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You ever find you're just so lost that you don’t even understand what you're feeling anymore, like life on a systematic basis continues, but your mind lays somewhere so far beyond that that you don’t even know how to act anymore, or why, how to be true to yourself when it seems like the whole world is just following some great regime that really doesn’t mean shit when you look at the basics. The people you love, they slowly start to disappear through distance through lack of effort, through death... and you're left asking the one simple question, what am I doing and why...?

How much impact can one man make, I speak not of extraordinary cases, but real people who have a dream, but struggle on a daily basis to stay focused...

I really want to know. What can I do that could possibly be of any real significance...?

I try not to lose faith and not to lose hope, I refuse to seek refuge in religion, money, love, it has to be from one person... a search of validation, a quest for a greater purpose that cannot be ruled or dictated by any other man...

The question is am I crazy, am I just chatting shit or am I tapping into a fundamental hope?

I want nothing more than self realization.

And your views.

Kiko
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21 responses // Do you ever find you're just so lost...

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    kiko_deep
  • 2 example of individuals that have made hella waves [with the support of other that they united thru their vision]: Malcolm X & George Bush

    even though it took Malcolm a while wake up from the b.s. that elijah muhammad was teaching i doubt that islam & living a righteous inclusive revolutionary lifestyle would have ever become so popular with black americans if it weren't for him...no black panthers, public enemy, dead prez, etc.

    & as far as W is concerned when i graduated high school in 2001 i could never have imagined that our world would be sooo different 7 years later.

    you have to be the change you want to see in the world...everyday. hold on to your 3 treasures:

    patience
    compassion
    simplicity

    other than that my advice is to read the tao te ching.
  • i remember a saying that goes something like this.

    you may find yourself when you are lost in others.

    just a thought. good luck in your noble quest.
    1Eco_Media
  • At the risk of sounding like a complete dork I'm going to say it... Stephen Covey, The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. The man is tuned in and is perhaps one of the greatest teachers on this topic. He also draws from the philosophies of some of our most profound thinkers. Viktor Frankl, Marcus Aurelius, Lao Tzu, Benjamin Franklin, Gandhi, Henry David Thoreau... the list goes on and on and on. Dr. Covey's books are great, but listening to him speak is an experience.
    Hawkmang
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    i looked for Stephen Covey on youtube, he has pretty much the same philosophy as Jorge Bucay


    self realization?
    what is self realization, kiko?


    jade_azul16
  • jade_azul16, I've never heard of Jorge Bucay. Do you have any recommendations?
    Hawkmang
  • he's from Argentina, I am not sure if any of his books are available in English...

    all of his books are amazing, (but not perfect) :)

    jade_azul16
  • "De la autoestima al egoísmo" (From Self-Esteem to Egotism) (1999)

    "Recuentos para Demián" (Stories for Demián) (1994)

    jade_azul16
  • kiko, i don't know if this is what you are looking for, but i'll post it here, just in case
    jade_azul16
  • guys thanx so much for the posts, i watched the link for Randy Pausch, very inspirational.

    Self Realization, to me at least, is the realization of your true self. Not you job, not your surrounding or your friends, but who you are inside and your purpose for being here in this world.

    I guess a kinda of enlightenment.
    kiko_deep
  • If you can master your basic emotions, ones that affect us all, you will gain enlightenment.
    Anger
    Fear
    Hurt
    Sadness
    Loneliness
    Guilt
    Joy
    And the most understood emotion,
    Shame.

    Emotions are only conjured after a thought. Gaining wisdom into your thinking transforms your perception.
    Anger unexamined turns to Rage
    Fear unexamined turns to Panic
    Hurt unexamined turns to Hopelessness
    Sadness unexamined turns to Depression
    Loneliness unexamined turns to Helplessness
    Guilt unexamined turns to Immobility
    Joy unexamined turns to Hysteria
    Shame unexamined turns to Worthlessness
    -Shame, in my opinion, is the leading cause of suicide.
    Pwdrskir
  • mate i've been reading "the power of the now" his first book, periodically through and through over the last 4 years, it changed my life and the way i look at my own emotions and reactions. It has actually brought me a great meny things and is a great philosophy to try to live by but still leaves unanswered some of the bigger questions.

    stil if you havent already you should check it out
    kiko_deep
  • Nothing new here. Be an honest person. Honest with everyone, no matter how difficult it may seem. Most important, stay true to yourself.
    My basic life guidelines are summed up in "The Sermon on the Mount". Treat all as you would wish to be treated.
    My enlightenment as to who I am, my purpose and potential is an ongoing process. I'm influenced by everything around me. My ego is the only obstacle to what I learn along the way so, striving for humilty is a lifelong goal. That's about it, really.
    Godspeed in your quest.
    huntre
  • back in the late 70s and early 80s i did the est Training, which is now morphed and renamed and can be connected to via this site....

    http://www.landmarkeducation.com/

    it made a big difference in my life and my relationships with others. not a cure-all, by any means, but a major transformational instrument in terms of taking responsibility for your actions and reactions in and to the world around you.

    books about Werner Erhard and the est Training also contain a lot of the basic foundational concepts.

    on the scale of "consciousness" it's not the problem of being too low on the scale; the problem is that most folks aren't ON the scale. it takes a bit of a jump to get up to the "zero" end before you can go further up.
    plusaf
  • I feel insignificant. In the grand scheme of things, if I were to go at this moment, there are a couple of people who would shed many tears and maybe a couple that will truly miss me. But the world won't stop, life will keep going without me, and the ripple of my absence will only go so far. My goal, in this present space and time, is to recognize the fact that I have the power to affect people, things and events around me.

    I used to rack my brain thinking about the meaning of life, why 'I am'. At 27, I've decided I'm going to give meaning to my own life because essentially, it's the only thing left to do!
    Neghie
  • I think you have realized yourself. The question posed above is a great example : )

    Personally, I'd recommend not getting too heady about the matter as intellect can run you in circles some times. Whenever you get to the "i don't know where to go" point, take a walk, ride a bike, clean your apartment, ect. Do some thing physical. When you're done and have all the endorphins coursing through you think about the problem again from this different mind frame. I find that it helps me see things more clearly.



  • enlightment?

    nirvana?

    hehe, follow buddhism then, :P
    jade_azul16
  • @Neghie... you are on your way to enlightenment. congratulations.

    be the best you can, have the most fun you can and hurt the least number of people you can [and furry animals, too... :)]

    a science fiction writer, Robert Anson Heinlein once put it this way: "Human beings are the otters of the universe"... they just want to have fun, reproduce and live their lives.

    all the rest is BS.

    i believe he was right.

    and it doesn't mean you can't have fun at a job and have a rewarding relationship with one or more or many people in your life.

    i wish you well, and ENJOY!
    plusaf
  • Disengagement is fairly common. To me, at least, the secret is fairly simple. The purpose of this life is to serve others. That' how you plug in. We all need each other.
    jsburman
  • @jsburman.... there's a slippery slope to that one, and if you've ever read Atlas Shrugged, you'll know where it ends up.

    i do not live to serve anyone.

    that does not mean i'm not NICE to people, or don't donate to charities and such.

    but when your "purpose is to serve others" they tend to want more and more and more and more and more.... and if "you're only there to serve them," it quickly tends to end up with THEM being the decision-makers as to "how much."

    just thought i'd warn you....
    plusaf
  • Funny. That's never been a problem for me.
    jsburman

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