New ocean current discovered
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Information about the effects of global warming on salinity/nutrients levels in the sea and how it's going to effect us on a large scale soon.
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- KeithdaSneith
- 12 days ago
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The currents are an integral part of the computer system controlling all of the world's climates, so as they change, the climate will change. Now that we're seeing drastic effects on ocean currents, people should really start to wake up.
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Ocean currents play an pivotal role in climate control. Its alarming, appaling and worrysome that a relatively small percentage of people have only just started comprehending the importance of global warming and environment preservation.
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- aditijjoshi
- 12 days ago
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Very scary. Whats even more is the fact that some people still deny that this is even happening.
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- natedawson
- 12 days ago
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So this is a "new" current, or just a current that wasn't identified before?
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yeah we are pretty much screwed and no one gives a rats butt. I however do and believe that one man does not make a difference, but one man making a difference matters.
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New currents are always being discussed on current.com ;-)
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Right on, riverdeer. Best quote I've heard for awhile. Thank you.
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The ocean current isn't new. It has been known for some time. It is, however, a weak current and one that has been known to be intermittent. It has nothing whatsoever to do with global warming. Global warming is occurring, but human beings have nothing to do with it. It is proceeding as expected, and there is nothing mankind to do to stop it. We can, however, predict its course and prepare for it, unless we are deceived into thinking we can do things to stop it.
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My sister is also alarmed by global warming... She freaks out at me if I leave a TV on for 15 minutes when I'm not in a room, but then she drives 45 minutes to get brunch on a Sunday when we have 20 diners in walking distance of our house...
My point to random users, if you're so disgusted with everyone ignoring the environment (which most people aren't in NY anyways) then don't drive - ride your bike everywhere, don't use an air conditioner - sweat your ba!!s off....
Lead by example... Not by whining and voicing your superiority... Be superior... Elect government officials willing to put miles per gallon limits on cars (Let's all write in vote Michael Bloomberg for the next presidential race).... (BTW... we all know this but Al Gore uses 20 times more energy than the average household... Much like a bad cop, wealth has driven him to believe he is above the standards he sets out to enforce... Sadly he was the better choice for President, yet a joke unto himself... Regarding the carbon credit factor, that's ridiculous and would expand the standard of living gap between the rich and the poor)
FYI - I always shut my TV off now... She still drives 45 minutes to brunch... -
Actually, while Al Gore may use a lot of power, he actually pays more money to his power company so that all the energy he uses comes from renewable resources.
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Al Gore has also decreased his carbon footprint by installing solar panels on his home and he buys carbon off sets for all of his travels. So he walks the walk, probably better than most of us.
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MetBul, how about if we be superior AND whine about it? (I hope you've pointed out the hypocrisy to your sister)
LtDan, I got you some ice cream.
LtDan, ice crea- oh, it has mel-ted.
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- stephenthomson
- 11 days ago
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in all honesty, LtDan. you dont think our digging up fossil fuels and burning them and spewing their chemical excrement into the atmosphere has anything to do with the fact that the world's temperature is increasing, carbon PPM is at an all-time high, and methane deposited deep under the sea bed and in the Siberian peat bogs that hasn't risen in millions of years is suddenly bubbling up, and our ice caps are melting at record speed?
I dare say, you ought to think about it more.
Saying there's nothing you can do about it because it's not your fault is very convenient. allows you to continue living your life guilt-free. that's great. enjoy.
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- stephenthomson
- 11 days ago
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LtDan, two-thirds of all greenhouse gas emissions come from two activities: generating electricity and burning fuels for transportation vehicles. Unless it's the orangutans shoving coal into the power plants and the geckos driving around in SUVs, I think you'll have to admit sorrowfully that human activity is responsible for global climate change. Sorry, I wish it weren't the case too. But at least you have some ice cream now.
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- Julie_Soller
- 11 days ago
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In all honesty I do not believe that carbon dioxide has anything to do with atmospheric heating. There is just too little of it in the air. The world's climate is warming because we are still emerging from a glaciation period. Carbon dioxide, at about 400 ppm in the air, has a greenhouse effect that is totally overwhelmed by the greenhouse effect of water vapor. Water vapor is found in the atmosphere at about 20,000 to 30,000 ppm, and it intercepts and absorbs infrared radiation much more efficiently than CO2 does on a molecule for molecule basis.
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Julie, you are wrong when you say that two-thirds of all greenhouse gas emissions are of human origin. Perhaps two-thirds of all anthropogenic emissions of carbon dioxide consist of fossil fuel combustion by-products, but natural sources of carbon dioxide far outweigh human sources. Controlling, or even eliminating entirely, all fossil fuel sources of CO2 would do very little to reduce the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. It would be quite silly to try to change the climate of this planet by taking a trace gas in the atmosphere and reducing its concentration from one minuscule level down to another minuscule level. At neither level does it have any effect on climate.
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We all can't afford carbon credits, solar paneling, extra $20/month to use wind power from the electric Company (that's how it works in NY).... That's nice for Al Gore and everything but the average American can't simultaneously maintain their standard of living and implement these methods of saving energy... He can because people go to the movies to watch 4th grade lessons on global warming combined with one scenario where global warming causes mass flooding and one where global warming causes an ice age... I'm confused... Like most Hollywood stars, his wealth has put him in a state of mind called LALA land.... Where reality is ignored for noble endeavors... The sacrifices Al Gore makes are immaterial to his income and accumulated wealth.... Who wouldn't install solar panels if they could afford it without taking an SOL hit... Did anyone mention that he flies private jets?
I don't know why there's not a bigger push for nuclear power... It's the greatest invention other than EZ Pass and Tivo in the 20th century (j/k - about ez and tivo)... It's affordable, clean and efficient...There have been places excavated for purposes of storing nuclear waste which will last more than the rest of the millenium... Apparently isolated from water supplies... If we're afraid of terrorists blowing it up we might as well just give up... -
ok, now im scared..... :| i wonder what the con's will say to this, and how its not related to global warming as this story progresses...
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MetBull: "...we all know this but Al Gore uses 20 times more energy than the average household."
Yes, but it is all from solar panels and other renewables, so no blame there.-
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- Vierotchka
- 11 days ago
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LtDan - did you bother to read the article? If you did read it, you must have missed this part:
"Studying this data, along with satellite images, Di Lorenzo discovered a pattern of current that he named the North Pacific Gyre Oscillation.
"Recent satellite data suggest that this current is undergoing intensification as the temperature of the Earth has risen over the past few decades."
So yes, this ocean current IS new.-
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- Vierotchka
- 11 days ago
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too little - too late.
the human race has sealed its own fate, an no amount of 'carbon-neutral' bullshit will reverse the process that will see the earth eventually flood before freezing over again in the next ice-age.
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Vierotchka,
The North Pacific Gyre has been there for as long as anyone can remember. It is essentially the same thing as the gyre which lies at the center of the Sargasso Sea in the Atlantic.
What DiLorenzo apparently "discovered" is that the speed of the circular current intensifies and diminishes roughly in concurrency with the solar sunspot cycle which takes about eleven years and four months to move from peak to peak. (The El Nino Southern Oscillation also is connected closely to the solar cycle.) No one has yet offered a plausible explanation of why increased solar activity causes an increase in the speed of the current. So far we only know that it does so.
So what DiLorenzo discovered is the oscillation in the strength of the North Pacific Gyre, and not the gyre itself. The gyre itself has come in for some "bad press" in recent months due to the continued build-up of trash and debris at its center. We (not "they") should do something to clean up that garbage dump. -
LtDan,
Didn't anyone tell you the "original sin" infection runs deep?
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I DO seem to recall someone mentioning that. Is global warming a divine payback for original sin? And, by the way, what the heck IS original sin anyway? I have always been told I was born with it, but if that is true, then it must have been something pre-natal that I did, and I certainly don't recall anything from that time period --- at least nothing fun.
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Carbon off sets are bullshit, they allow really rich people like al gore to continue living their un-eco friendly lifestyle. Oh and Gores largest house's electricity bill hovers around 10 and 15k a month. So no hes not exactly leading the way, and this is off topic but maybe instead of trying to kill manbearpig he should be talking alittle bit more to his drug addict kids.... just a thought
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Just a thought about the Cult of Gore.
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I will have to go back and read once more Michael Crichton's novel about global warming. I had never seen the man talk before. He certainly is articulate, and I suspect he is pretty intelligent. Do you think he has ever spoken with any of the current Presidential candidates?
The novel, State of Fear, was published in 2004 and was highly scorned by a veritable chorus of global warmalist true believers. -
Yes LtDan, I highly suggest you take a closer look.
For anyone wanting to research the subject of climate change, the (pper reviewed) reference list in the Appendix of State of Fear is priceless reading material - let alone Crichton's VERY accurate summation of the "current state of the art" environmental lobby / movement.
He was qustioned by Ms Clinton in a Senate hearing (she was laughable):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gCP2IY3SRvY
And then there's Boxer (she is also laughable):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xNIlfyef-b0
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Wow! These videos of Hillary Clinton and Barbara Boxer "questioning" Doctors Gray and Crichton are absolutely devastating! Mrs. Clinton is just sitting there reading something that someone else wrote for her --- perhaps someone Albert Gore appointed for the task --- and Barbara Boxer displayed a shameful lack of manners in her questioning of Dr. Gray. It is obvious that no one who disagrees with the Gore story of global warming is ever going to get decent treatment from Senator Boxer. She is apparently a graduate of the "shout 'em down" school of climatology, and very VERY protective of James Hansen.
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