Clinton to Obama: Not so fast
- added May 19, 2008
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- kushan
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Hillary Clinton had a warning on Monday for rival Barack Obama, who is on the verge of claiming the U.S. Democratic presidential nomination: Not so fast.
"This is nowhere near over," Clinton said at a rally in Maysville, Kentucky, pressing ahead with her long shot bid for the White House even as Obama focuses on November's general election match-up with Republican John McCain.
Despite Obama's almost unassailable lead in delegates who will select the nominee at the August Democratic convention, Clinton repeatedly has shrugged off calls to quit the race before the last of the voting concludes on June 3.
She warned the Illinois senator against premature victory celebrations one day before Kentucky and Oregon cast ballots in the lengthy Democratic White House fight.
"None of us is going to have the number of delegates we're going to need to get to the nomination, although I understand my opponent and his supporters are going to claim that," Clinton, a New York senator, said in Maysville.
Obama expects to claim a majority of pledged delegates won in the state-by-state races after Tuesday's returns, but he will still be about 75 short of the 2,026 needed to clinch the nomination without further help from superdelegates -- party officials who are free to back any candidate.
Obama contends the remaining undecided superdelegates, who have been trending his way heavily in recent weeks, should back the candidate who won the most delegates in state voting.
But Clinton says superdelegates should consider her argument that she will make a stronger general election foe for McCain, and her victories in big states like Pennsylvania and Ohio give her a better base than Obama has managed.
"This is nowhere near over," Clinton said at a rally in Maysville, Kentucky, pressing ahead with her long shot bid for the White House even as Obama focuses on November's general election match-up with Republican John McCain.
Despite Obama's almost unassailable lead in delegates who will select the nominee at the August Democratic convention, Clinton repeatedly has shrugged off calls to quit the race before the last of the voting concludes on June 3.
She warned the Illinois senator against premature victory celebrations one day before Kentucky and Oregon cast ballots in the lengthy Democratic White House fight.
"None of us is going to have the number of delegates we're going to need to get to the nomination, although I understand my opponent and his supporters are going to claim that," Clinton, a New York senator, said in Maysville.
Obama expects to claim a majority of pledged delegates won in the state-by-state races after Tuesday's returns, but he will still be about 75 short of the 2,026 needed to clinch the nomination without further help from superdelegates -- party officials who are free to back any candidate.
Obama contends the remaining undecided superdelegates, who have been trending his way heavily in recent weeks, should back the candidate who won the most delegates in state voting.
But Clinton says superdelegates should consider her argument that she will make a stronger general election foe for McCain, and her victories in big states like Pennsylvania and Ohio give her a better base than Obama has managed.
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They will think about her on their way to voting for Obama. He spoke to 75,000 in Oregon. She spoke to 500 in Kentucky. 500 is not exactly a landslide.
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- Marilynn_Murray
- 3 months ago
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"Wait, did you hear something? Nah, didn't think so. Off to vote for Obama."
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it reminds me of this handicapped kid i grew up with. he would beat his head against solid objects. i do not think that he ever accomplished anything by it, but he kept doing it over and over and over and over. much like the delusional Clinton campaign.
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- chet_arthur
- 3 months ago
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As long as she keeps it positive, I don't see why anyone should have an issue with her staying in the race until one of them hits the 2,026 number. It's only when she strays into the "hard-working Americans, white Americans" kind of crap that makes people want her out of the race. That kind of talk isn't helpful to the party or her legacy, and I think had a lot to do with Edwards deciding to make his preference public.
If she can keep it clean she should be allowed to play it out and exit on her terms...if she can't, then I expect we'll see another big endorsement to send her a message for the good of the party (cue Mr. Gore). -
Seems to me Obama supporters are far too fanatical, they will be the most disapointed when they see Obama is just another politician just like all the others before him. I will be happy with either Hillary or Obama as long as a republican does not win the white house, I am a little worried about Obama's chances as time goes on but we'll see what happens.
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- observer2121
- 3 months ago
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She needs to let it go. The Hillogical math isn't even flying in her own camp these days. And, Obama is just not going to settle her campaign debts just to get rid of her. She has already lost the cash and the nomination! She's going to be a Senator, come January 2009, when Obama takes oath to clean up Dumya's burning bags of doodoo.
I don't know why Hillary's still holding on so tight at this point. It's not as though she has enough nickels raked together anywhere this late in the game to wage actual war against Gramps until November. Nothing would bode worse for the Democrats than having HIll and Bill gaming the system out the coveted nomination, committing a gazillion more dollars to the fight in more loans-to-self, only for her surrogates to campaign against the deviant RethunCons and their evil neoWhig corporate pals the same feckless way she pathetically has against the Illinois Neophyte. Against whom SHE COULD NOT CLOSE THE DEAL!!!
Hillary, sweetie, It's over! Let it go. Concede and go on back to the Senate before your debts for this campaign exceed the National Debt under Forrest Dumya Gump.-
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- 96thdayofrage
- 3 months ago
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Hillary will not win this race, unfortunately. I believe that neither candidate is suitable for the position but Hillary is the better choice. If the media had not told her to call it quits so long ago, she may still have a chance. With all of the media saying that she should call it quits and that Obama has it won, there is the slightest chance that she will take this. Obama's ridiculous politics of calling the victory so early is stupid and I would have hoped that he would have had enough votes before claiming the victory.
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- Hunter2323
- 3 months ago
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When has Obama claimed victory? Hasn't happened, in fact he's done the exact opposite. Yes, the media is reporting that it mathematically improbable for Clinton to catch him, but that is the truth. You might think that Clinton is the better candidate, many of us disagree...but it's the voters who have made the decision, not the media. In fact, I'd be willing to bet if had been any other candidate the media would have "called it" long before they did.
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Fo sho, know your sources, that is very important in an age of spin.
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I'm tired of pushing. Obama will clinch the nomination soon enough and there's nothing Hillary's clamoring will do to stop it. For him, or anyone else, to even acknowledge her campaign only gives credence to her claims of clinging to some scraps of hope. But that's just me, it would appear that McCain and Barack have ALREADY moved past Clinton and have began looking toward each other and November.
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"If the media had not told her to call it quits so long ago, she may still have a chance." That wasn't the media. Those were Dems like Chris Dodd and Nancy Pelosi in her outside voice for a change.
Actually, Obama has been holding off from declaring victory until this point. He only said that if by such-and-such date, were there was no change in this for Hillary, he was going to start campaigning against Grampers like the nominee should. And, that's wise. Hillary has had every opportunity to do the same thing. She has instead devoted her time, resources, and attention to whining about Florida and Michigan, making false claims, and divisively pointing out that Obama is not polling well in her Republican Appalacian stronghold, an area that is not going to support a Democrat anyway. She should have been trying to beat Obama to the punch of calling out Dumya and McSame after Dumya showed his behind on the Knessett floor, showing out. That's the roll of the nominee!
She's not going to get the nomination. And, Obama is going to be the next President. So, Hillary needs to get back to the Senate for New York while she still has that seat. I retierate, Hillary is still going to be a Senator in January 2009 when Obama is sworn into Office.-
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- 96thdayofrage
- 3 months ago
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2026 is the magic number... but maybe John Lennon was right...
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poor lady
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- keithponder
- 3 months ago
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Not so fast, just because he has more votes, states, and delegates doesn't mean she'll actually admit she... lost.
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Krag you make a valid point but don't you think that the majority of the population is swayed way to easily? If the media says that the race is done, people will say that they want their vote to count and vote for Obama. I don't think that this is right at all that people are so easily swayed and if they are it makes me question how strong they are behind their candidate, but isn't this how things work?
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- Hunter2323
- 3 months ago
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I'm not sure that's the case. At lease it didn't seem to be in West Virginia. But as I said before, I don't think she should be pushed out of the race as long as she keeps it clean. It's clear the Obama campaign isn't going to do much pushing. They have fallen all over themselves to be complimentary ever since it became clear the numbers were in their favor. They are courting her supporters and aren't going to risk doing anything to alienate them.
Look, she ran a hard, close race. She should be commended for it (at least the parts that weren't dirty) and as long as she's not doing damage, I don't see a reason why should drop out before the magic number is hit. But after that, I think it's time for her to step aside and start campaigning for Obama and repairing her strained standing. Of course that's just my opinion...I'm sure many will disagree on both sides. -
And who determines if it's clean or not?
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No such thing as a clean campaign but Obama sure as hell seems to be trying
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I don't know John...how do you feel about the "hard-working Americans, white Americans" quote? You want to defend it? I think reasonable people can agree, that kind of crap is out of line. Seems like she's moved past that sort of behavior, but I guess we'll see what she says after Kentucky.
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Obama supporters are not just fanatical. It's clear why we should support Obama and not Hillary. It's over for her, and she keeps digging herself deeper. How can we trust someone to lead our country who can't even be responsible enough to pay her own debts?
Obama = Change, Hillary = Tired
I've got Clinton Fatigue. Show yours.
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- asiantoast
- 3 months ago
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Marilynn-Murray, Krag2112,
Marilynn-Murray,
Hillary won Kentucky over Obama 72% to Obama's 23% in Kentucky I know I was there and there was over 1500 people at that rally MSNBC and CNN LIE!
They have been sighted by the FCC for being one sided and not telling the truth concerning the candidates.
CHECKOUT THE FCC WEBSITE FOR YOURSELF.
Krag2112,
It takes 2210 delegates to win the nomination not 2026.
There is 50 states in the United states not 48 and the DNC will soon meet at the end of this month to decide on Florida and Michigan. They will decide on weather to seat the delegates the way they voted.
When this is done and the DNC Rules are up held Senator Hillary Clinton will as I have stated have the popular vote as she does now and she will have over 300 more delegates added to her count.
So be ready the fact is Hillary won Florida and Michigan and that will not change and Obama can not change it and know one else can change the fact that she won them she is winning. She has the popular vote she will get the nomination and Obama with no experience will have to get some experince before he can think about running against someone that has the experience that Hillary Clinton has and trying to beat her or anyone else.
This job does not comewith on the job training.
Obama go away you have LOST!-
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- maltesetitan
- 3 months ago
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She won 65% to 30%, where did you get 72% to 23%? Do you watch Fox News/Noise?
She does NOT have the popular vote. Florida vote was fair, although neither one campaigned there, and since people know her there, she has an unfair advantage. And in Michigan he was not even on the ballad, so that vote count don't count, besides, she only got what, 55%, and she was the ONLY one on the ballad and couldn't get more then 55%, that tells you that 45% of the votes DON'T LIKE HER, what a joke, haaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
You and her need a reality check, stop making up numbers, and stop living in a fantasy. You sound like a republican!-
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- Wessagusset_Oracle
- 3 months ago
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maltesetitan sound like a FAN. Good luck with that.
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