Thousands of women have four abortions by age 30
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Figures uncovered by the Telegraph show that almost 4,000 women have had at least four abortions. In a "grotesquely bleak" picture of British society, scores of women have had at least eight terminations. The figures emerged as the row over controversial changes to fertility law erupted into a bitter war of words, with a minister accusing "anti-abortion" MPs of trying to "hijack" legislation. Nadine Dorries, the MP leading the campaign to reduce the abortion time limit from 24 to 20 weeks, hit back at the criticism, while revealing that she has received hate mail over her stance. Miss Primarolo made her comments as the Government braced itself for a difficult two days of debate on the Bill, which has been denounced by Christian MPs and clerics. It emerged on Saturday that NHS doctors were refusing to carry out late procedures and that 75 per cent of the 7,000 terminations performed after 17 weeks of pregnancy each year were being carried out at private clinics and charities. Department of Health figures uncovered by this newspaper show that during 2006 more than 3,800 women underwent at least their fourth abortion, including more than 1,300 who were on their fifth or more. Of more than 60,000 women who underwent a "repeat" abortion, almost 15,000 were on their third. These included 65 women who had their sixth abortion by the age of 30, and 82 girls aged under 18 who had already experienced three, and more than 50 women who had had eight abortions or more.
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I really feel sorry and pray for them! Women have the right to chose but they also must be aware of the latter Physical, Spiritual and Psychological consequences of refusing a child. What society needs is to keep giving them; (The Women); the choice but in addition support.
Giving birth to a child is not a small job! Actually, It is the biggest Job in the Universe!
I am saying: "Give Love, respect and support for Women with food, shelter, financial help and compassion! I'll bet they would think twice before abort it! -
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The hysteria with which this article is written ignores the fact that women are capable of making their own decisions and should be able to do so.
"Doctors are horrified by the prospect that the HFE bill is to be used as the means to reduce abortion time limits in Britain. 'People think abortions are what little girls or feckless women have, and that's just not true,' says Guthrie. 'For some women their circumstances are such that the only solution for them, after heart-searching, is to turn to abortion. To patronise women this way is treating them as if they are not capable of self-determination and decision-making, which is not credible in Western society today'."-
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- mischabarrett
- 4 months ago
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Word, stopnoise.
Onondaga Faithkeeper Oren Lyons says the prophecies warned to "watch how people treat the children" to recognize the times we live in now. Chief Oren Lyons also says "We are responsible to make the decisions for the 7th generation."
Women and children worldwide are in ever increasing danger. Women and children worldwide are the innocent victims of wars, violence, domestic abuse, poverty, hunger, environmental degradation, sexual abuse and societal and religious intolerance and discrimination, wage inequality, as well as being bombarded with toxins in food, water, air and soil that affect women and children and their reproductive systems and the very genes they pass to future generations.
High rates of abortion in the UK are a symptom of the hostile world in which pregnant women live.
We can create a world where pregnant women are honored and choose life because they know they will be able to care for their child with dignity.
Work to realize the UN Millenium Goals based on the knowledge that healthy mothers build healthy nations and world peace.
Go to this link for UN Millenium Goals -
http://current.com/items/88884878_the_un_millennium_dev...
Painting "Dreaming of Her Birth" by Charleen Touchette, 1989 -1994 -
If I remember correctly, Hubert Humphrey, former United States Senator and Vice President of The United States said that you can tell the measure of a society by the way it treats the least of it's citizens...
No matter what anyone personally believes about a "Right to choose" it's certainly a bad sign for any society to relish and advocate for the death of it's unborn citizens.
I have to believe that the best of the American Indian philosophers understood this and still do.-
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- PatrickEdwardMurray
- 4 months ago
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In one of his recent books, President Jimmy Carter said that 2/3 of Abortions happen because the mother does not know how she will be able to cope.
Why is it that we do everything we can to blare the word "Choice" but when the cards are played, we don't come through for the expectant mothers and help them with food & shelter and a future?
Even God himself can forgive (just google The Chaplet of Divine Mercy and read about the promises of Jesus to St. Faustina) so why can't we?-
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- PatrickEdwardMurray
- 4 months ago
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I don't understand what is wrong with adoption... do theses women not have a consensence... just stop having unprotected sex or get your tubes tied. 3 abortions before you're eighteen...INSANE. There are thousands of couples out there who would love to take in a baby from any situation and raise it as there own... I don't see how abortion could even be an option
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may god forgive them i dont iknow .iam heartless but what they are doingis so wrong.
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- rambojesus
- 4 months ago
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MAKE BIRTH CONTROL AFFORDABLE. I'm tired of paying $50 a month while Viagra patients pay less.
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I am very pro-choice, but i would never let my gf or wife get an abortion. 1 is fine, anymore then that then you have major problems.
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abortions = less traffic
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- Wessagusset_Oracle
- 4 months ago
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Birth control should become more attainable, so abortions won't be a problem. I am pro-choice, but hell after a while all them abortions will take a toll on you.
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I personally can't wait to have my first baby someday. If I got accidentally pregnant now, I would keep the little guy. But that's just me. I wouldn't want anyone to have to be FORCED to carry a baby to term that she didn't want to have.
There is nothing grotesquely bleak about having abortions, even more than one abortion.
It's a woman's right to make that decision in a modern, educated society.
Let's take care of the children that are already here, make sure they are warm and well fed, clothed and well-educated, not bullied or abused by anyone. May all the children have a loving and safe environment to grow up in, and parents (of any gender) who love them and are available to them -- not off fighting wars. The "grotesquely bleak" truth is that many children lack these basic rights and comforts. That's grotesquely bleak. Not the abortions.-
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- Julie_Soller
- 4 months ago
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Notice that more than 2/3 of the readers of the abovementioned clipping voted against it.
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- Julie_Soller
- 4 months ago
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Well it is "grotesquely bleak" that some people are having their forth to eight abortions, at some point one has to tell themselves to stop having sex or at the very least start using contraceptives properly, I mean damn a condom is 75 cents at a gas station and free at pregnancy clinics.
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- AswegoAsdego
- 4 months ago
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i am not anti abortion but 4 times? did they not figure out how it happened the first 3 times? come on are they giving anymore info on the statistics of this report? im curious to know some of the educational and ethinc statistics. my final question why not opt for steralization if your already spending and arm and a leg on abortion?
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- starlightblue
- 4 months ago
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Mischabarrett, It appears to me that what you are transcribing, it shows a make believe Western Culture of Denial towards Women in times of Spiritual, Physical and Psychological Stress of Pre-Natal and Post-Natal phase of their lives.
Somehow, somewhere I do sense a "jerk" spirit raising from this form of thinking claiming itself to be the "Status Quo" of our Western Thinking and Civilization. A spirit that supports a philosophy of denial and deception towards Women going through Motherhood so everyone will fell comfortable in denying support for them.
Sick and Psycho Killer!
First, only a pregnant Women have the right to express to us how hard it is to go through a conceptional pre-natal and post natal phase of the child's birthday! Only her can express how she feels to be abandoned without support.
I am absolutely not questioning women's free self-determination, neither their ability of decision making. What I am saying is that I am willing to give to them a choice. In my views it is like having an USA Institution that gives support to pre-natal happenings for women going through this time in their lives.
First I am not interfering with anyone's wishes to abort. Some rare circumstances are necessary because of genetical or physical health issues that can affect the life of the Child or the Mother.
What I am saying is that I am willing to give to them a choice to have their child on a environment of Love, Care and Support. That has nothing to do with Patronization but with respect for Women's Life in time of Birth.
We as a Civilization should cultivate respect for ourselves and for others, otherwise we will end up to create a deception movie from our short life time here on Earth missing the opportunity to elevate ourselves from this "mediocre jerk" level and thinking. We got to be a little better than that for GOD Sake!
I really do not want to; in the end of my life; face the Spirit of GOD and have to tell Him and Her that I expended my life behaving like a "Selfish Jerk in Denial" towards those that brought my own life to the World. -
Wow! I am pro-choice, but I am totally against people using abortion as a form of birth control! My goodness! Did your parents or your schools not teach you about birth control, condoms and diaphrams?! Are you seriously telling me 8! EIGHT! Abortions?
I mean, what are the circumstances I just don't see how a human being of average intelligence could make the same mistake 8 times!
On the other side of the coin though, I agree they need support physically, psychologically and spiritually, too. They also need to find the common factors in the abortions and avoid further ravaging of their uterus'... uteri? I don't know... does anyone else?
anyway,.... so, perhaps, if they choose, they can still bare a child. I worry a lot for these women, but this information bothers me a lot. I am very pro-choice, but I just can't wrap my head around 8 times. Wow! -
Very good report on the subject. Thank you for posting an important issue.
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- FaceTheWorld
- 4 months ago
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A lot has to do with not having the right sperm donor. It's just fun sexual encounters that have consequences. Irresponsibility and a solution to the life changing experience.
If animals could have abortions, they would have them. -
It's propaganda guys. No one is that careless. I don't believe an abortion is all that much fun even if you can get past terminating a life. It is just anti abortion rhetoric. While I'm not for abortions I don't think they should be outlawed either.
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- Marilynn_Murray
- 4 months ago
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It’s not impossible for someone to have eight abortions. I have a friend who’s had six and I can tell you that girl definitely needs help.
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Margaret Sanger was a racist, and she's getting her fondest wish, black babies wiped out in amazing numbers.
What is so bad about giving a baby up for adoption? If people had to follow through with the consequences of their irresponsible actions, maybe they would be less careless.-
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- historyeducation
- 4 months ago
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Abortions are not the problem. Women who use it as birth control are. There are several reasons why a woman may 'choose' to have an abortion and it's no one's place to judge. I would hope, however, that these women who seem to get into that same predicament realize they're decisions to make the same mistakes over and over again is beyond a trip to the clinic.
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maybe they like creating life and then killing it, must be fun for them
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Disgusting irresponsible whores... Yea, I called them whores, if they are reaching a point of having 2,3,4 or more abortions they should have their tubes tied. I realize it's a womans right to have an abortion but there needs to be something done about those who abuse that right. While I can understand (not respect) a womans decision that raising child may not be right for her at that time repeat aborters should suffer something because they can't fling their cooch around responsibly. Just FYI I don't apply this same logic to cases of rape, incest or mothers health.
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- Liberal_Extinction
- 4 months ago
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With overpopulation, and the current state of the world, it would be difficult to raise so many children if you had such a low income. It's sad to think about, but it's almost like thousands of mercy killings. If these children were born, they most likely wouldn't even get adopted.
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- MissJonaLyn
- 4 months ago
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Hey Touchart, I totally agree with you! Without the "Word" our Spirits regress and in the end our physical lives will pay for it.
However how to even try to tell people that they are Spiritually and psychologically blind about it! They have been brain washed at schools, and at home with what TV or some of their parents says.
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Jonalyn, maybe we could go around harvesting the poor children and putting them out of their misery.
In case you haven't heard, there is a seriously long list of parents waiting to adopt.
If we show people that children are worthy of life, even if inconvenient, and that people are responsible to follow through on the consequences of their decisions, and give the baby up for adoption, maybe we could start to turn around the cesspool culture in this country. Decades of abortion rights haven't done that.-
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- historyeducation
- 4 months ago
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Surgery of all kinds is increasing. As it becomes more available, more will use it. The pendulum will swing back the other way in time, most likely.
to counteract so many women relying on the surgery, I'd say that TONS more contraception education is made available to the public and cheaper contraception methods. make the pill safer and cheaper, and I bet more people would use it. -
This is very upsetting. What the hell is going on? Have these women not heard of contraception?
HELLO, there is no need for 5th or 6th abortions if you just either use contraception or keep your trap shut.
It is a no brainer. This is what I was talking about under another thread of using abortion as birth control. I am in favor of keeping abortion safe and legal, but women this kind of story only serves the Right Wing Anti Abortionists. -
I'm not sure what's so "grotesquely bleak" about this story.
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- pseudointellectual
- 4 months ago
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I totally agree historyeducation. Many people do not know that, that witch Margaret Sanger was a racist. She wanted minority babies and others dead and she's sadly getting that wish.
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- ctrl_alt_del
- 4 months ago
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Thank you, jubal, for repeating the whole 'using abortion as birth control' point. It's true! While I understand several of these views, (adoption, over population... blah blah blah... I agree with ALL that... hard core for adoption OVER procreating) I want abortion to stay safe and legal because some people aren't ready to be parents and I believe that a spirit chooses it's parents, so either it will return your next pregnancy or choose again.... you merely kill a being a size of a spider. (which I also believe reincarnates)
Also, I am all for population control... not like China population control, but population control non the less. Yes, I also think these may either be stupid (which makes it good they aren't following through with procreation) or whores, or BOTH, I mean... due to the physical, spiritual and psychological affects of an abortion, what goes through your head when you go in for your 4th abortion,... your 5th, your 6th.... I just cannot fathom how they must feel no matter what my personal opinion may be about their moral character. -
any weeping pro-lifer who drones on about the evils of abortion is just another hypocrite unless they have adopted some kids - go ahead and cry as they will , "prevention" is easier to advocate than actually adopting some of the kids who are already in this world , due to not being aborted , and need good homes .
it's usually the case that these oh-so-spiritually sympathetic types would sooner adopt a kid from africa ( or burn incense , listen to some new-age music and get in touch with the "elders" ) than helping out a human being in their own country and one whom faces a childhood of being shifted around through foster homes , and becoming a prime candidate for growing up to have an abortion themselves .
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Abortions are every bit immoral as masturbation and mensruation. Get over it people.
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- Dmitri_Molotov
- 4 months ago
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what sluts... so where do they all hang out?
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Four abortions before age 30? Great day! Somebody is just freaking careless or ignorant, one! These strumpets ain't heard of condoms, pills, the sponge, or just ceasing to screw? Most of the best and most effective prevention is available free from somewhere, somewhere these feckless sluts need to be Google mapping.
This is not only silly, but physically harmful to the women having this many abortions. That, and wonders never cease. It's always these cows who, at 40 years old, will congregate at some fertility clinic to have the babies they aborted before the age of 30, willing to have all five of them in one pregnancy. Go figure!
