Will the last Clinton supporter please turn out the lights on your way out

They'll be glad to as they head to the polls to vote for John McCain.

if they vote McCain they were closet republicans to begin with.

haha i will have to agree on what had just been said, but i think we (obama supporters) should be a bit more gracious, even after this amazing victory in NC and maybe, just maybe in IND ha. in the end we still have to move forward and change.

It doesn't matter whether it is mathematically impossible or not.

Superdelegates can change their minds...

The Democratic Convention is in August, that leaves a nice bit of time for someone to do something stupid.

Mr. Obama has already said some stupid things, his former Pastor already phrased some of his speaches badly.

If the past is but prologue and actions speak louder than words, it wouldn't surprise me at all if this continued.

Don't hate, she put up an outstanding fight and now she can concentrate that awesome effort on getting Barack elected. Just imagine the power of Bill and Barack on the same team with the same message. Someone wake McCain and tell him we're coming and we're bringing barrels of whoop-ass with us.

She gave a gracious speech tonight. I wish for her she had been like that all along. I hope she will step up to the plate and help elect him. There is probably a job for her in his administration. Do turn out the light the environment demands we not waste.

Agreed. A good speech tonight...but it caps off a month of really dirty campaigning. I'll be happy to see both Clintons focusing on legacy now that they've been forced to take this massive dose of reality.

PatrickEdwardMurray, JohnA,

It's time for conciliatory reconciliation and above all else unity towards the common goal. This is a movement transcending the simple campaign. I can't belief either of you actually want McCain and four more years of Bush. See the forest and the trees, look at the greater good over the petty differences or prejudices.

United We Stand. Divided We Fall.

Obama/Clinton 2008

Nope, sorry, does not compute:)

Anybody want a "Red Moon"?

According to Obama it's ok to push the Nasa plan termed
"Constellation" back 5 years to go back to the Moon and on to Mars:

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/26/48159...

Don't think that the Republicans won't bring this up either.

Look, the guy has NO NEW IDEAS and has no clue about technology.

Apparently, he thinks that unless we do that we won't have the astronauts to go ...well...gee whiz how do you think we got the Mercury, Gemini & Apollo folks?
Mostly from the Navy, Air Force and John Glenn was a Marine.

Neil Armstrong was a civilian at the time of Apollo 11.

If a kid has the qualifications and the desire he can do
a lot, that's what drove all these brave heroes of ours and those who have died too.

When any nation decides NOT to reach for the stars in any type of effort other nations will decide to fill the void.

In today's 21st century where the United States has outsourced and is behind in technology, we can't afford to wait another 5 years!:(

It wouldn't matter if he was dumb as a post he is going to be our nominee because the voters like and trust him. He is extreamly smart, he has many good ideas and is going to be our next president. In todays world he needs to focus on fixing the economy and doing something about outsourcing, ending the damned war, restoring our reputation, getting universal health care implemented, and rebuilding our broken military among other things. We can go to the damned moon when people are working, aren't losing their homes, and we aren't on the brink of financial disaster. Maybe after we take out bin Laudin and his boys and restore peace in this world we can strike out to take over mars.

How is going to the moon and mars in anyway an important issue right now? do you know how much money that would take, that could be used on WAY more important issues?

Sorry to break the news to ya Murray, the space race and the arms were the same. As soon as we "beat" the USSR, the government stopped caring about your silly space program.

Sorry friend, but I would push back the funding for that mission indefinitely. It's a vast waste of money to live a Hollywood created dream.

Real life issues are more important than the ILLUSION that man can travel in space practically.

Justwanna & Saladin,

I guess in your minds manufacturing and technological expertise doesn't mean much?

Guess not...

See, that's one thing young folks don't know..you don't have the "institutional knowledge" that you aquire from living a few years longer.

It should bug you that we have to tag along with the Russians to get a lift to our space station...

Just wait until the Shuttle is mothballed...you will see:(

He has no chance in November. Vote for Ron Paul. One protest vote is as good as another.

John A is tirelessly campaigning for president of the land of SOUR Grapes. He has been blogging all night and day.

Sorry, I may have no other choice in the end regardless of who it is but to hold my nose and vote for the annointed one to keep McCain out (if that is even possible with the voter roles already being purged and electronic machines already being found to be rigged) but you can kiss my allegiance to any 'party' goodbye. I am not a 'typical white person', and I sure am not 'irrelevant' as my generation was called by Obama in his interview in Reno Nevada when he praised Reagan. He does nothing but subtly insult people with his pretty speech and then expect everyone to believe they 'misunderstood' him. He may be the 'choice' of the Rockefellers and Kennedys and other big wigs in the party looking for a new one to mold, but I do not know enough about his past to say I trust him... and I don't. Frankly, I don't trust any politicians nor do I have to. Don't expect me to sit and sing Kumbaya with a party that enabled the Republicans and these criminals to stay in power. It ain't gonna happen. Oh, and yes, what do you mean by 'Obama nation?' Last time I checked I live in America.

I am sitting back for this show.It may prove to be a doosy!!!

McCain is such a mean spirited little jerk.

Oh, it's going to be a doozy alright! If he had this hard of a time winning over someone that is on his team, how hard do you think it will be to win over someone that isnt? You think that Hillary ran a negative campain? (which by the way, the facts dont support. I live in Indiana and I never did recieve a negative piece of mail from her, but I got more than one from him!) Just wait!The Republicans will not be so worried about playing nice.

Good grief, John McCain left alone will destroy himself, with his one hundred year war, or not having to ever go into the Middle East for oil remarks. We need to make up our minds to support this young man Obama. We are in the process of taking back our country from those that did everything they could to destroy us. He can with our help make the needed changes. We need to let him know what we want and don't want. He will listen, because he wants to be one of the Great Presidents. With our support he will be.

JohnA he does have a chance, I believe he does, he knows what he is talking about and for those who are still with the whole pastor thing that had been air forever put a sock in it, you cannot hold another person for someone else's actions, they are not the same person thus stop being childish. Now, I hope Clinton would just go away, she do not have any money left, and she is confused and insane I just hope people would just let Obama do what he must, it's time for a change and it's now.

I think you are all forgetting how much people just loved McCain before all this election business. And like I said, you all want to get your panties in an uproar over all this pastor stuff whenever anybody mentions it, but if you think that the republicans are just going to let that go and not bring up even more stuff you are crazy! And look at all the stuff they have spouted all these years about Hillary without a single bit of evidence, and people ate it up, and still do. I have seen all of you repeat that stuff, and most of you are Democrats. So get ready because the gloves are going to come off now and we are going to be stuck with another 4 years of Republicans. They sat back and watched while we were going after each other but once he wins, look out.

This is the big issue the republicans will use against him in the fall Patrick? The fact that he wants to delay the next moon landing to pay for education? Um...okay. If you think that's a winner for the republicans, go on ahead and run with it. It will make the gas tax holiday look like a home run. I can see it now...McCain pushing the importance of another moon landing, cue the black and white footage of Aldrin and Armstrong. That's not going to make him look out of touch or highlight his age issue at all. Meanwhile Obama is talking about education reform and developing technologies that could help fight climate change (something happening right here on earth). Red moon...really? God I hope you're right on this one.

People are not stupid enough to elect a man that is obviously in early stage senility. The Republicans just picked a beloved man that would be their puppet. They didn't choose wisely. He is confused and bumbling. There is not a chance in hell that McCain can win.

Hillary cant quit now she needs more money to pay off her debt. Maybe if her tax holiday break thing goes through we could each donate 30 bucks to help her out.

john mccain is a cadaver.this is a joke.

1,500,000 people of all races, religions, ages and even political parties voted for Senator Obama last night. Even after a particularly rough couple of weeks on the campaign. That's not the Rockefellers and Kennedys anointing a candidate, that the voters in two states looking past the distractions, and being able to understand a nuanced argument about real issues. Seems like it’s going to take a couple of days for the sour grapes to digest. Then maybe the healing can begin.

The Republicans are scared to death of Barack Obama. Why do you think Fox News is promoting Hillary so much?

McCain is a warmongering panderer. He is worse than Clinton would be.

Obama is the only hope for someone who wants change in this country.

Hillary is toast.

Me thinks there's something else afoot in some of this dissent. JohnA and PatrickEdwardMurray seem to have issues above and beyond what they are stating, in my opinion. Where did the moon/Mars thing come from and funny, no one was touting Ron Paul yesterday before reality struck. The first person of color to ever have the chance to be president of the worlds leading nation doesn't have any new ideas? Just say over a few times to yourself. And what about the courage it took to even undertake such an endeavor.

There is no doubt Sen. Obama has dealt with as much and more than any of the brave astronauts. Do you think there was anyone threatening to kill their families? Did they need Secret Service protection from the minute they decided to join the space program?

Sen. Obama represents change and some people have a problem with change. Some people have a problem with race and gender as well. If you have an issue state it upfront and forthright. No need to construct reason not to like the Democratic nominee speak it plain for all to see and stand by your convictions. If you can't find the courage to do that perhaps that tells you all you need to know about your argument.

PS

Ron Paul supports Sen. Obama by the way '-)

As I stated, I am DONE with 'party' politics. No 'sour grapes' about it. They didn't earn my support they trashed it. Their 'candidate' will get a vote to vote against the Republican. They should be happy they will even be getting that. However, if you choose to call being rightfully outraged about the constitutional abuses of the last eight years and the added outrage of their appeasement as 'sour grapes,' it speaks more about you than it does about me.

There will be no 'healing' until those in the Democratic party who have allowed Bush, Cheney, Rice and all the rest of the traitors to this country and constitution do right by the American people regarding their lies and crimes against this country. Impeachment seemed to be too much of a constitutional duty for them as they were just too busy 'campaigning' and raising tons of money to give a damn, but perhaps we can have at least some accountabilty... I won't hold my breath though as I am sure Bush will simply be allowed by the next president regardless of who it is to return to his ranch in Crawford to clear brush. As long as they 'win' all's right with the world, eh?

EZ Tiger(s), it's a big tent with room for all that wish to come in, just check your animosity, prejudices and jealousies at the flap. This is truly the "new world order" George HW spoke of. He had no idea how prophetic he was being at the time. Nor did he know that his awesome parenting skills would give birth to the political equivalent of the Anti-Christ but nonetheless we have arrived at the nexus of reason and altruism. Welcome to the actual New World Order - and lighten up on each other just a bit...

So Obama's 1811 to Clinton's 1662 gives Obama a "vast majority of delegates?" (Using the NYT calculation in this case.)

That's a weird definition of "vast majority," eldamon.

I really think these Dems need to team up. It's possible that either one of them could win against McCain but together I think they would be unstoppable.

Actually it is a vast majority when you look at the entire picture and realize there's only about 200-220 delegates left to win and winning 70% of them wouldn't change the outcome.

I agree a team effort would be needed to defeat McCain IF Hillary had won the nomination but Barack doesn't need Hillary on the actual ticket to get her supporters. A good number will simply vote Democrat by nature and Hillary promised to campaign vigorously for the chosen nominee so there's no real reason to put her on the ticket.

You know 96thdayofrage, after reading your post and Janforgores, you seem to be the one filled with hate. And please lay off the caps, you type like a rabid hyena, thank god this isn't voice chat.

'vast majority' may be an overstatement.

how about sufficient majority.
or uncatchable majority.
or a mathematical impossibility for Mrs Clinton's campaign.

quoth the Charlie Brown: aaarrrgh!

oh, and I forgot. I like the titling eldamon.

eldamon,

I think you are right about a team effort but it will take that for Obama I think.

Whatever happens, the American people will decide and there is already evidence that Obama will lose votes, people will decide to stay home or vote for McCain.

I can't, in all good conscience really vote for McCain.

Equally though, I cannot give my one vote to Obama.

Agreed - sufficient, insurmountable majority it is.

PEM,

It's a foregone conclusion Hillary would have fallen to McCain because no Democrat can win without the black vote. Barack got about 40% of the white vote in NC, Penn and IN. There's no reason to believe that percentage will do anything but increase so where does Barack need Hillary. If she keeps her word to the people she will support Barack in any case so it's all good.

I respect your right to withhold your vote for whatever reasons you see fit. Just ask yourself if the reasons justify supporting four more years of the current administration?

Once Hillary admits she has lost, people will analyze more closely their options between Barack and McCain. Personally I would like someone who knows the facts in Iraq, someone who does not have dementia, and someone who will invest in our own country instead of waging a 100 year war with Iraq, instigate war with Iran, and all this while cutting taxes and admitting to know nothing about economics.

I respect the service he has done for this country but the US cannot tolerate another 4 years of Bush policy

OK Hawkmang,

I concede the point, may I say he favors him?

eldamon, absolutely, I think that would be fine. ;-)

@PatrickEdwardMurray and everyone else....

first, let me say something which may make JanforGore and Marilyn_Murray soil their shorts...

i voted for Obama Tuesday here in NC...
you're welcome.

but none of the candidates have any more clue about how technology or a BIG economy really works, and i'm voting blue this year just to keep McCain's grubby hands further away from nominating any Supremes who'd sway his way.

the gas tax holiday, unfunding NASA, and all of the other examples of "democratic economic "thinking" " are the reasons i can never wholeheartedly support them.

NASA's engineering and R&D DO result in good things for lots of people, even us. not every penny is pee'd down the tubes, as Hilary would have us believe.

but if you want to have fewer jobs exported, you have to realize that the way to do it is to improve education in this country. taxing businesses to pay for crap just means they have less money to hire people or invent new things.

unfortunately, the "windfall profits taxers religion" is a tough one to compete with, per Falk's 40th Law... http://www.plusaf.com/falklaws.htm#40th

ciao, all y'all...