DC Madam scandal widens: Cheney, Giuliani, Abramoff

I envision a trophy case installed at Dick Cheney's favorite "secret location" filled with the balls of any that would oppose him.

Everybody knows that this woman did not commit suicide.The likelyhood that the Vice President of the United States of America, Dick Cheney being involved in her murder seems to be highly probable.

Could the Archilles Heel of this bunch of murderous thieves be their penises?

If we are lucky it will go down in history as
Cheney's Archilles Penis

Not my habit, but I hear you can't get a "date" in Dallas during the political conventions...all the girls are too busy with the politicians and delegates...

Yes, I am serious.

CarolynGillis, too funny!

Thank You all for helping this story get the attention it deserves. This should be FRONT PAGE NEWS.

Apathy gets us all more of the same.

And I'm sure the MSM will NOT cover it much either, or if they do cover it, they will not give it the Dick Cheney slant it truly deserves. I can see old Dick pulling a Spitzer, but I'd hate to be Dick's "escort". I'm sure The Veep isn't a barrel of laughs.

Suicide my ass.

i have no doubt she was murdered, oops i have send too much. Just like those 46 some clinton associates.
check out this website
http://www.prorev.com/wwindex.htm

No need for me to be reading mystery novels and films anymore. This is way more interesting. Disturbing of course, but makes for a better read.

It'll be interesting to see what leaks through the cracks on this case. I'm hoping this won't be one of those things that 30 to 40 years later folks on their deathbeds start coming out with the goods. I think the public is interested in seeing what a good investigation on all this leads to.

Did you guys know you can actually download her phone records for the past thirteen years? Try it out, run a cross reference on the numbers. It’s not that interesting.

Ricky84: Do you have a link?

Hey!
Politicians - corporations - 'news' outlets - WE KNOW YOU"RE LYING.


One big family of millionaires, billionaires and politicians.
Sting laid it out in 'Murder by Numbers'. It's the way things get done.
Osamas dad, killed in private plane crash in Texas, investigation sealed.
Salem, oldest brother, killed in private plane crash, in Texas, investigation sealed.
Wellstone?
Kennedy?
Kennedy?
Oh, yeah... Kennedy?
Suicide? C'mon.

http://members.tripod.com/ravenwoods/index-55BC.html

ABC has become FOX's red headed step sibling.

On another note, if you were her and where going to kill yourself wouldn't you publish your "lil black book" in some grand fashion so you could go out in a blaze of glory?

So that's is what Cheney's "man-size safe" is for.

I think Cheney is innocent! I mean, wouldn't you think just taking the VP's demon seed would be enough to kill most women in the first place? =P

The timing of her death is very suspicious... I suspect foul play

wow hadn't heard about this at all

(thanks for that link Tori)

Look I know everyone wants to jump to the conclusion that some evil shadow government had this woman killed. I get it, our current administration sucks and they’ve done a lot of shady things. Don’t forget once upon a time the Bush Administration jumped to a conclusion. Do you really want to emulate Bush and his cronies by spitting out your hate filled condemnations without even considering the evidence?

1 Please tell me how you sneak into a trailer home and abduct a woman with her mother in the next room?

2 Everyone has been saying this is a murder because women don’t hang themselves but look at it from the other way around. If this was a murder committed by a group of professional assassins wouldn’t they know women usually do not hang themselves?

3 While this woman did not name every one of her clients she did provide her phone records well before she was murdered. Why did her assassins wait so long to kill her then? Why wouldn’t they have killed her before she released the records?

4 This woman was going to prison in a couple of months. If you wanted to silence her why wouldn’t you just wait for her to go to prison and then hire someone to kill her? People die all the time in prison and their attackers are never discovered. If I was going to kill her I would’ve either paid a gang or contracted a lone individual who had nothing to lose That seems like the simplest way to silence someone in her position.

5 Where is the evidence of a struggle? Ok let’s assume someone did murder this woman how then do they remove her silently from a mobile home and hang her without any evidence of a struggle? Even if you pulled a gun on me and led me from my bed there is no way in hell I’m going to let you hang me without screaming bloody murder. If I know you’re going to kill me then I’m going to fight in the hopes that I can either save myself or make it known that I was murdered.

Ok I can go on and on about this but for now I’m going to stop. Here is the link to Ms. Palfrey’s phone records. If you are really interested I would again suggest that you take a look and do your own investigation. Just remember this woman ran a half rate escort service that netted her two million in thirteen years. She was busted by the IRS and the postal service because she was receiving her payments by money orders through the mail. She wasn’t big time at all!

So it doesn’t really make since that this is a cover up by a group of influential business/government men. If they have the number to a group of class A assassins then they probably have the number to a class A escort service that doesn’t get busted by mail carriers.



http://www.deborahjeanepalfrey.com/telephoneRecords.htm...

OK but why would she hang herself in mom's storage shed for mom to find her dead daughter hanging there. Another thing, she hadn't even been sentenced yet.

I'm not a big conspiracy theorist but I know when things to quite add up.

The point is that at first NO ONE even questioned the suspicious nature of the whole thing. Look I heard the lady a number of times on the air talking about how she was being tracked and followed and she did everything she could to let people know she felt her life was in danger. She point blank said, "if i wind up dead it is not a suicide. One or her escorts was offed the same way.

Why would you ask that I give Bush/Cheney et all the benefit of the doubt? They have a bad record.

I am just saying it deserves a little attention.

goolkasian has grasped the inconvenient truth.

first I would assume that these kinds of highly-privileged people do not take kindly to being blackmailed.

I tend to think they are *certainly* without a doubt, quite "untouchably" capable of something like this. no suicide note? no mention of despair or odd behavior before the fact other than restated fear for her life and the telling fact that she said they would attempt to make it look like a suicide? (kinda reminds me of that Russian spy (or whatever) who got dosed with radiation) but further, haven't we all seen the character of this administration to be phuk-all "do as thou wilt"??? this wouldn't be a stretch for them, as much as perhaps just scratching a "little" itch...

Cheney was not involved in this-the woman did not have male hookers. Jeff Gannon came to the White House for Dick.

Cheney ? ? ? there is not enough money in the world . . .

why would you put yourself on the line for cheny (echoz) if that is your real name? Or might you be some government agent employed to protect the dignity of high ranking officials?

We all know cheney is all about protecting his ass-etts, I mean he had google remove his address from their map for christ sake.

And don't think for a second that a trailor home is hard to break into. all you'd need is a butter knife, and do you think a 100 somthing lbs 52 year old woman would be hard to gag? If shes in her 50's how olds her mother? Probly doesn't have the best hearing.

And just because her phone record were givin doesn't mean that all of her clients were listed. My point is that surly there was someone careful enough not to be on the phone list that had something to lose by her testifying.

i think we need a Edward R. Murrow of our time to be able to stand up for things others are to afraid to say....
cough* ABC *

"Nut"Lee...is that *your* real name? =D hmmm...

relax. we both agree (you must've misread and taken something out of context somehow =) no worries, been there done that myself) so...I'm not putting myself on the line for cheney. that sob is on his own.

Umm... What is up current TV? I just saw this news story on the news hr update, but there was no mention of Cheney in the story... interesting edit considering that this news story was specifically about his involvement. I would like to assume that current is doing their own research into the validity of the story, but if you are going to air the content of this post, dont you think it should actually BE about the content????

I heard Cheney's name months ago, The others are new to me. Gannon was not visiting Cheney, It was Rove or Bush, maybe both? Remember Cheney's hunting accident? They were there with women. That slipped by without much reporting. The Shooter and the shootee both had someone as I recall. Ms. Palfrey didn't hang herself, Women that are so careful about their looks take overdoses.

I'm just surprised that the DC politicians took a break from boy's club children at Larry King's house for some adult women.

Amen, MM!

I thought the reason the sheriff didn't go to the shooting site was Cheney's chance of being seen "tipsy" but what you just said make far more sense.

If she really said "If they find me dead, it wasn't a suicide" or something like that, the damned thing should be investigated to the fullest extent possible.

And NOW!

They aren't going to investigate anything. They did it where it was just her and her mother so no inconvenient friends would pop up say something and cause suspicion. They have been doing this sort of thing forever.

'jump to conclusions'...

Shame on America that intelligent, reasonable, good people could even imagine their leaders, President, Vice-President, State Police Chiefs and news medias might even be this corrupt.

Let's remember the official, investigated, publicly beat to death version of events from The Warren Commission; A single gunman and one bullet that makes amazing turns and bounces off bones and penetrates two people and is found, unscathed, laying on the gurney next to the president.

911 Omission Report - there's a story.

ricky84 do you , or anyone else, really think Bush 'jumped to a conclusion' and attacked Iraq? Is that the conclusion jumped to?
The first time I heard him speak after announcing he was running for prez in 2000 I KNEW we were going to war.
Bush couldn't find a conclusion if he tripped over one.
Americans have been lied to for so long from so many directions about everything that ricky84 and apparently some current staffer thinks Bush 'Jumped to a conclusion' - about something - and it didn't work out well.
As a casual observer I have noted that everything said or written that comes from this administration and its appointees has been a lie.
Why suddenly during ANOTHER sex scandal would these guys finally come clean?
I just re-read the previous comments and have not seen any 'hate filled condemnations' from anyone.
Maybe we could use some hate filled condemnations. There are some things going on that are fully worthy of hate filled condemnations.
Don't let this story fade away.

If you don't think our 'leaders' would kill to keep their money and power a quick study of history and politics might prove enlightening.

I really don’t feel like arguing semantics. It’s stupid and only serves to distract everyone else from the topic at hand. (It sounds like you Mr. Raven are taking a page from the Bush playbook.)

To answer your question I think Bush possibly jumped to a conclusion about the war in Iraq. (I also think he might of led us into an unneeded war so his buddies could make a buck. ) The reason I say this is simple.

1 Bush believed in a connection between Iraq and the terrorists despite the evidence for no such connection.

2 Bush and his cronies had little or no exit strategy

3 Bush believed the US would be greeted as liberators and that the whole thing would go as smoothly as the initial invasion.

Once again I could go on and on so let me just sum it up. YES I do think Bush “jumped the a conclusion” about a lot of stuff concerning Iraq. There was little or no planning besides the initial invasion. Almost every prediction about the Iraq response proved wrong, and most importantly our countries actions have done little to pacify a divided people who were held together by an oppressive, psychopathic dictator.

“The first time I heard him speak after announcing he was running for prez in 2000 I KNEW we were going to war. “

That comment has absolutely no real bearing on what I said before or now. Just because you plan something out doesn’t mean you can’t jump to a conclusion.

“Bush couldn't find a conclusion if he tripped over one.”

You might be right about that. There is the possibility that Bush never realized his plan to bring peace to Iraq was a flawed one. However to admit that you would in essence be saying Bush jumped to a conclusion. On the other hand like I said earlier this war might be playing out exactly how the administration wanted.

“Shame on America that intelligent, reasonable, good people could even imagine their leaders, President, Vice-President, State Police Chiefs and news medias might even be this corrupt.”

That’s your interpretation of what I said. It’s a horrible interpretation. Please take a moment to feel ashamed and then come back to this post.

I was trying to convey that just because we are skeptical of our government we should not take every occurrence and spin it into an all encompassing conspiracy theory. It is not right for a group, no matter how intelligent, to become so wholeheartedly biased because of sentiment. That is what I mean by hate filled condemnations. It is wrong to assume by sentiment because invariably people confuse those emotion with a “gut feeling” and then become lost to all reason.

“Maybe we could use some hate filled condemnations.”


Current should not become the bizarro counterpart of Fox news. It should not polarize every issue. News should be reported, people should offer their opinions but no one should have to deviate from the topic at hand like I just did. Thank you Bill O’Riley’s (I probably spelled that wrong. I don’t care. Screw Bill I’ll spell his name wrong whatever.) bizzaro counterpart.



“As a casual observer I have noted that everything said or written that comes from this administration and its appointees has been a lie.”

How can you casually observe something and instantly pass judgment with absolute certainty? Jesus is that you? Reveal yourself holy one!

Hi Ricky.
This is good stuff.
Thanks for taking the time to converse.
Blessed are the peace-makers, ( or the cheese-makers.)
I don't think current should become a place for hatefilled condemnations either (unless of course it's yours directed at me my friend.)
I expect the folks involved here are more interested in alternatives that work rather than just pointing out our shortcomings.

I do not accept the framework for the argument that Bush mistakenly believed the wrong intelligence data.

As for the topic, and the shame of it all, yes, it's possible that the madam was killed to keep her from talking. The shame of it all, for us, is that there is even any traction for this as a possibility.

The shame for us is that when someone says 911 was an 'inside jub' - it's possible. Given the lies in the official findings, the omissions and the roadblocks from Bush concerning any investigation. ( I did research for 911 families )

The shame for us isn't that Bush 'made a mistake', the shame is it appears he calculatedly twisted and fabricated information about Iraq.

A casual observer am I.
I have little first hand information about most things. To form an opinion I have to do a lot of research. The people with first hand information about most things are either suppressed or the information is twisted for personal purposes,
The most recent DC Madam story will go away just like all the other sex scandals and murders connected to this white house.
It's sweet of you to liken me unto this Jesus fellow.
Who would Jesus condemn? I understand there is a LONG list.