Vatican says its okay to believe in aliens
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By. Ariel David
VATICAN CITY - Believing that the universe may contain alien life does not contradict a faith in God, the Vatican's chief astronomer said in an interview published Tuesday.
The Rev. Jose Gabriel Funes, the Jesuit director of the Vatican Observatory, was quoted as saying the vastness of the universe means it is possible there could be other forms of life outside Earth, even intelligent ones.
"How can we rule out that life may have developed elsewhere?" Funes said. "Just as we consider earthly creatures as 'a brother,' and 'sister,' why should we not talk about an 'extraterrestrial brother'? It would still be part of creation."
In the interview by the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, Funes said that such a notion "doesn't contradict our faith" because aliens would still be God's creatures. Ruling out the existence of aliens would be like "putting limits" on God's creative freedom, he said.
The interview, headlined "The extraterrestrial is my brother," covered a variety of topics including the relationship between the Roman Catholic Church and science, and the theological implications of the existence of alien life.
Funes said science, especially astronomy, does not contradict religion, touching on a theme of Pope Benedict XVI, who has made exploring the relationship between faith and reason a key aspect of his papacy.
The Bible "is not a science book," Funes said, adding that he believes the Big Bang theory is the most "reasonable" explanation for the creation of the universe. The theory says the universe began billions of years ago in the explosion of a single, super-dense point that contained all matter.
But he said he continues to believe that "God is the creator of the universe and that we are not the result of chance."
Funes urged the church and the scientific community to leave behind divisions caused by Galileo's persecution 400 years ago, saying the incident has "caused wounds."
In 1633 the astronomer was tried as a heretic and forced to recant his theory that the Earth revolved around the sun. Church teaching at the time placed Earth at the center of the universe.
"The church has somehow recognized its mistakes," he said. "Maybe it could have done it better, but now it's time to heal those wounds and this can be done through calm dialogue and collaboration."
Pope John Paul declared in 1992 that the ruling against Galileo was an error resulting from "tragic mutual incomprehension."
The Vatican Observatory has been at the forefront of efforts to bridge the gap between religion and science. Its scientist-clerics have generated top-notch research and its meteorite collection is considered one of the world's best.
The observatory, founded by Pope Leo XIII in 1891, is based in Castel Gandolfo, a lakeside town in the hills outside Rome where the pope has a summer residence. It also conducts research at an observatory at the University of Arizona, in Tucson.
By. Ariel David
VATICAN CITY - Believing that the universe may contain alien life does not contradict a faith in God, the Vatican's chief astronomer said in an interview published Tuesday.
The Rev. Jose Gabriel Funes, the Jesuit director of the Vatican Observatory, was quoted as saying the vastness of the universe means it is possible there could be other forms of life outside Earth, even intelligent ones.
"How can we rule out that life may have developed elsewhere?" Funes said. "Just as we consider earthly creatures as 'a brother,' and 'sister,' why should we not talk about an 'extraterrestrial brother'? It would still be part of creation."
In the interview by the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, Funes said that such a notion "doesn't contradict our faith" because aliens would still be God's creatures. Ruling out the existence of aliens would be like "putting limits" on God's creative freedom, he said.
The interview, headlined "The extraterrestrial is my brother," covered a variety of topics including the relationship between the Roman Catholic Church and science, and the theological implications of the existence of alien life.
Funes said science, especially astronomy, does not contradict religion, touching on a theme of Pope Benedict XVI, who has made exploring the relationship between faith and reason a key aspect of his papacy.
The Bible "is not a science book," Funes said, adding that he believes the Big Bang theory is the most "reasonable" explanation for the creation of the universe. The theory says the universe began billions of years ago in the explosion of a single, super-dense point that contained all matter.
But he said he continues to believe that "God is the creator of the universe and that we are not the result of chance."
Funes urged the church and the scientific community to leave behind divisions caused by Galileo's persecution 400 years ago, saying the incident has "caused wounds."
In 1633 the astronomer was tried as a heretic and forced to recant his theory that the Earth revolved around the sun. Church teaching at the time placed Earth at the center of the universe.
"The church has somehow recognized its mistakes," he said. "Maybe it could have done it better, but now it's time to heal those wounds and this can be done through calm dialogue and collaboration."
Pope John Paul declared in 1992 that the ruling against Galileo was an error resulting from "tragic mutual incomprehension."
The Vatican Observatory has been at the forefront of efforts to bridge the gap between religion and science. Its scientist-clerics have generated top-notch research and its meteorite collection is considered one of the world's best.
The observatory, founded by Pope Leo XIII in 1891, is based in Castel Gandolfo, a lakeside town in the hills outside Rome where the pope has a summer residence. It also conducts research at an observatory at the University of Arizona, in Tucson.
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- Jouvon_Kingsby
- 2 months ago
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Well this is good news for Christian rednecks who have been seeing them for years and suffering spiritual angst over it.
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- SamuraiDave
- 2 months ago
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THE VATICAN KNOWS THE TRUTH AND THEY'VE ALWAYS KNOWN ABOUT EXTRATERRASTRIAL LIFE ON THIS PLANET.
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- keithponder
- 2 months ago
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I SAW JUST A BARKING GERMAN PASTOR.
THAT'S IT -
It would be awesome if we could all live to see the first Pope in space.
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- MissJonaLyn
- 2 months ago
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This is a very interesting admittance by the Vatican. I believe the fact that they are willing to say this publicly means they have some information the American public would be very interested in hearing. It seems to me there prepping the public for some shocking news in the future, like I don't know, aliens are in fact... A fact. Then the church can easily claim to have supported this theory all along. Saying this new information does not, in any way disprove the church.
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- natedawson
- 2 months ago
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The Vatican says believing in aliens is okay, but women as priests not. Thank you very much Mr. Pope...great fusion of publicity and fluff.
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the pope: a man who was a nazi youth. go ahead lemmings, follow your leader.
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24French: Right on target. But gee, so glad to have their permission. After all, with all of the problems the world has it is just so comforting to know this is what they care about. How arrogant of them to think I need their permission to believe in anything.
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- JanforGore
- 2 months ago
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As long as those aliens aren't gay.....
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You nailed it on the head uroborus8 (no pun intended!)
Will there be aliens in Hell?
Is "anal probing" still gay if it's done in the name of alien science?
Strange that the all-knowing super-deity that "inspired" the scribes who wrote the Bible failed to discuss aliens on other planets, nor if the abduction and, uh, "probing" of US citizens was a sin or not.
"If thy alien brethern doth use their machines to probe my People anally that is an abomination in my eyes and the aliens shall be cursed to the seventh generation!"
Maybe that's what caused the Rosewell crash in 1945! I mean if God would send hurricanes to New Orleans because of homosexuals surely He could smite alien spaceships as punishment for mechanically sodomizing humans. -
The Vatican is so ambiguous, aliens are fair game for Catholicism, but birth control pills are sinful.
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Well i'm glad they cleared that one up.
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- starlightblue
- 2 months ago
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Do aliens have souls or would they be considered souless since that is usually regarded as a uniquely human trait?
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Natedawson took my comment :-/
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- keeshii768
- 2 months ago
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The Catholic church is slowly leaning towards allowing women Priests, there are already women who are leading their Catholic communities in small towns all over the US and South America- however they don't have the title as Parish Priests. Most these women are nuns, but they are treated by their communities as priests. The church recognizes these women 100%.
The church is also moving towards the idea of letting priests marry. You have to recognize that within an institution of such magnitude, change takes a lot of time.
This pope was pegged to be a super conservative enforcer, and he has proven to be otherwise- rather humble and quite open-minded. We'll see what happens in the Catholic church's future, but even the Vatican is humming with ideas on how to revive their faith and not fall apart during changing times.
PS- always knew the pope was a sci-fi kid. kneeeeeew it. -
Man I tried to make a serious comment on this article and then I read uroborus8's post and I lost it, I did however spit soda all over my imac.
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- rabidlemur
- 2 months ago
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Apparently its also ok to wear Woody's hat from Toy Story too. Yay
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- chillwillNJ
- 2 months ago
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Might this be because the pope himself bears a strong resemblance to Yoda??? ... food for thought
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Im personally offended by this. I have never understood why people follow religion. Its fine, it makes people happy then whatever. But it confuses me how they can sit there and tell people "its ok, you followers can belive in aliens".
I perfer in not running errands for a figment of my imagination. -
WOW-That's a relief. Now, if they'll finally give us the go ahead to believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus & the Tooth Fairy we'll all be able to sleep even better at night knowing they're keeping our thoughts in their best interest, as they have for the last 2000 years. You just have to keep watching where your mind goes so you don't step in a pile of dogma. That is a pretty cool hat though.
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- darkhorsejim
- 2 months ago
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remember kids...
yes to aliens
no to masturbation-
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- iammyfathersson
- 2 months ago
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nice hat buddy.
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- stephenthomson
- 2 months ago
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Q: Is there life out there?
A: "IS THE POPE AN ALIEN?!"-
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- joebrilliant
- 2 months ago
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makes sense, glad to finaly hear it.
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IT'S VERY, VERY MOVING FOR ME SEE YOUR COMMENTS! I FEEL (ALMOST TOUCH) YOUR FREEDOM OF THINKIN' AND THIS IS NEVER, I SAY NEVER, DAILY AVAILABLE IN THE ITALIAN NEWSPAPERS.
THANK YOU ALL
MEIBE CURRENT IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO BE -
When did the Pope become a Red Hat Lady? Is there more we should know?
I think the film industry has been preparing us for the alien 'news' for years - so, Is the Pope an alien?
uborus3 - LOL! good one. -
The popes an alien!
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It is OK with the Pope if I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
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- marcozarco
- 2 months ago
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You all are some funny MF’s!
I like the pointy hat on him better, reminds me of who we’re really dealing with…
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I see from reading these comments that most people aren't interested in having a consistent worldview (or a worldview, at all).
Presumably this is because its thoroughly modern to go about believing and disbelieving things willy-nilly with no regard for how your beliefs (e.g., about the existence of aliens; do animals have souls; should women be priests) cohere with other beliefs you have.
Why does it strike some of you as strange that an institution dedicated to articulating a vision of the Good Life would seek to harmonize ancient beliefs with modern discoveries?
Even more, why think it strange than an institution would have procedures in place that allow for the articulation of a position? Further, why think it strange that a community centered around a particular set of BELIEFS would safeguard those beliefs against the passing winds of unjustified skepticism.
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- BooksBrown
- 2 months ago
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Close encounters of the papal kind?
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- JanforGore
- 2 months ago
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Funes recent L'Osservatore Romano interview, which has garnered much press, is not the first time the Vatican has gone on the record with regards to embracing the concept of alien life. A colleague of Funes', Brother Guy Consolmagno, the director of the Vatican Observatory's Research Group, which is based at Arizona's Steward Observatory, published a 48-page pamphlet on the subject in 2005 entitled "Intelligent Life in the Universe? Catholic Belief and the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligent Life." In it, he posed many religious and philosophical questions about alien life: Do aliens have souls? Are they were subject to original sin? Do they need to be baptized and have a belief in Jesus in order to be saved? Do they even need to be saved? And if so, do we have the right to evangelize alien cultures?
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- AndreaKnoll
- 2 months ago
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So female aliens came from a male alien's rib, right? I'm serious, I've got $5 bucks riding on this ...
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The Vatican apologised for the church's role in the holocaust. The Vatican is now, in it's way apologising now for the blood shed of ancient scientists the church persecuted for having 'heritcal' *yet accurate* views of the planet - the sun etc. Galileo comes to mind. I don't believe for a second that the church is 'holding' info for the reality of ET. I just believe they don't want people leaving the opportunity of having a religous faith in Christ, if they also want to be open to LiIFE anywhere else. Jesus Christ is the ULTIMATE ET....
Have faith that God exists in a dimension that is more far out there than just 'space'.
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- RobiannaDanna
- 2 months ago
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Thank You Pope for telling me what I can and can't believe in!
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And so began the space crusades.
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- IAmTheWalter
- 2 months ago
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Perhaps the pope is really an alien and merely inviting us all to accept and his loving kind of species.
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Why not just have a belief? One's OWN belief, based on pragmatic research and understanding of all the facts and (mis) information.
or, set the controls to autopilot and just hope your way through it.
You can choose a 'Ready-Guide' in some Celestial Voice
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill
I will choose a path that's clear
I will choose Free Will
G-alien....THAT'S Hiiiiii-larious.-
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- 1MillionMonkeys
- 2 months ago
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'ones own belief'....just what exactly is 'one's own belief?'
Is that like believing whatever you want, regardless the evidence?
or is it...
only believing those things that you have personally confirmed as being more likely true than false
or is it...
never holding a belief that is identical to a person in position of authority
the fact that some people stake no claim to an intellectual/spiritual tradition is painfully obvious.
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- BooksBrown
- 2 months ago
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Well, scoff if y'all must -- but it's heartening to me to see a traditional religious sect with so many no-no-no's, actually attempting to give science a chance. Another scientific arena where they haven't bowed to fundamentalism is their acceptance of the theory of evolution. So, even though they've got quite a ways to go in many other areas, let's give them credit for not being totally in the scientific dark ages.
