Don't be deceived, there's no such thing as 'clean coal'
- added May 4, 2008
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- JanforGore
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Let's be real: "Clean coal" is a marketing slogan not a technological reality. Coal does currently provide us with a reliable source of electricity but at an astronomical price that is hidden from us consumers.
Maybe you pay for it with your child's asthma. Maybe you paid for it with your father's heart attack or your grandmother's stroke that took her speech away. Maybe you lost a baby to SIDS on a particularly bad air day.
Emissions from coal-fired power plants are a leading cause of smog, acid rain, global warming, air toxins - and premature deaths. The EPA estimates that over 30,000 Americans are dying prematurely each year due to emissions from power plants, the majority of which are coal-powered.
This doesn't even address the high mortality rates associated with the mining process.
Thus, coal kills more people annually than homicides (16,000 in 2000) or AIDS (14,000) and nearly as many as traffic accidents (42,000). So when coal industry advocates like Joe Lucas, vice president of communications for the American Coalition for Clean Coal, and Bountiful resident Bruce Taylor, co-owner of the proposed coal plant in Sevier County, say "cleaner coal," what exactly do they mean?
According to the Union of Concerned Scientists, a typical coal plant annually generates:
* 3.7 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2),
the primary human cause of global warming,
* 10,000 tons of sulfur dioxide (SO2),
* 500 tons of small airborne particles, which can cause chronic bronchitis, aggravated asthma, and premature death,
* 10,200 tons of nitrogen oxide (NOx), equal to what would be emitted by half a million late-model cars. NOx leads to formation of ozone (smog) which inflames the lungs,
* 720 tons of carbon monoxide (CO), which causes headaches and places additional stress on people with heart disease,
* 220 tons of hydrocarbons, volatile organic compounds (VOC), which form ozone,
* 170 pounds of mercury, an extremely potent neurotoxin; just 1/70th of a teaspoon deposited on a 25-acre lake can make the fish unsafe for human consumption. The Great Salt Lake is already heavily contaminated with mercury.
* 225 pounds of arsenic, which will cause cancer in one out of 100 people who regularly drink water containing 50 parts per billion,
* 114 pounds of lead, 4 pounds of cadmium, other toxic heavy metals, and trace amounts of uranium.
None of these numbers sounds "clean" to me. So, does coal advocate Lucas consider a "clean" coal plant to produce only 7,000 pounds of annual sulfur dioxide emissions instead of 10,000 pounds? Does he consider 2 million tons of carbon dioxide instead of 3.7 million tons to be "clean" or how about 120 pounds of mercury instead of 170 pounds? Does "clean" coal only cause 20,000 premature deaths annually as compared to 30,000?
The reality is coal is dirty and will likely remain so.
Maybe you pay for it with your child's asthma. Maybe you paid for it with your father's heart attack or your grandmother's stroke that took her speech away. Maybe you lost a baby to SIDS on a particularly bad air day.
Emissions from coal-fired power plants are a leading cause of smog, acid rain, global warming, air toxins - and premature deaths. The EPA estimates that over 30,000 Americans are dying prematurely each year due to emissions from power plants, the majority of which are coal-powered.
This doesn't even address the high mortality rates associated with the mining process.
Thus, coal kills more people annually than homicides (16,000 in 2000) or AIDS (14,000) and nearly as many as traffic accidents (42,000). So when coal industry advocates like Joe Lucas, vice president of communications for the American Coalition for Clean Coal, and Bountiful resident Bruce Taylor, co-owner of the proposed coal plant in Sevier County, say "cleaner coal," what exactly do they mean?
According to the Union of Concerned Scientists, a typical coal plant annually generates:
* 3.7 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2),
the primary human cause of global warming,
* 10,000 tons of sulfur dioxide (SO2),
* 500 tons of small airborne particles, which can cause chronic bronchitis, aggravated asthma, and premature death,
* 10,200 tons of nitrogen oxide (NOx), equal to what would be emitted by half a million late-model cars. NOx leads to formation of ozone (smog) which inflames the lungs,
* 720 tons of carbon monoxide (CO), which causes headaches and places additional stress on people with heart disease,
* 220 tons of hydrocarbons, volatile organic compounds (VOC), which form ozone,
* 170 pounds of mercury, an extremely potent neurotoxin; just 1/70th of a teaspoon deposited on a 25-acre lake can make the fish unsafe for human consumption. The Great Salt Lake is already heavily contaminated with mercury.
* 225 pounds of arsenic, which will cause cancer in one out of 100 people who regularly drink water containing 50 parts per billion,
* 114 pounds of lead, 4 pounds of cadmium, other toxic heavy metals, and trace amounts of uranium.
None of these numbers sounds "clean" to me. So, does coal advocate Lucas consider a "clean" coal plant to produce only 7,000 pounds of annual sulfur dioxide emissions instead of 10,000 pounds? Does he consider 2 million tons of carbon dioxide instead of 3.7 million tons to be "clean" or how about 120 pounds of mercury instead of 170 pounds? Does "clean" coal only cause 20,000 premature deaths annually as compared to 30,000?
The reality is coal is dirty and will likely remain so.
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- JanforGore
- 2 months ago
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China is also one of the world's worst polluters. And coal is the main source.
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- JanforGore
- 2 months ago
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Burning The Future: Coal In America/
I hope the presidential candidates watch this.They all have touted "clean coal" on the campaign trail to pander to coal companies.-
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- JanforGore
- 2 months ago
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Agree, but China's CO2 output doesn't even match ours. We do need a President to take leadership in reusable energy (if he/she can get passed some of the corrupt senators and their lobbyist.)
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- surfpub2001
- 2 months ago
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Well, that remains to be seen.They have all (meaning Obama, Clinton, and McCain) so far touted "clean coal" and Obama even touted liquid coal which is even dirtier... that is until environmental groups took it to him on that and he had to do an about face. So I do wonder just how much they say about the environment they really mean. People are dying here. We don't have time for them to play politics.
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- JanforGore
- 2 months ago
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And just to add, this direclty relates as well to their healthcare plans. The environment directly affects health, so for people to say the environment is not an important issue, well, that is just not true. It is all related.
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- JanforGore
- 2 months ago
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Clean Coal! That's an oxymoron.
Chemically washing off coal will not stop or reduce the
the release of carbon dioxide and methane, both of which are greenhouse gases.
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- aditijjoshi
- 2 months ago
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Jan,
I was just about to quote Al Gore, and then I saw your name. Lol. I saw him speak two nights ago and he said, "Clean coal is like a healthy cigarette!"
CARBON TAX-CARBON TAX! Ugh!!! If big companies want to dirty our air, continue killing people and NOT change their ways, then they should PAY FOR IT, big time!!!!!!!!!!!! We shouldn't HAVE TO!!!
I understand these are not statistics huge plant owners want to hear, but their pay checks look sooo good, so they continue on. Don't they think of their children and grandchildren and what the condition of our planet will be, if they don't change NOW?!!? :(-
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- organized_chaos
- 2 months ago
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I agree with you totally, Jan. Lester Brown of earthpolicy.org has said we need to halt any further construction of coal-fired power plants. China has now surpassed the U.S. in total emissions, but our per capita emissions (24 tons/person) dwarf the Chinese (5 tons)
Isn't it time we take responsibility for the fact that the U.S. is 5% of world population and emits 25% of all Greenhouse Gases. Historically, we are responsible for 29% of all GHG that have been added to the atmosphere. -
Thank you! I couldn't believe it when I saw the first "clean coal" commercial on American tv. Using children to talk like clean coal is the future and they have it all figured out... just despicable. If the population were better educated, they wouldn't swallow so much garbage.
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thanks Jan...I could go on for about a day on this...but you folks have covered it well.
I had an opportunity to watch Burning the Future and hear David Novack speak immediately afterwards. What we learn is alarming and ugly. And to top it off, the miners adn Appalacian towns are really hurt by the pollution and destruction of their lands.
The devastation to the environment is real...what they are touting as clean coal is cleaner...to burn. The arsenic and other toxic are reduced in the processing. And then left in ponds that seep into the ground water. Historic water tables and stream are being filled in a process called valley fill...WTF!
The wake up call has to be to individuals. While many think of industry as the primary user, this is absolutely false. 97% coal used in the US is for electrical generation...so turn your lights down!
Check my video's for the interview from the AFI Dallas International film festival. Go to www.burningthefuture.org to learn more.
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James Hanson of NASA also speaks out against any new coal fired plants. Of course, for him and many others they say there should be a moratorium until sequestration of CO2 is perfected. I myself am against that as well because it allows coal companies to continue the same behavior, and what really is the difference between putting the Co2 and other toxins in the atmosphere as opposed to putting it in the ground especially where groundwater sources are involved? It is also a technology that is said to be years away, and I am sure one that coal companies will fight hard not to have... and if they do, it will be consumers who will pay for it. And what agency or who would enforce that companies across the country would abide by the law in sequestering it properly? We need to wean ourselves off of these dirty energies now by aggressive marketing of solar and other alternate energies and legislating caps in Co2, and yes, a carbon tax is really what would do that.
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- JanforGore
- 2 months ago
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jimmyp: Thanks, I'll do that. And yes, it is all a smoke and mirrors game.
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- JanforGore
- 2 months ago
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Coal isn't necessarily clean...It's just CHEAP. Unfortunatley in countries like China, many chose it over other electricity and heat sources...I mean honestly, wouldn't you do what you had to, in order to survive easier? It may be sad, but it's true.
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- MissJonaLyn
- 2 months ago
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Another informative link about the health issues of coal for energy from JanforGore. Thanks again Jan.
Ask why the coal energy industry is spending millions on advertising "clean coal"?
Photo of Shima's Grandchildren's Shoes Dry" by S. Barry Paisner c.1987 -
BradH, you're truly a master debator!
Thanks for posting this, Jan! Definately some good information all around here!
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- SamuraiDave
- 2 months ago
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As Freidman put it in one of his lectures..."there can't be a revolution without someone getting hurt.." he claims we are not in a green revolution as many claim, but rather we are having a green "party..." dont change the lightbulbs, change the leaderships was his ending point...in order for us to GO GREEN someone needs to be stopped, taken out of power, shut-down etc...but finding that "someone" is the root of the revolution...
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yes, the coal industry is spending millions (that could be going to alternate energy if they really cared about the planet) on deceptive crap like this from front organizations. And using coal is not cheap when you count in the damage done to this planet and the health of its citizens. But then, those in the coal industry raking in the money don't give a damn about that. There is no good side to burning coal.
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- JanforGore
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Very informative video about the health effects of burning coal and the lie of clean coal technology and the unfeasibility of coal and nuclear. Unfortunately, the only presidential candidate who spoke out for a moratorium on new coal fired plants and nuclear, John Edwards, is no longer in this. I don't think it is a stretch to know one reason why.
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- JanforGore
- 2 months ago
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Great Jan, Keep hitting them with the truth! Nothing better than the truth to wake people up. We just have to plan to build a better TV program so we can reach a bigger audience all over US. Maybe we can talk about that! I was watching the History channel the other day and I find their way to air environmental issues very good. We should do better than we are doing right now on Current TV.
I know the TV make their money by airing the ADs. On that, they have proved to me that they can make money from "junk" programming already. I would like them to prove me that they can make money with environmental news, tips and ideas to change the Culture of Chaos perceptions of destruction into something that is constructive based in all these three values. 1. It has to be healthy, 2. It has to be Safe, 3. It has to be Clean! Looks like teaching them Education and Respect to end their arrogance is the way to go!
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