voyager, you can call it the logic of a 6th grader if you want, but it is just simple economics. As supply goes up, prices go down. I'm not against the development of alternative energy sources, but who is going to pay the hundreds or thousands for my car to be retrofitted to use them? Certainly not me. Unless somebody else is coughing up the money, I'm going to continue to use gasoline.
As for mass transit, like most suburban Americans, my car is the center of my life. If I lived in the city, it would be cheaper and easier to use buses or subways, but those are not a viable option where I live.
You shouldn't assume that everyone is ignorant and stupid because they don't agree with your liberal agenda.-
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- BleachedBlind
- 12 days ago
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Yeah, Voyager, you commie pinko liberal humanist secular tree huggin' evildoer!
If you and your unpatriotic friends have your way, America will develop alternative energy sources, reduce its dependence on fanatics who want to kill us, and be stronger, cleaner, and safer. What on earth are you thinking? What's next on your left-wing agenda? Bringing home the young men and women from Iraq with all their limbs intact?-
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- Cosmo_Plavix
- 12 days ago
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This is a bad move all around.
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Unfortunately, BleachedBlind, oil companies don't follow simple supply and demand curves. They look at the prices consumers are willing to pay, and they charge it. Despite the fact that gas has gone from 1.40 to 3.00+ dollars in the past couple of years, I still see plenty of people buying it. Do you really think they have any incentive to lower them?
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There is no incentive to lower them except for the fact that people and industries are trying to be more fuel efficient because oil prices are so high. Today I saw a news story about some airlines are slowing their planes to save money on fuel. If the planes go slower apparently the will save fuel thus save money. Although things like this are happening I do believe the gas prices will continue to rise but it will come to a point where it will be to expense and people will find ways to use less and thus money or find alternative means.
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No...! Not Alaska...
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- pogschampion
- 12 days ago
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people get so pissy over this its funny. alaska is huge, literally, huge. the only people who will maybe noticing us dig there will be a few polar bears
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Diode,
Only someone with an extremely limited idea of what the world actually is would think that drilling for oil in one place would not affect the whole system. But that's okay- if you don't know much, it isn't a character flaw. it just means you're uneducated, and there is always time to learn to read.
If reading isn't your thing, there are books on tape or DVD. You don't have to spend your life in ignorance, and if you choose to do so, you can always depend on someone else to teach you what you need to know.
You're a very good speller, so I see a potentially bright future for you. Don't be afraid to ask for help. especiallly when you feel afraid, which might be all the time.-
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- Cosmo_Plavix
- 12 days ago
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Ditto, Cosmo.
One could say it might be okay to dig a little because that land is huge. But if it becomes okay now, then of course it'll be okay again later. Alaska is the last frontier. And I'd rather preserve nature so that future generations will live to see what it used to be like.-
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- pogschampion
- 12 days ago
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i think that more people should ride bicycles to work, the grocery store, friends' houses, ect. If you want to look at the issue from an economic standpoint: demand for gas goes down, price goes down.
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- googolplexer
- 12 days ago
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No matter how much of our planet we destroy for more fossil fuels, they will still be gone in the next century. If you think its expensive to rebuild infrastructure now (and screw internal combustion engines entirely, no matter what way you look at it they are inefficient) wait until we have no options left and see how expensive it will be then. I'd rather suck it up now and keep this planet as habitable as possible for a long as possible. We need to RELOCALIZE, folks, and start thinking about the world without oil. We can't run this society on biofuels even if we wanted to, there is no way, so why not start figuring out the alternatives now? If we get a jump on it, maybe we won't end up living in the stone age again.
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the ant farm is going to pay whatever corporations want to charge for gas, food, bottled water, and even fresh air....
they've got this country/society completely bottlenecked and shackled....
what's worse is people would rather sit and debate over getting up and changing.
truth is, there is enough oil in Alaska to fuel our country, at our current fuel consumption, for the next 150+ years.... but yes of course, it would have a negative effect on the planet.... but not so much because of the extraction of the oil.. but more due to the use of it...
to bleachedblind, and this is not an attack at all.. but that mentality of "well who's gonna pay for the change, cause its not me" is what is getting us into this bind of global warming, overpopulation, possible food crisis, and ridiculous politics... change is a horribly daunting wall to try to climb, but sometimes... sometimes.. its benefits are more worth it in the long run then a few thousand AMERICAN dollars... which we could even just charge to a plastic card nowadays thanks to the amazing credit system we've installed....
to drilling Alaska, i say NO. but then again you gotta look at it like this... if our economy crashes and we enter a oil/gas crisis... you know who is going to be the first people up in Alaska using that oil? the elites, not the middle/lower class. we would be stuck in the cold.
i would say there is money to be made in making a more efficient fuel with crude oil, that could be use in retro engines with little or no modifications.
the technologies there, we just spend our money on r&d for ridiculously useless consumer products.-
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- djaudible27
- 12 days ago
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Yes, lets drill through the head of a caribou or to get the oil we need. America has all that we need but the special interest groups won't allow it.
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you know the gov. will get its hands on the oil sooner or later. I think the ones that dont want to drill for it now are smart. The mideast has to run out of oil eventually and when they do we can cash in and maybe even pay off the debt.
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It is a sad day for Alaska. And when Russia starts claiming sea bottom land for itself, I find that unsettling,too. I wish there was an alternative to this future I see; but not at his point and time.
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Hopefully our political system, with its injection of "give a crap" from environmentalist, will bar any further destruction of natural habitats in the arctic region.
The issue is now more obvious than ever that in the interest of the people the shift from allowing energy companies to have their way, and driving the wedge of competition, in the form of more sensible energy products, into their profits needs to be accelerated.
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From my findings there isn't really all that much up there, anywhere from 5.7 to 16.0 billion barrels,the mean being 10.4 billion barrels. Its not worth it to destroy one of the last places on earth untouched by man's filthy hands. Whatever we touch, we destroy. Moving from place to place using up all the resources we can - raping the rest of the ecosystem in the process. The image that we are all bacteria in a petri dish, growing out of control until the all of the resources of this planet are depleted is now a reality. What is it going to take for people to change, and start really thinking about the impact they are making on our home, the Earth?
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- googolplexer
- 11 days ago
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with all the time we could dig there we could find new ways of energy and bring alot more jobs back to this country. And actually save alot more money, time and effort.
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- Cosmo_Plavix
- 10 days ago
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*smacks head* i hate internet conversations because sarcasm doesn't come through very well. neither does lighthearted comments.
cosmo -
i appreciate you trying to "educate" me but take it easy. I'm fully aware of what oil production and drilling entails and its affects on the area.
the majority of posts in this thread are exactly what i was poking fun at...
its funny and i notice this happen a lot on this website. the majority of people seem to think they are smarter than whoever else's opinion negates or opposes their opinion or doesn't make sense to them. i seem to get a lot of flak from the goretool's, calling me dumb, uneducated, heartless i've heard a lot, etc etc and i find it comical, truly, when it really only reflects negatively on the commentator. i love it when people put up an air of civility but when you get behind the facade it's truly just that
cosmo this isn't a burn on you this was just too good of an opportunity to bring it up. you actually are the first person to try to neutrally and honestly help somebody else and i appreciate the apparent effort so please don't take it the wrong way -
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- Vierotchka
- 8 days ago
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diode, you bring it onto yourself with your outrageous and psychopathic statements and declarations, and, fully in keeping with the style, you will blame everyone but yourself.
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- Vierotchka
- 8 days ago
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Well, back to the topic...as a citizen of the earth, I'm willing to pay more at the pump to save Alaska. Fossil fuels, by their very nature, are finite. Let's find alternatives and leave some parts of our planet alone.
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- LindaBusiness
- 5 days ago
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