Barack Obama wants Bill to heal Hillary Clinton wounds

Hillary Clinton made a simple statement of historic fact about a previous democratic presidential primary.

Her statement had nothing at all to do with Obama.

Grow up. Obama supporters may think that everything anyone says is actually about Obama. But they are wrong.

Hillary Clinton had nothing to apologize for, but did so with grace anyway.

Obama remains silent while Obama supporters treat Hillary Clinton so disrespectfully and hurl sexist slurs at her throughout this campaign.

Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton will probably work hard for Obama if the Dems make the mistake of making him the nominee, because despite the false accusations, the Clintons are dedicated public servants.

But the Clinton's support can't give Obama the experience needed to beat Senator McCain, nor can it turn him into a senator who didn't lie to the voters of Iowa about passing a nuclear bill to protect Americans from radiation leaks from his campaign contributors in the powerful nuclear power industry.

Big surprise that the Obama campaign can find time to comment on Hillary Clinton's innocuous statement and twist it into some demonic Freudian slip about Obama, but they never seem to have time to answer questions about Obama's lie about his nuclear senat bill.

kushan, Get off your band wagon! FACT is 1. Hillary Clinton Leads in the Popular vote. FACT 2. Obama is not nor will he ever be the Democratic nominee. 3. Now you all that have put down former President Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton knowing full well that they have more experience and that they can correct the problems this country is in. You all want his help to show Obama how to run the country because he does not have any idea what to do because he is stupid and only has 3 1/2 years experience.
Do you think for a second that you can run down a great leader and his wife that should have received everyones votes then to have a person with no experience say I need your help now that I've treated you like SH#T to show me how to run the country.
Do you think you can kick someone in the teeth and expect them to turn around and say thank you, are you FU#king sick.

Besides Robert Kennedy Jr. made this statement:

Statement from Robert Kennedy Jr.: Re: Bobby Kennedy Comments

Statement from Robert Kennedy Jr.

Robert Kennedy Jr. issued the following statement this evening:

“It is clear from the context that Hillary was invoking a familiar political circumstance in order to support her decision to stay in the race through June. I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband's 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense.”

He supports Hillary so get off your soap box. Hillary knows what she is talking about and you can only dream of it.

Remember Hillary has the popular vote and has the electoral vote count by 300 to 217 so Obama needs to give up. He will be looking for a new job soon maybe he can go to work for Wright!

Oops, I am a reporter (contributor), not bias to anybody.

My response to maltesetitan's attack:

1. “FACT is 1. Hillary Clinton Leads in the Popular vote.”

Response 1. The only scenario in which Clinton is ahead in popular vote: A. Doesn’t count certain caucus states. And B. Counts Florida and Michigan (which didn't have Obama’s name on the ballot)

2. “FACT 2. Obama is not nor will he ever be the Democratic nominee.”

Response 2. I do believe the Democratic Party and its voters disagree.

3. “Now you all that have put down former President Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton knowing full well that they have more experience and that they can correct the problems this country is in”

Response 3. Since when does “more experience” in Washington = guarantee good? Also, when does being First Lady count as experience?

I could go on, but I think I made my point. Next time you want to write something, take a deep breath and think about what you are going to say. Then maybe you won’t make an idiot out of yourself.

Touch Art, I find it hilarious that you think Obama's supporters are so mean to Hillary, when Obama has been called more names than Hillary and McCain combined. Let's be real. It's a fight for the highest position in the nation, and arguably, the world. No one denies that Hillary isn't a fighter, but she came into this thing thinking it was hers for the taking. She didn't bank on having to fight, and I am sorry, that she feels robbed of this opportunity simply because she's lived longer.

All this talk about sexism is ridiculous. The last I checked, most people that didn't vote for her didn't do it because she was a woman, unlike those who didn't vote for Barak because simply he's black. I don't see him bitchin' and moanin' about their blatant racism.

Good post Neghie, couldn't have said it better myself.

That's the main difference between Obama and Hillary supporters, Obama's supporters are willing to compromise and make concessions. Hillary is just an attack dog 24/7, and I honestly do not know what's happened to her since the beginning of this campaign.

I think that a lot of Hillary's supporters aren't democrats at all, rather conservatives who voted for Bush in 04 and have since fled the Republican party after his disastrous second term. Hence why they are so absurd and irrational, as displayed by their willingness to abandon democrats for McCain.

Neghie, I would say the same way you claim people didn't vote for him because he's black (which I'm sure there are people who didn't vote for him for that reason), there are also some people who voted for him just because he is black. I love how African Americans can always claim white people are racist but never admit they can be racist as well.

And there are people who didn't vote for Hillary because she's a woman. The fact that you're a black woman and have the nerve to say there isn't sexism is a serious oversight on your part, since it's a known fact that in the African American community some of the most obvious forms of sexism occur (I have just two words: Rap Music).

Maybe the reason that Hillary didn't bank on a fight is because their policies (hers and Obama's) are almost identical and she figured since she spent 8 yrs in the Whitehouse as first lady and is married to a former president and was a senator longer than Obama, people would assume she had the experience needed to be the nominee to go against the GOP nom. It's not like that was illogical thinking.

I happen to believe the most illogical thinking taking place in the dem nom is the fact that people who say they will vote for Obama can only retort against Hill's experience with cheap catch phrases like, "He offers hope", or "He's for change" without even being able to provide reasons they believe he'll be able to do that. Other than being taken by his speeches (and for some that he's black and they are tired of seeing white men in the white house) I don't understand how anyone can support him based on his platform (oh wait he's offering "hope" [obviously I'm being sarcastic]).

If anyone can give me real reasons he'll change things maybe I would give his campaign an additional second of my time, but based on the research I've done and the non-existant plans Obama has yet to reveal, I can't see any reason why people should be so rabid about getting him nominated.

I'm not even voting for Clinton (I'm voting for true change and going with Nader) and I can appreciate the fact that she has not only been in the Whitehouse, she has more knowledge on how the administration works and also has someone in her corner (Bill Clinton) that will always be someone foreign leaders can respect and have serious discussions with on foreign policy.

No one can argue with that, especially Obama supporters since the only response they ever have is "But he offers us hope". So my opinion, if you're gonna vote for a politician (McCain, Clinton, or Obama) might as well vote for the one who's experienced the Whitehouse and knows the inner workings because if any of these candidates will change things, it's the one who has the insider tips.

I don't have anything else to say on this thread because I can almost gaurantee no one (Obama supporters) will come back with an articulate, well thought out, well backed retort. And if anything they'll just post something about how Hillary is corrupt or how she said something "atrocious" or how she's racist or how she wants Obama assassinated (in other words just try to focus the attention on Hillary's bads), but won't post anything about Obama's policies because he has none and the ones he does have are almost identical to Clinton's (oh and let's not forget that his votes in the senate are also practically identical to Clinton's or he sat out).

"And there are people who didn't vote for Hillary because she's a woman. The fact that you're a black woman and have the nerve to say there isn't sexism is a serious oversight on your part, since it's a known fact that in the African American community some of the most obvious forms of sexism occur (I have just two words: Rap Music)."

Yes, don't respond, spare us your ignorance!
When neghie said, " All this talk about sexism is ridiculous." she was referring to the campaign, OBVIOUSLY! Of course there is sexism in this world, I am sure she is well aware of that too!

Why you had to bring her race and gender into it is an example of your own blatant racist and sexist view.

Because she is a black woman you can chastise her for opinion because of the existence of rap music???

Yes, we all know a lot of rap musicians objectify women but she was obviously talking about the campaign. There was no need to point out the fact that she is black and that she is a woman. She has no obligation to have a particular opinion on anything because she is black and she is a woman, and she certainly the f**k should not be chastised for her opinion just because she is black and she is a woman.

Allow me to retort (only since you tried to call me a racist/sexist [not very successfully I might add]).

Well because I'm intelligent and happen to know what happens in the voting booth and in the primaries is a microcosm of the larger social scene, I thought I'd point that out to you all. In case you don't know what that means, which I'm sure you don't because you weren't smart enough to get it the first time; Voter turnout, who the votes go to, and what determines those things are directly related to the atmosphere in which those events are taking place.

To say there is sexism in society (I meant in any society, not just Africa American,although I used the example I did in the hopes she would be able to relate to it [maybe a bit presumptuous, but not at all racist or bigoted]), but not in this election, is like saying there is sugar in the water source, but not in the water in my glass.

Try not to take my comments as personal attacks but as an education. It's evident you need one. And I wasn't "chastising" her for her comments, do you even know what the word means? In case you don't:

Main Entry: chas·tise
Pronunciation: (ˌ)chas-ˈtīz
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): chas·tised; chas·tis·ing
Etymology: Middle English chastisen, alteration of chasten
Date: 14th century
1: to inflict punishment on (as by whipping)
2: to censure severely : castigate
3archaic : chasten 2
synonyms see punish

I wasn't punishing her, I was explaining to her that if sexism occurrs in society, you better believe it occurrs during a presidential race.

Please reference a dictionary, history/sociology book(not the ones you get at a public school but from an accredited library), and/or an encyclopedia next time you choose to throw a slanderous comment someone's way.

Hillary Clinton would be a better President. Hillary Clinton has a much better chance of winning the presidency in the General Election against McCain.

The corporate controlled media doesn't want Hillary Clinton for President because they know she can and will bring real change for the majority of Americans.

If Democratic bigwigs choose Obama as the nominee, the Republicans and Senator McCain will win in November and Obama supporters will see the kind of change their candidate is capable of bringing to America. Another 4 years of Republican rule.

TouchArt, I hear the exact same argumet you make but with the names of Clinton and Obama switched around.

It comes down to, If you want Hillary to win you make the argument that you just made and if you want Obama to win you just switch the names.

Have we made both of these people into heros for our personal agendas? Do we see what really needs to happen or do we just need another Hero to beleive in?

No need to now wonder why people think politics is BS. And Mafioso, I agree with your point regarding sexism (which is not a ridiculous discussion if you understand and know your history) and agree about voters and why they do or don't vote. What it comes down to is, many people who vote will not know for sure who they "want" until they get in that booth. Then all bets are off. All the Bs before it that did nothing to further anything in the way of discussion about actual plans will mean nothing in the end. And ultimately, no one person will be able to do anything in the next four years to bring about anything resembling the vague term 'change' after the last eight. To think otherwise or to put any one person above it as if they are some sort of God is in my eyes delusional.

To make the argument that any of the candidates would be a better president, you need to objectively judge their relative experience and how their words match their actions.

Personally, I do not believe in hero worship and have never followed anyone.

My assessment of this primary process and my predictions for the general election if Obama is made the nominee in this dead heat are based on decades of studying history and passionately following the democratic primaries and general elections since 1960.

I've lived through and participated in enough democratic presidential primaries to see the pattern of the dems snatching defeat from victory.

Obama is not the candidate his worshippers think he is and they will be disappointed in the end.

The problem is millions of people will suffer because the Dems couldn't have the balls to put up the most experienced, toughest and already vetted candidate against McCain.

Obama supporters think their young handsome candidate will win over "old" McCain, but American voters can see the difference between someone with empty promises and no track record and someone who has been a public servant for decades.

The Presidency is not an internship. Obama has done little or nothing in the Senate besides gutting and failing to pass his only nuclear senate bill. Measured against McCain's proven ability to cross the aisle and work with both parties, the freshman senator doesn't have a chance with serious voters in the General Election.

Worshippers? Redundant and stereotypical at best. Repeating it over and over doesn't make it true or valid.

I may be black, but I am not African American, which is your first wrong assumption Mafioso, so my p.o.v. is very different from what you think it should be. Where my parents come from, there are black presidents so this is nothing new to me. Sexism exists, I'm not arguing that. But put it against the rate of racism in this race, and it's not comparable.

It's a matter of preference at this point so let's not play the game. We're all f*cking biased and to act otherwise is complete bullocks. Judgment over Experience.

Thanks faux, for clarifying that for me, and I would just like to go on and say that I have always been the type of girl that did what she wanted. I can build a bird house from scratch, change a tire, put tile on the floor, play basketball with the best of them and do whatever guys can do. No ones ever made me feel like I can't because I'm a woman so I'm sorry, I don't carry that baggage. Those songs that objectify women, well they're for the women that want to be objectified, they don't speak to me. I bet you're even thinking that I've turned my back on the Clintons because black people were all over the Clintons and now they've abandoned him, bla bla, bla. Bill is not the one running, Hillary is, and I prefer Barak. I've read both their policies and have heard both their plans, even though you haven't. If you really want to know the differences, you'll find it. I've made my choice. If skin color had anything to do with it, I'd be willing to vote for anyone that looked like me. Don't presume to know me because you don't.

I find it curius, its just so curiuos... Ha! that is good stuff lol..

Hill you've lost, It's over....so don't go blasting underneath the surface because of it. There's always another four years ahead of you to try running again. Now see we're using the word assasination in reguards of Obama 2 weeks before the anniversary of Bobby's death, now that is low...way to low, if I might add.

Note: if something should go down in these reguards toward Obama, we know whom to point the finger at....

What Hillary Clinton said about the historical precedents for presidential democratic nominees continuing their race into June had NOTHING to do with Obama.

Only an egomaniac would think everything his opponent says is somehow about him.

Obama supporters who twist Hillary Clinton's words into any comment or wish about Obama are just tripping.

The Obama camp shows how they have absolutely nothing substantive to criticize Hillary Clinton about when they join ranks with the corporate controlled media to spin Hillary Clinton's simple statement of historic fact into a "scandal".

What Hillary Clinton said about the historical precedents for presidential democratic nominees continuing their race into June had NOTHING to do with Obama.

Only an egomaniac would think everything his opponent says is somehow about him.

Obama supporters who twist Hillary Clinton's words into any comment or wish about Obama are just tripping.

The Obama camp shows how they have absolutely nothing substantive to criticize Hillary Clinton about when they join ranks with the corporate controlled media to spin Hillary Clinton's simple statement of historic fact into a "scandal".

Bill and Hillary Clinton will probably support Obama if the Dems make the mistake of nominating him.

Obama is arrogant. Since the beginning of his candidacy, he has acted as if he is entitled to the nomination because, as he told voters from the beginning, people don't like HIllary Clinton.

Over 17 million democratic primary voters who voted for Hillary Clinton disagree. As do the voters in the states the dems have to win in November like Pennsylvania, New York, California, Texas, and Ohio.

Obama has called people, who criticize his wife Michelle Obama, "low class" and warned them to leave his wife alone.

Barack Obama has incredible temerity to ask that Bill Clinton help him heal the wounds, when it was Senator Obama who let the Obama campaign encourage sexism behind the scenes and says nothing while Obama supporters hurl sexist slurs and vitriole at Hillary Clinton without a word from him.

touchArt,
"Obama worshipers" ?
"dissapointed in the end" ?
"Dems don't have the balls" ?
"Obama supproters different from American voters who see the difference"?
"Obama -empty promises and no track record"?
"Obama is like an intern"?
"Obama has done little but gut a bill and fail"?
"Obama doesn't have a chance agains SERIOUS voters"?

Your "decades of studying history and passionately following the democratic primaries and general elections since 1960." shows me that you prefer to make your decision or argument by use of general spin tactics to deflate the candidate and devalue the position of his supporters. This does not help to heal a divide or build a strong argument.

I stand by all of my statements, except the ones quoted above that I didn't say, like "Obama is like an intern".
What I actually wrote was that the presidency is not an internship, meaning it is not a job for someone who has not had anything but a couple of years in the Senate.

My assessments are those of an educated experienced voter and have nothing to do with general spin tactics.

Obama's lack of experience is a matter of public record, as is his failure to pass a senate bill to protect Americans against nuclear radiation links and then lying about it to Iowa voters whose choice made Obama's candidacy viable.

If Obama has substantive policies to back up his pretty words for change, he should start proving it and stop letting his campaign attack Hillary Clinton on spurious side issues.

Obama's candidacy has divided the Democrats. He didn't care when he decided he should win the nomination that 70% of Democratic Primary voters supported Hillary Clinton to beat the Republicans when the primary started. Obama ran his campaign using the slogan from the beginning that "people don't like Hillary Clinton." Forget about the fact that her policies are best for America. So good, in fact, that Obama's policies have mimicked Hillary Clinton's from the beginning. He even changed his one difference of not providing universal health care to make his health care plan the same as Hillary Clinton's once he saw it wasn't supported by democrats.

The Dems have proven they don't have any balls with every presidential nomination since JFK with the exception of the nomination of Bill Clinton.

TouchARt, I am sure you do stand behind your statements ( with that minor adjustment)

hence the divide we see in this country.