Ellen vs. John McCain: Gay Marriage
- added May 22, 2008
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Ellen DeGeneres had the opportunity to discuss gay marriage with her special guest, Sen. John McCain. As we all know Ellen is about to marry her partner Portia de Rossi, so their views weren’t exactly the same but it was pretty funny… I think Ellen felt like strangling McCain in some point during the interview. Check out the highlights and the video below…
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I can't believe John McCain went on Ellen DeGeneres' show and said "we have a disagreement" over the legality of her marriage.
He is a very, very old man.
He does not represent the interests of the majority of Americans....or does he?-
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- Julie_Soller
- 3 months ago
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Wow. she put him on blash... Just shows that America needs some one a little more youthful to run our country. even though i have a lot of the same viewpoints as McCain.
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She has such a clear & reasonable way of explaining things. I applaud for being able to sit across from him and not get emotional (like I would!). It definitely shows she's the bigger person.
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- heather_hunter
- 3 months ago
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I didn't hear much of a sustained argument from her, though I do agree with her position - she just kinda threw some stuff out there (that's TV for you). I love it when politicians are made to squirm like this, though, even those whom I deeply admire.
Unfortunately, to give my answer to Julie's question, I do think that, on this issue, McCain absolutely represents the views of the majority. This is a generational issue that is not going to be settled overnight, especially with the conservative Supreme Court we have now. -
Obviously =) it's a controversial issue. Why not, like some other controversial issues such as "medical marijuana," let it be a state's rights issue?
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Separate, but equal. I have a strong suspicion when this matter is settled, we'll find something else to exclude a minority from or discriminate against.
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I actually agree that it should [start out] as an issue of state law.
That's one of the cool things about having all these states under the flag of one nation - we can experiment!
I personally believe that everyone should have the opportunity to marry who they choose (as marriage is not a Christian institution in any way, shape, or form).
The fact that the US is still holding to these ridiculous prejudices really @#$%ing irks me, but [supposedly] drastic social change is a complicated thing.
As has been said, on a national level, this will not happen overnight - what better way to prove to the naysayers that they are overly-paranoid, ignorant, perverse busy-bodies than by showing them that legal families headed by gay couples are just as "normal" as anything else in this screwed up world?
Just show them the states where gay marriage has been legal for many decades, with solid examples and statistics, and they will have less and less to argue against, and will inevitably fall back on their Book and their bigotry, which does not have any standing in a [supposedly] secular court of law.
(Then again, maybe Quetzalcoatl will return from the Western sky and enslave us all)
Again, I firmly believe that it should be legal in EVERY state, but I'm not naive about the throngs' ignorance or resistance to change. -
well if people believe that God made Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve, (and it sure seems like the woman's body is always very nicely tailor-made for a man and vica-versa imho) indeed they're going to feel like marriage is God-made and quite also a religious institution. In the way of challenging long-held notions of marriage that of a legal or religious union (or both) is probably understandably in my view, not as popular as some might like to think, or want it to be) It's a possibility. It's understood I think that there is a sense of ownership to define what is marriage, by EVERYONE involved; either in the traditional sense or the new shit where I guess anything freakn goes and where it stops nobody knows lol I'm only teasing humcrum ;D
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Noooo, we're talking about two consenting adults, not horses or children.
:P
It is indeed understandable that most Christians are against gay marriage, for the reasons you've listed.
However, marriage is not a Christian institution.
Marriage in a Christian church is, of course, but not marriage itself.
That's been going for just a bit longer ;)
Anyone can believe whatever they want religiously - America and all - but when it infests the government, and takes a dump on my legal rights, it becomes a problem. -
=D "...takes a dump on my legal rights." hey...lol what if untentionally that mound happened to be there already and like a mushroom you just happened to grow right underneath it? =P ...maybe a little too soon before it was completely dry? lmao
i'm just having fun with you, I promise!!! =D lol...obviously you're alright humdrum don't sweat it =D -
Heh, that does describe it better I guess. The end effect is the same, either way. Just because the horse that did the shitting died before I was born, doesn't mean I can't try and clean up its mess.
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Neghie... =D I can barely hear the wiffle of those minority souls that cry..."why only 'two' ;( ...or three" hehehe =D
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Crap. I totally didn't get that echoz. Wait..........nope.: ) Please elaborate.
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"...I have a strong suspicion when this matter is settled, we'll find something else to exclude a minority from or discriminate against." --Neghie
"...we're talking about two consenting adults..." --Humdrum
"Neghie... =D I can barely hear the wiffle of those minority souls that cry..."why only 'two' ;( ...or three..."
=D ala ménage à trois? (the French term describing a relationship or domestic arrangement in which three people...y'know...is NOT a crowd)??? =D -
The last I checked, there were many men God favored in the Bible who didn't stop at one...or two...or three. The point is, times change, people change and so do standards.
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and if anyone knows the good book, it's neghie =P hehe ...last she checked anyway =D
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haha!
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- currentkid
- 3 months ago
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