Bible Science

Isn't the point of the science vs religion "tension" the factual conclusions drawn from the evidence in the first place? You're taking science and running it through a filter. At that point it's just data with biased human interpretation wrapped around it.

This doesn't look like it provides many answers at all. It looks more like an animatronic theme park aimed at the christian demographic to me.

Carbon dating anyone? C'mon....the stories of Gilgamesh, Beowulf and Ancient Egypt are older than the stories in the Bible. Why don't we start with the Sumarians versions of Creation? Or possibly Ancient Asia's versions of creation.

It's really amazing how easily people can be swayed by pseudoscience and total BS... Erosion of family morals? How about erosion of intelligence. If creationists had their way it would be the dark ages all over again. If your looking for a way to understand the world and your own existence, try opening your eyes and thinking.

I really like how you present the information without judging them. While I don't agree with them about anything it's compelling to see Ph.Ds who believe in the bible more than science. I find their claim that evolution leads to a vacant and immoral existence particularly interesting.

Thanks for braving the wilds of Kentucky to bring us this story.

No disrespect to the homie Adam but I think this piece is empty of content. First, I don't see why it's important to claim that Adam is an anthropologist. Was this suppose to make his inquiry seem 'scientifically' oriented. Nothing in the piece touched on issues in anthropology.

Further, I didn't see anything that could be considered 'humorous' about the piece. Apparently, simply believing God communicates to his creatures (through direct revelation and the natural world) is 'funny in and of itself.'

It looks like Adam did what most uninterested people do at museums...look and keep moving. Too bad he didnt address the science...even more, too bad Current thought this was a fair piece to air.

I'LL GLAD GLAD WHEN CHRISTIANITY BURNS OUT LIKE A CAMPFIRE DOES. A CAMPFIRE BURNS, BUT IT'S NOT THE SOURCE OF FIRE. SOMEBODY STARTED THIS FIRE TO STAY WARM,AND GOT OUT OF CONTROL AND BURNED THE FOREST(NATURE) DOWN.

creationist believe that god created the universe in 7 days!?

earth existed before day 1
day 1: light
day 2: water
day 3: land
day 4: sun, moon and stars
day 5: birds and sea creatures
day 6: land animals including man and woman made from man
day 7: rest

So apparently the earth existed before the sun and other stars. Light existed before the sun and stars. birds existed before land animals. This all seems to make perfect sense.

http://www.pbs.org/deepspace/timeline/

My favorite part is when he talks about George Washington. "Would I go and carbon date one of his buttons? No i would trust the history books!"

I really don't see how anyone could take any of that as solid evidence, all of their arguments are fundamentally flawed. Good god, Kentucky.

Leave Kentucky out of this.

Gotta say Kentucky is not as backward as you might think. It is less progressive than most states but this could've easily been in WV, Alabama, Kansas, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas or even Ohio. I mean, have you ever been northbound on I-75 just south of Dayton where a 60-70 ft statue of Jesus stands? And in the very beginning, the video shows a billboard with the 10 commandments, which can be found Northbound I-71 in Ohio about 20 minutes from where I grew up. The point is that it's not a state issue, it's a country-wide education issue. To understand science, is to understand how the scientific method works and thats what people in this country need to learn, whether they live in backwoods Kentucky or Los Angeles.

abandon all ye hope!

when people say stuff like "christians hijack science" it's not only offensive but its ignorant. Even a cursory view of the history of science shows that the 'scientific enterprise' emerges our of Christian cultural context...and even more strongly, many early pioneers of modern science worked out of a christian conviction about the order and nature of the universe.

There is definitly more to life than science! This museum of confusion is just not right. How can you use the term "science" and connect that to "religion". The physical and the spiritual, are two seperate worlds. Did they really feel that threatened by "science"?

And if it is out of pride, I always thought that, being passive is more true to your faith, then exploiting it.

Does this really help the church?

Sounded little porny there for a second... the wispering, the track... I dunno about that stuff. I know many have profit margins go up like in the 80's with this stuff. Again, not all are bad apples.

I got some data for you, see the link?
http://current.com/items/88950964_#88952388

What a fantastic monument to human ignorance and blind faith! If a fact is uncomfortable, just refuse to believe it. Ah, true religion and its attendant wars, bigotry, cruelty, prejudice, destructiveness and most of all self righteousness. Maybe humanity has not yet evolved enough, and maybe our species will not last long enough to cure our ignorance. Very sad...

The Bible is not a history book, it is a fictional story book written by men thousands of years ago. Someday " Dianetics" will be an ancient text, and it will (possibly) be looked at the same way the Christian Bible is.

equiping christian's to defend their faith?? Is this a call to arms?

sean,
it's a 2000 year old call to defend your belief system by providing a rational defense for your worldview...it says as much in that bible thing collecting dust on your shelf (try the book of Acts chapter 17).

The last comment about getting dignity to man only from creationism is absurd. I would rather have dignity that is deserved from actions, rather than just handed over to me. Another example of laziness from the believers of the one who can't be seen--or won't be seen which is just rude.

Also, $30,000,000.00 to make this museum. Wow, I knew the mega churches were profitable and have lobbyists in washington d.c., but holy moses maybe I should have been a minister.

I sure hope this farce is paying taxes.

TAX CHURCHES AND CREATION MUSEUMS NOW!

Booksbrown,

Using my knowledge of human evolution, physical archaeology, and historical geology in my interviews with the creation scientists would have produced a very polemic, divisive, and subjective pod. None of my anthropological training was used to deconstruct their arguments--and this is a valid criticism of the pod. I did not interject in interviews nor did I editorialize in the voice-over narration. Current and I agreed that this is far too energizing and political of a topic to use critical journalism in a four-minute investigation.

To argue on behalf of my professional training would have violated the trust of my informants, and my friend Pastor Brad Bigney, afforded me and Current TV.

You are responding to the write-up about the pod which is an inaccurate description about the pod's content. I have requested that Current replace the pod description with one that is accurate.

Religion is based on nothing but emotionalism and is concerned with facts only if they happen to support some silly belief of a religious practitioner. To accept the idea of creationism, a person would have to be very good at self deception.

I agree that this museum only appears to graphically portray the idea of Christianity as a means for physical extortion of a child's amusement park.

it is interesting how the human brain can delude it self, and also the need of a lot of humans to have an answer. not necessarily the truth , but a answer.
notice that this "museum" dosent recognize that there are a lot of different ethnics in the world.these peopole have a combination of delusion,irrational belief and racist mind set. Instead of using the poor, black inner city as an example of the degradation of man, how about showing white slave masters whipping and mutilating black men for trying to run to freedom, or how about white men raping black women for 200 years!! a bunch of liars, fools and hypocrites

Right on, tesmith47. Religion has been used throughout history to excuse inexcusable behavior. Since emotions are the prime mover in religious beliefs, consider this. An emotion is a response to an objective fact as seen through the lens of one's perception. The objective fact, however, is absolutely independent of any emotion. For example, a religious person may passionately believe that the universe is only 6,000 years old, but that doesn't change the fact that it's actual age is about 14 billion years.

How does the 6,000 year bunch manage to avoid trigonometry. Astronomers can look at a distant star and check its angle in winter and summer. Using those two positions as a baseline and the different angles, trigonometry tables will let you calculate the distance of the star. There are other methods, but this one is fairly simple. If that star happens to be a couple million light years away, It took that long for the light to reach us. In the religious model, the farthest object from earth can be only 6,000 light years away. It just ain't so, people.

Amazing how we all preach tolerance - except nobody's tolerant of Christianity anymore. Half of these comments allude that people that are religious or have strong faith are "less than" people who rely solely on science.

I'm not condoning what Christians do or excuse "in the name of God." But Science and Religion can go together. It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. But, at the same time, I don't really agree with this museum either. The whole point of faith is believing in something without knowing all the answers or facts - not trying to make all the facts based on our assumptions.

Christianity may be nothing more than a harmful superstition, bit it IS tolerated in the USA. There are too many churches to count, and most of them seem to be doing pretty well. Tell somebody you're an atheist or sceptic and see how much tolerance you get. Historically, when Christians don't tolerate somebody, they burn them, crush them, enslave them, or marginalize entire ethnic groups. Most of us atheists and skeptics are considerably more tolerant of others. It is, after all, possible to have morals without the fear of eternal damnation. Some of us can be good little boys and girls just because we want to.

You're making huge generalizations, though, about Christianity. It would be the same as me saying "historically, Muslims are a part of Al Qaeda" and not expecting backlash from that. There are extremists in every situations and, unfortunately, those extremists have given Christianity the bad name is has throughout the years. Jesus' teachings were of love, peace, tolerance - all the things you mentioned above were man's incorrect ideologies.

The real problem with this museum is that it appears to be targeted at children. Though the parents are surely in agreement with what is being presented they are really doing their children a great disfavour. Waiting until a child has the ability to actually comprehend these complex issues is the only appropriate course of action. I fear young people who think dinosaurs and humans co-existed because they saw them in this museum will be predisposed to think this way despite any conflicting evidence they experience later in life.

why use carbon dating to tell how old something is when you can read the bible.

if you get falsely acused of a muder or rape you won't be needing that DNA testing to prove your innocence.

just have the jury read the bible and make their judgement on you.

for the folks that compare the muslims al quedia activities to western Christianity's, there is one small item that you all forget. there has never been a military presence of any Muslim country in the usa, but there have been dozens of usa military bases in Muslim countries in the past and today there may be hundreds.
I think my fellow americans need to read about the history of our prescence (along with england) in muslim countries, you might understand why they are mad as hell, and if you put yourself in their shoes you might even agree with them

as a note of information I dont believe any of the stories muslim or christian or any one else.
I am a proud Black nationalist, agnostic

This is a cool pod, but I completely disagree with the view point.

I personally think think that evolution infact does give us dignity, and even more so than any biblical verse ever could.

"Hollowness and souless"? Not by far my friend. If you honestly think that the poetic verses of the bible are truley the historical artifact for the origin of humans and the world...You obviously don't understand the vastness, wonder and ability of God. The bible is poetic, holds much knowledge, but it is not the bottom line.

We have evolved since the days of the bible (NEW TECHNOLOGY=EVOLUTION) Besides, so many people have contributed, re-written and revised it, how much can we actually trust to be part of the original intention???

adam, thanks for reppin the conservative viewpoints out there too. it keeps us from operating in a vacuum.

thats really good , im booking my ticket to Creation World looks like a hoot!

I believe the Darwin's theory because that's what I learned at school, and it totally made sense to me. I was grown up in Japan, and nobody around me told me God had created everything in 7 days. But if I was grown up in Kentucky, and all adults around me kept on telling me God had created everything, I might have believed that...

I hope all kids have a chance to hear different theories and have a right to choose what to believe. I think Brainwash is one of the most evil things in the world.

By the way, Adam, I love this pod.

Most scientists would laugh hysterically at the idea of a museum that tries to weigh creationism equally with evolution. And then they'd weep for humanity.

Great pod, although my personal opinion is that evolution and that defiantely exists, not so strong on the religious belifes...well, not one bit of a believer.

How ever, if I wasI'd say, Bible sotries are NOT to be trusted, SOMEONE came up with them, manny people did for stories in thier even, but won't be God. Adam and Eve? Nope. Godcould've choosen to evolve us, I may choose to believe something MIGHT be out there, but sure not anything or one we've ever thought up.

thanks for the pod, really makes you think.

Agree or disagree with the content of the pod... it's a good pod, congrats for getting it on TV.

For the record, I don't believe the earth was created in 7 days or is 6000 years old... however.

The trouble with the science vs. religion argument is that we forget that religion was at one point considered THE LAW of the universe. That eventually gave way to some other beliefs, but we held on to the WORLD IS FLAT (some still like that one I think)

As we move forward in time, we've changed our views of people, places things and even science has changed.

What was once cutting edge science is now considered little more than witchcraft and voodooism.

I think we put too much "faith" in present day science. Granted it's taken us quite far, it's put us in a rather precarious position.

The creationists might argue that God has given us free will, and we have developed science at our own peril... hmm or perhaps we are being guided by an evil force...I wonder who would be the cause of all the evil...

I don't discount a greater force at work in the universe... all of our science and physics still can't take us back to the creation of the universe.

All the laws of physics break down at the origin of the big bang, they can explain millionths of a second later, but that instant of “creation”... could that be God???

Like I said great pod.

As far as the actual building, it can't be worse for my kids than Disney.

people should have a right to their beliefs, we live in a country that supports that and i support it too. only when these beliefs start to hinder and degrade those of other beliefs do i have a problem. religion can be sneaky (not just religious organizations but they aren't excluded either) like that and at least in this video they try to say they agree with science but that statement is so contradictory. why would an organization need something like this if people just simply believed, obviously there is a reason for people questioning, because it (religion) doesnt seem logical (obviously). now you cant place a concrete explanation on god so i dont know why they are trying to mix religion and science. they are just giving more evidence as to how religion isnt based on fact. this museum just seems like a place with flashy mechanisms and games to brainwash children and ease their parents minds. just because people believed it 2000 years ago doesnt mean they need to now, change is good.

OBAMA 2008!
separation of church and state all the way!