Subliminal messaging Fox 5 News

As a Producer (sadly at a local FOX affiliate) I can say with reasonable certainty that the switcher likely had two keys open at the same time (as is often the case)...
You will often see things like this while watching the local ad blocks during national programming.
Stations double run ads, so that if one server misfires, the backup ad will run.
Sometimes it's quite obvious when one ad ends, but then you see a 1/2 second flash of a completely different ad w/ a phone number, or website, slogan or jingle.

Still, very good catch.
If only b/c you just gave our over-protective parents @Faux Noise a new mind-control strategy.

well, obviously Fox can't rely on logical or intelligent persuasion when it comes to promoting their 'ahem' point of view, so it wouldn't really be surprising if they had to shore up their nonsense broadcasting with subliminal messages.

at first , i thought it was cheney - and i thought "good god - that's f--ng dick cheney " , and then i said "no , that can't be dick cheney " and then the slow motion showed it to be mccain , and then i said " oh , it's only mccain " - i was scared for 1/100 of a second .

It did look a little fishy, but I feel like a massive Neo-Con mind control plot would have been done with Romney or Huckabee.

Plus, I find it hard to loathe local Fox affiliates the same way I do Fox News. I mean these are the people that bring us The SImpsons and House.

Notice how the main logo is off centered during that one particular shot?

Also, notice that the logo is actually shifted to show his full face, you can see it get pixelated right as his face becomes visible.

Hrm, too much scrutiny can find error in anything..

OOOOh good catch! I had posted once before that I was wondering if anyone was policing television for subliminal messages.

During the 2000 campaign, they caught a subliminal message in a campaign add. I heard it once and the subject wasn't brought up again.

Thanks for the post. Keep watching! It took a sharp eye and a sharper mind to realize it was a subliminal message. I think you are correct, it wasn't an accident. And I fear it won't be the last.

i wouldnt doubt the republicans would do something like this, especially on fox news. I have always said, "your not a good republican unless you cheat.

Erm...no. Listen to nkovach.

Those idiot Ripusofficans! Submit you undeveloped personalities!

Put down your "super evil toy" and stop killing people!

even it was intentional, its really hard to tell whether a short flash of McCain's face would do anything. If I lived in the US, theres no way a flash like that would change my mind and make me vote for him

I'm no expert on subliminal messages, but the term 'subliminal' means people aren't aware when it happens. It's to put a picture or thought in your mind. They wouldn't bother to do it, if they didn't think it would influence at least some individuals.

We are all different, who's to say which messages work and which one don't. I don't think they should be used. I used to think it was against the law to use subliminal messages. I'm sure that's an outdated law by now.

I think the shows which include torture as a means to gain information (like 24) is a subliminal message. They put torture in ones mind as being acceptable. The ends justify the means. It should not be acceptable. We had laws to stop it. America is not governed by 'group think', we are supposed to use laws, not the opinions. Opinions can change, laws remain the same.

You're right Conniepae, subliminal messages really do work differently on different people and its not fair to judge who will be and who wont be affected by them.

There is obviously a difference between what we perceive and what our bodies sense. For example, right now I am looking at a computer screen with music in my headphones. I am not paying attention to any other sounds or perceiving my surroundings as much as I would have if I wasn't writing this. My body is sensing all this input; however, my mind isn't perceiving it. Will I remember it? Will it influence me in the future? There's no way to know.

It really does depend on the person. I personally like 24. Its tense and interesting (to an extent). Whenever somebody is being tortured i don't like it and I don't agree with it. I don't take the show very seriously, it's more relax than anything else. The frame of reference is VERY important for subliminal messaging.

Oh and there's no way you can pass a law to outlaw subliminal messaging. In some cases its VERY hard to prove

A Supreme Court Justice 'Scalia' referenced Jack Bauer as though he were real. He asked the question "Would we arrest Jack Bauer?" (spelling of Bauer?)

I question his reference of an 'actor', 'fictional character' as though it represents reality. That in it's self distorts the facts about torture. What is done in movies is 'acting', not reality. I think a Supreme Court Justice should know the difference and refrain from making a fictional character's actions representative of American Justice.

That is a little creepy.

I think Justice Scalia knows the difference and so do most of the people that know who Jack Bauer is. I think he used it as an example because he knew people would understand what he means.

Either way, do you have a link to the full text of what he was saying. Its hard to know what he meant and how he meant it out of context.

i agree with Midnight...
...Fox is f-ing corrupt anyway...why wouldn't they find any little frame to support and show the face of their conservative leader. and that's super creepy.

This is the silliest take I have seen about a siple graphic oddity. Some of the anti Fox aficionados have waaay to much time to spend literally dreaming up Fox misdeeds simply because they do not appreciate differing political POV's.

I guess any lifestyle is okay, but only if you embrace a left of center political stance. Very amusing for an allegedly mature political culture!

nkovach, you were quick to offer a possible situation but you failed to support it clearly. Maybe I'm just not understanding you fully but this does not appear to be 2 separate images at all. There is no jump in the Fox 5 graphic at all, and the photos behind it appear to be part of it. I have seen instances where an ad will flash up at the end of a different ad, but that is a completely different situation.

And since we all know how biased Fox is towards Republicans, and especially John McCain, this really doesn't surprise me at all.

http://library.thinkquest.org/28162/legal.html
Subliminal Messages - legal issues

The typical human being probably thinks that he or she is not affected by subliminal messages because they either do not work or are illegal. Neither of those assumptions are entirely true. By definition, the word subliminal means "below the threshold of consciousness." The threshold of consciousness is the dividing line between something that can be processed by the conscious mind and something that enters the subconscious mind without any such processing. A subliminal message is not intense enough to produce a sensation but has sufficient intensity to influence the behavior and mental processes of one's mind. There are many ways in which a suggestion can be delivered to the audience, and you will see some such methods discussed in the advertising section of this site. When an individual is told to do something, he or she generally thinks about the positive and negative consequences, and then decides whether or not it is a good idea. This is done in the conscious mind, where the individual is aware of the suggestion he or she is being given. The decisions the conscious mind makes are based upon the knowledge and reasoning skills one has developed through experience and education. The subconscious mind does not have these reasoning skills, and thus has no ability to distinguish right from wrong, or judge the information it receives. When a suggestion enters the subconscious mind, it is taken as the truth and stored for future reference. For this reason, the strength of subliminal messages has virtually no boundaries, and can be dangerous when used improperly. These are being controlled by governments around the world to an extent, however we are still vulnerable to subliminal influence.
Currently, not much is being done to curb the use of subliminal messages in advertising and daily use. In Australia and Britain, the use of subliminal advertising has been banned with severe consequences for those who disobey the strict laws. The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in the United States will now revoke a company's broadcast license if the use of subliminal messages is proven. Subliminal message usage has also been banned for all members of The National Association of Broadcasters. In a Nevada court case, the judge ruled that the First Amendment's protection of freedom of speech and press does not extend as far as subliminal messages (Pratkanis 200). Because they are not speaking to a person in his or her conscious mind, but rather in a subliminal state, neither "speech" nor "press" accurately describes the nature of a subliminal message. All of these laws are steps toward protecting our vulnerable selves from these deceiving messages, but how does one really tell when something is a subliminal message? There are techniques to distinguish an embedded message from its surroundings, but there is no "formula" or conclusive way to always detect one. If you look at the various types of subliminal messages (see advertising section), you may see that some are indistinguishable to the human eye and require special equipment to set them apart. How would one ever tell if a message were being flashed at a rate of one three-thousandth of a second on the screen at a local movie theater? Due to this elusive nature of subliminal messages, the current legislation needs some revision to adequately address these dangers.

neokn, a link regarding Justice Scalia and Jack Bauer
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/06/20/justice-scalia-hear...

June 20, 2007, 11:37 am
Justice Scalia Hearts Jack Bauer
Posted by Peter Lattman
The Law Blog has never watched an episode of 24, the TV show where Jack Bauer tortures terrorists to save American lives. We do, however, own the first season on DVD, courtesy of the Law Blog’s twin brother (not a lawyer), who thinks we’re missing out on the best show eva.

It seems that Justice Scalia agrees with our brother. The Globe and Mail reported that Scalia came to the defense of Jack Bauer and his torture tactics during an Ottawa conference of international jurists and national security officials last week. During a panel discussion about terrorism, torture and the law, a Canadian judge remarked, “Thankfully, security agencies in all our countries do not subscribe to the mantra ‘What would Jack Bauer do?’ ”

Justice Scalia responded with a defense of Agent Bauer, arguing that law enforcement officials deserve latitude in times of great crisis. “Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles . . . . He saved hundreds of thousands of lives,” Judge Scalia reportedly said. “Are you going to convict Jack Bauer?” He then posed a series of questions to his fellow judges: “Say that criminal law is against him? ‘You have the right to a jury trial?’ Is any jury going to convict Jack Bauer?”

“I don’t think so,” Scalia reportedly answered himself. “So the question is really whether we believe in these absolutes. And ought we believe in these absolutes.”

I think he just used Bauer as a representation of "enforcement officials", much like you could use Ebenezer Scrooge from the Christmas Carol to represent greedy businessmen in Victorian England.

However, I do not agree with justice Scalia's argument that "in times of great crisis" torture is necessary. Torture tends to be grossly inaccurate and usually altogether wrong. But thats a different subject

And the "Subliminal Messages - legal issues" link you posted was a very interesting read and as I said it should not be done but I still think it would be very hard to regulate every single part of every single broadcast. Technically many ads on tv include subliminal messaging or create associations in your mind to certain products.

It was Dick Cheney! You can see his glasses and tiny beady little left eye, then Mccain is superimposed on top of him. You just have to pause it. Watch his tie go from red to gray.