Obama accuses Rush Limbaugh and Lou Dobbs for spreading hate against immigrants

Lou Dobbs has gone from a smart man with great insight on a wide range of subjects to a talk show host who panders to peoples fears. This man is an economist and has a very goody understanding of finance. For him to be advocating the mass deportation of illegal immigrants, does not make sense. A majority of these people are law abiding that want to support there family. Yes they broke the law coming here, but the rest of the world other than the US and the other Western first world nations are the only place left where there is a middle class. The poor here at least can afford a roof over there heads and to put food on there tables. Penalize them financially, collect taxes from them, and allow them to become part of the system, rather than living in the shadows draining the system.

I cant ever see Dobbs show without turning the channel in anger, the guy is just a bitter old man.

Not against immigrants, against illegal immigrants, you do know what the term "illegal" means don't you? The fact that they are here illegally proves they are in fact not law abiding.

Hi JohnA,

Dobbs also attacks legal immigrants. For example in this link you can see how he says that people who get "employment visas" in the US are stealing American jobs. That is nothing more than a form of scapegoating.

http://www.zazona.com/Shameh1b/Library/Archives/CNNMoneyline.htm

well they are...

"The fact that they are here illegally proves they are in fact not law abiding."

It could also mean they're willing to do whatever it takes to feed themselves and their families, and maybe get a piece of the American dream. It's not that people like Lou Dobbs is advocating against illegal immigration, it's the fear and hate mongering. Like Yuval pointed out, it goes beyond illegal immigration, and what should be a cause is now a vendetta. It takes so much energy to hate. It would be much more productive to use that energy toward finding a real solution.

People are not illegal.

Illegal is wrong. Period. If you want to do things right then do them right. Don't do them wrong and go But I had the best of intentions....the road to hell was paved with good intentions.

No other country in this world has open borders like the United States. No other country has the financial hiccup we are experiencing. American's first then everyone else. That's how this country should work. Thinking that we should help everyone just because it's "nice" is killing everyone else.

I didn't say I disagreed with entering a country illegally, I disagree with labeling people as illegal.

Someone that forces someone to have sex is a rapist.
The leader of the United Stats is a president.
Give birth, raise a child be a mom.
Crossing the border under the shroud of darkness and a lie makes you illegal. If you don't want to be something don't preform the action that would label you. If it really matters that much to you.

If we crossed over to Mexico and lived their illegally we'd get into more trouble than someone that does the exact thing from Mexico to America.

Also on the border there are gangs that have killed people...kidnapped them.

The label "illegal immigrant(s)" =/= illegal(s) as a human being(s). Committing a crime doesn't make the person illegal, it makes their actions illegal.

spreading hate is never a good thing!!

no matter who is the target

Do you know that the worst name to be called is a Rapist for actions you did not commit. Such as an 18 year old who slept with a 16 year old and is charged as one. That name is stuck with that 18 year old (males for the most part). That's a horrible name.

Being called illegal for your actions that you could have chosen a DIFFERENT route of going about things is no one's fault but the person who did the crime. Don't like it don't do it.

You know what a murderer has done? Killed someone. Their action is murdering. Do you blame their action or do you name the person/ I don't think you make that clear of a distinction as you are pretending to do here.

By your own logic, it's not appropriate to have a name define you. I would prefer putting the person first, no matter what, a la "person who has committed rape" or "person who has immigrated illegally."

But I'll take your bait. Being a rapist, murderer, or illegal immigrant means that you have raped, murdered, or immigrated illegally, yes.

The distinction is that people often remove the world immigrant from the equation, and I have a problem with people removing others' humanity.

So you don't refer to anyone as boy or girl or look at that black man over there, when trying to show someone something. Or look at that fat woman. Look at that red head.

You don't do those things?

That's different than, "Look at those illegals!"

Seeing as how you can't qualify any of the things we've discussing, crimes, by sight. You can spot a black man or a redhead, you can't prejudge someone to have immigrated illegally.

But you do that. You don't call them by their right name. I believe if you're going to tell people what is wrong and how it's wrong that you too should be held to the same line of thinking in things that you do. Otherwise you stating it means you're rlying when telling someone what is 'right'.

To answer whether or not you can find and point at one come to Houston and I will drive down Westpark past 59 and you'll see 50 of them in one spot. Every single one illegal. Then there is the 95% chance of pointing to a law service and finding even more.

It is possible.

I guess you just mean via location and that I'd have to agree with because here it's too easy to spot them.

I agree that people are humans and they should be treated as such no matter what they are. But to sit there and protect people who commit crimes is wrong. Trying to pass of their illegal behavior as heroic...they just want to save their family and work...is dismissing their bad behavior because they are doing it with good intentions. One cannot do that and be considered right, in most cases. This isn't one of them where it's possible to do that.

I'm sorry, but that's a really offensive stereotype.

"Crossing the border and being caught is a misdemeanor. Being an illegal immigrant in this country is subject to deportation, but not prosecution. That's just a state of the law and that's what the law of the United States is."

"It is a misdemeanor to enter the country illegally, such as jumping the border. But simply being in the country without authorization, such as the 40 percent of illegal aliens who have overstayed their legal visas, is a civil matter punishable by deportation but not subject to criminal penalties."

so please, be politically correct and call them 'misdemeanants'...

lol

and not prosecutable misdemeanants...

:P

Then the truth is offensive.

"misdemeanants" nice. ha. =P

Your economy runs on illegal immigration. Blame yourself when you shop at Walmart. The word illegal in this sense has nothing to do with morality. You're calling someone a criminal because they are actually running for their lives. I think that everyone who is against poor people immigrating to the US out of a desire for betterment should read some american history. And I don't mean the bible.

the sundial. I dont think that they're agaisnt immigrants, but they're agaisnt the ones who come here illegally, and I totally agree with Lou Dobbs on that issue. People should come here the legal way, except if they're asylum, because it's a differnt situation. And anyway, illegals get treated like slaves, that's the main reason people are okay with it anyway.

If ive heard anybody with balls to publicly say what needs to be said, its Dobbs. Immigrants arent wanted by all citizens of nations, and those who want to help people of other lands, arent entitled to speak for us all. How did we become missionaries right here at home?? I had to leave Canada because its suicidal immigration laws that bring over a quarter million third-world people each year have destroyed it. They hand out citizenships to anyone, without looking at their past or considering if they would be a deficit to the country. If i had a business and was forced to hire unskilled people who i had to pay for they're language learning, i'd be bankrupt in no time.
"Diversity is our strength" is the biggest lie of our time, and we the citizens are paying for it, dearly.