I NOW understand what Hillary was trying to say, but what a strange way to arrive at that point. She should be more mindful of her words and have more class, but wait...that would go against her campaign strategy.

Even though her comments were not referring to Obama, he was the first thing that came to my mind when she made that comment. Secondly, aren't the Kennedy's dealing with enough right now?

Obama could have used this opportunity to attack Hillary's character, but he didn't. I bet Hillary would not have been so gracious.
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    Here is definitive proof that being an intellectual does not protect you from stupidity.

    Personally I would prefer if the question of competing until the convention were a non-issue. There are a lot of things that need to be fixed in America and the current public debate in the Democratic party is not contributing to the solution.

    Accountability in Government
    open honest public debate on policy.
    rejuvenation of the separation of powers

    None of this has been on the cards for the last eight years. I agree it will probably be Obama, but the person is not important, the mission is. Lets stop this personality cult stuff and start talking about the mission. Throw some our torturing bastards in jail, give those poor slobs in Gitmo a fair trial and send them home.

    CaptSutter
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    Only an idiot would take offense to what she said, she was pointing out that the nomination process has historically gone into June, she used the example of her husband and RFK to illustrate this. I see absolutely nothing wrong with what she said. What is so stupid about it? This is just Obama supporters trying to make an issue out of nothing.

    Wemerge, if Obama is the first thing that came to your mind when she mentioned the assassination of a Kennedy then I can only imagine how paranoid you must be. What a saint Obama is for not using this to attack Hillary's character, how dare she know anything about history. If John Edwards was the leading candidate would this have been an issue? Yes, I am suggesting that the only reason this is being blown out of proportion is because Obama is black. Paranoid people think he will be assassinated to keep a black man from being president. This is ridiculous. I wish Hillary had not apologized.

    observer2121
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    observer2121, Yes... Obama was the first thing that came to mind because last week I read a story about the security measures that were taken to protect him. If John Edwards was the leading candidate, he wouldn't need Secret Service protection. I wonder why?

    The offense comes from making such a comment as Ted Kennedy's family is dealing with his Cancer news.

    She doesn't have to apologize to Barack Obama, but she should apologize to the American people. The timing was wrong and she could have made her point in many different ways.

    And again, if Obama made statement... she would not have been so gracious. It is not the Clinton way!

    wemerge
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    wemerge: I read that stuff on CNN about security measures, and what it said was that ALL three leading candidates now have Secret Service protection. Hillary has had it since being First Lady, and even McCain accepted it recently. So that really has nothing to do with Obama's skin colour or anything like that. Seems to be standard procedure at this point. It's unfortunate that they need it, though.

    jaakuu
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    Wemerge, as was pointed out, McCain and Hillary both have secret service protection. According to reports Edwards did request secret service protection before he was knocked out of the race. So you can wonder why Obama has it and you can also wonder why all the other current candidates have it as well.

    Ted Kennedy's family has gotten over the murder of RFK by now I am sure, the simple mention of RFK over 30 years after the event is not likely to stir old wounds.

    Also there are not many others ways she could have made her point because usually the nomination is wrapped up by June, she used examples that are most famous to illustrate her point.

    Lastly if Obama made the statement neither you nor I nor anyone else on this forum knows how Hillary would have reacted so your opinion that she would not have been gracious is mere speculation. To be fair Obama's camp is the one that made a stink about this so I don't know why you are implying that Obama was gracious.

    observer2121
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    Correct Observer, the Obama camp is the one that made a stink out of this comment taken out of context, specifically to stir up folks like wemerge and their OMG Clinton gag reflex. Today, however, they have backed off as people actually look at what was said and decide what was said for themselves. Now they (Obama) wish to get past it, lest any more folks actually find out what was actually said and recognize how the Obama camp mischaracterized it....on purpose.

    anjela3
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    Sweet music to my ears angela3, finally someone with some sense.

    observer2121
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    Except that both of you are wrong. The Obama camp did not "make a stink about this". A spokesperson said it was an unfortunate statement and he was right. But Obama himself later said, "I don't think that Senator Clinton intended anything by it," and that "we should put it behind us." And Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod told ABC's "This Week" that "we take her at her word," and he added, "We're beyond that issue now, so certainly we're not trying to stir the issue up."

    Many people were offended by a stupid comment and how do the blind Clintonistas and Obama haters respond...they blame Obama. Typical and sad.

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    krag2112
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    Vote Ron Paul! "Oh he'll never win", so you would compromise your beliefs for the satisfaction of acceptance? Fuck Obama, Hillary, and McCain, their all globalist scoundrels! I don't want to expand warfare or welfare!

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    Acrtually Krag2112 if you read angela3's statement she clearly recognizes that the Obama camp has made a turnaround from their initial stance why don't you quote the whole statement from the Obama camp which was

    "Senator Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign,"

    Obama's campaign spokesman Bill Burton said this on Friday. Only later did Obama temper those comments in Puerto Rico. At that point the damage had been done and here we are with post after post of Clinton's so called mistep.

    Obama's camp is quite clever, they get the ball rolling and then stepout of the way to let the bloggers do their dirty work while they can remain clean.

    observer2121
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    Temper those comments? It was an unfortunate statement that had no place in this campaign. Those are the "scathing" remarks that "caused" people everywhere to be offended? NOT the statement itself from Senator Clinton? Come on. This kind of transparent spin is ridiculous. Many people commented on this site and others before Bill Burton's reaction was even widely reported and to suggest that his relatively tepid response was some sort of cue for the media and bloggers to jump on this story is a conspiracy theory that borders on paranoia. People were offended. If you weren't...fine. But that doesn't dismiss those who were.

    krag2112
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    Well then those who were offended misunderstood, it happens. They should read the transcript or watch the video. If they are still offended then they either hate Hillary and no amount of factual evidence will change their minds or they are just stubborn.

    observer2121
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    Hillary's right. There's been an incredible conspiracy in the media against her. What on earth is wrong with letting democracy take its course, and having every vote counted (including Florida and Michigan). Oh, I forgot, America doesn't do democracy like that anymore. They let "news" services call the results long before the votes have even been cast, never mind counted. So much more efficient!

    AndreaKnoll
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    Or they were legitimately offended and have the right to their opinion. Just because you see it one way doesn't mean it's the only way. Calling their motives into question doesn't change that fact.

    And most nominations are decided before all the states have voted. This is the exception not the rule. And acknowledging the mathematical improbability is not calling the results. Nor is it forcing anyone out of the race. It's just the facts.

    krag2112
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    she believes what she is saying. That's the part I don't like much. Everytime I've seen this woman speak , she has been catty, and offensive. I like that word "Class" if we are to rise above what we have created currently, we need VISION.
    Blessings on the planet to having the best person in office in America, to help bring the world to light.
    Peace

    heidilittle

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