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Healthcare NOT Warfare, Sign the Petition

As Martin Luther King Jr. observed forty years ago, "A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death." While the insurance and pharmaceutical industries post huge profits, the U.S. health care crisis grows steadily worse.

Today, nearly one in six Americans has no health insurance. Tens of millions of others are woefully under-insured. Meanwhile the war in Iraq drains our resources and overburdens our budget. Our government's duty is to protect us--security begins with our health and well-being at home. In 2008, we have an historic opportunity to turn from warfare to health care for all.

We call on the Democratic Party at all levels--in party platforms and resolutions--to commit to redirecting wasteful and unnecessary military spending to meet human needs. This commitment must start with comprehensive, guaranteed health care--driven by the needs of patients and the judgment of doctors. We call on Democrats to support a plan that eliminates any financial barriers between the patient and healthcare providers, resulting in a patient not receiving medically necessary care.

We call on members of Congress to bring the troops home from Iraq and to pass H.R. 676, Rep. John Conyers' bill which guarantees comprehensive publicly-funded, privately-delivered health care for everyone in the U.S.

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Marilynn_Murray

42 responses // Healthcare not warfare

  • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/unmask...
    The call is being spread far and wide as a major difference in the 2008 choice.
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    1Eco_Media
  • Yes . YEs. !
    twodee
  • Thanks Marilynn!
    Chique
  • As Homer Simpson says, "Done and done."
    huntre
  • yes mr hightower!

    :-)
    lfm
    • lfm
    • 4 months ago
  • Yes
    jubal
  • Done and done, now if you will excuse me I have a bong hit and some shredding on guitar hero to finish.
    rabidlemur
  • COVERAGE

    Everyone would be included in a single public plan covering all medically necessary services, including acute, rehabilitative, long-term, and home care; mental health services; dental services; occupational health care; prescription drugs and medical supplies; and preventive and public health measures. Boards of experts and community representatives would determine which services were unnecessary or ineffective, and these would be excluded from coverage. As in Canada, alternative insurance coverage for services included under the national health program would be eliminated, as would patient copayments and deductibles.
    Marilynn_Murray
  • Universal, Comprehensive Coverage
    Only such coverage ensures access, avoids a two-class system, and minimizes expense
    No out-of-pocket payments
    Co-payments and deductibles are barriers to access, administratively unwieldy, and unnecessary for cost containment
    A single insurance plan in each region, administered by a public or quasi-public agency
    A fragmentary payment system that entrusts private firms with administration ensures the waste of billions of dollars on useless paper pushing and profits. Private insurance duplicating public coverage fosters two-class care and drives up costs; such duplication should be prohibited
    Global operating budgets for hospitals, nursing homes, allowed group and staff model HMOs and other providers with separate allocation of capital funds
    Billing on a per-patient basis creates unnecessary administrative complexity and expense. A budget separate from operating expenses will be allowed for capital improvements
    Free Choice of Providers
    Patients should be free to seek care from any licensed health care provider, without financial incentives or penalties
    Public Accountability, Not Corporate Dictates
    The public has an absolute right to democratically set overall health policies and priorities, but medical decisions must be made by patients and providers rather than dictated from afar. Market mechanisms principally empower employers and insurance bureaucrats pursuing narrow financial interests
    Ban on For-Profit Health Care Providers
    Profit seeking inevitably distorts care and diverts resources from patients to investors
    Protection of the rights of health care and insurance workers
    A single-payer national health program would eliminate the jobs of hundreds of thousands of people who currently perform billing, advertising, eligibility determination, and other superfluous tasks. These workers must be guaranteed retraining and placement in meaningful jobs.
    Marilynn_Murray
  • Great Post..... Thanks Marilynn
    jasminerafique
  • Signed.
    dndobson
  • Thanks Marilyn.

    Yes yes a thousand times yes.
    spoon
  • http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
    wow.

    i'm shocked to see so many 'well-informed' [or so i thought] people all gung-ho for govt sponsored doping.

    come on - you don't even have to read the fine print to understand how fukcd this bill is....
    it says right at the top of the page: "to provide health insurance* coverage" the bill does nothing to improve an already damned system....and does not provide any type of "Healthcare"...just "insurance".

    no matter who is in charge, if you hand the healthcare industry over to the government without drastically reforming the system first, we will be in a world of sh1t beyond that of your worst nightmares.

    http://current.com/items/88904797_the_health_insurance_...

    ....if you think the american health situation is bad right now..it can get a huck of a lot worse.

    to burden the next generation with social healthcare would be more devastating than any war debt, housing, or education crisis left by the current admin.

    in the first years of federalized health insurance, you will see overall healthcare costs skyrocket.

    there will be a huge surge in the number and variety of prescription drugs available along with rapid expansion of their target demographics....as america gets hooked on more drugs, co-pay premiums will steadily creep higher

    fraudulent claims will persist.... assuming they hold steady at the current ratios ....the system will quickly run out of money and current welfare programs will have to be downsized.

    infant mortality and autism rates will surge as more and more mothers give birth to toxic drug laced zombie babies.

    'cancer diagnoses' and "treatments" will become accepted as a normal, natural phase of the average american lifecycle.

    ...then locusts, plagues, dogs and cats living together...at this point we'll be very lucky if skynet and robot militias topple the existing regime and send us back to the dark ages.

    quoting this B.S. video^
    "22000 americans die from 'lack of health insurance'"

    -this is a lie, a purely theoretical statistic generated and frequently touted by insurers.

    Fact: the third leading cause of death in america IS the healthcare system. hello, mcfly.

    Healthcare NOT Warfare is a cheap, shameful tactic which confuses two completely unrelated problems.

    Its just like saying "every time you buy organic, God kills a kitten"

    The supporters in this video who claim the bill is "designed to bring healthcare to the people and keep the insurance companies out of it"...are either confused about the details....or they are intentionally misleading [most likely the later]

    it is because of efforts like this that 'democrat progressives' are big fat losers and will prolly give it up to McCain in the fall.

    John Conyers has been on the take from PhRMA for over a decade...its well documented.

    None of the prez candidates support this bill and GDubya sure as hell isn't going for it.

    so what's the point? oh yeah...another worthless cause for dirty hippies to rally behind and feel like they're making a difference.

    the next healthcare legislation passed needs to be a patient's bill of rights.

    the 'healthcare' industry has fabricated this political narrative for the two parties to 'fight' over....
    LOL..the jokes on you...either way doctors and Big Pharma still win....and [you] lose.
    smorrisey
  • Smores, 676 is expanded improved Medicare. It is what our legislators have now. I don't think they set themselves up in a loser program. Tell you what when we get it don't whatever you do use it. The rest of us will. I have never seen any retiree turned away from care they get into see the doctor and get treated. Try that without insurance or money sometime. The joke is on you.
    Marilynn_Murray
  • Smores, Where did you come up with the crap you are spewing in your post? Infant mortality and autism rates will go up? What makes this one allegation alone true?
    Marilynn_Murray
  • Smores just said: It says right at the top of the page: "to provide health insurance* coverage" the bill does nothing to improve an already damned system....and does not provide any type of "Health care"...just "insurance". no matter who is in charge, if you hand the health care industry over to the government....

    Make up your mind. You just said the bill says NOTHING about health care, ONLY insurance, then you imply that the bill hands over the health CARE industry to the government (which, as you just stated and in fact, it does NOT do).

    I call that using non sequiter ill logic.

    Then he goes on to say, after national health insurance is implemented, "locusts, plagues, dogs and cats living together...at this point we'll be very lucky if skynet and robot militias topple the existing regime and send us back to the dark ages".

    You just gotta love it. Thanks for giving me my smile for the day.
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    spoon
  • http://current.com/items/88953091_prescription_drug_epe...
    shall i avoid using non sequiter hyperbole in response to videos that make outrageous claims??

    i understand "676 is expanded improved Medicare"

    if you put a cashmere tophat on a pig, its still a pig...

    my position is that the current medicare system is bad and shouldn't be available to anyone, much less everyone.

    I deeply respect, consider, and appreciate all your opinions... and do not expect to have anyone agree with me.

    it is common knowledge that once a state begins to sponsor health insurance, the number of patients regularly taking prescription drugs immediately increases exponentially.

    for me, this^ fact alone is reason enough to denounce any state sponsored medical plans.

    i've cited dozens of sources on your previous healthcare threads dealing with the autism/cancer/pharmaceutical/vaccine links...can't locate at the moment.

    you'll have to go back to find em...in the mean time:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/022883.html
    http://www.naturalnews.com/022955.html

    no need for "crap spewing" comments. That makes me not want to respond.

    If you specifically dispute any claim, I am happy to discuss further...
    smorrisey
  • "it is common knowledge that once a state begins to sponsor health insurance, the number of patients regularly taking prescription drugs immediately increases exponentially"....

    We are the only civilized country in hte world that does NOT have national health insurance, yet we take more prescription drugs per capita than any other nation by a long shot.

    To use your own quote, "Americans buy much more medicine per person than any other country".

    What you're calling common knowledge does not make common sense.
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    spoon
  • Infant mortality and autism rates will go up? Care to explain why this would be true? Make me understand why we wouldn't want the same health care plan as the President, Senators, and Congress people have?
    Marilynn_Murray
  • Thanks Marilynn. Signed. Good post.
    JoQ
    • JoQ
    • 4 months ago
  • I hate to say it but, I don't like either healthcare plans offered by Clinton or Obama. Neither are half as good as HR 676 and if really feel that if this plan is good enough for our legislators we would be happy with it. I hope we can study it and come to an agreement before we get some other plan foisted off on us. We should educate ourselves and have a voice in our own plan.
    Marilynn_Murray
  • It's a good cause.
    current89
  • http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-52668849124952...
    No shit smorrisey, what about the Codex Alimentarius due to be put into law on December 31, 2009?

    Has anyone heard about this horrible assault on our health freedom? If you haven't look it up. Just Google it and read. If you can watch the video on Youtube, even better.

    When this goes in to effect, every single cow, chicken, pig, goat, sheep, and other animals for human consumption will be required by law to be injected with growth hormones and antibiotics; without exception. Not even organic farmers will be allowed to get away with not injecting their cows.

    It will require that countries allow genetically modified foods into the food supply without labeling "since the WHO and FAO science panel has already deemed genetically modified foods to be utterly safe." We all know that that is a bunch of crap.

    There have been numerous agricultural geneticists who have come out stating that second and third generation genetically enhanced foods are unstable and the genetic sequence can get scrambled through the seeds and replanting; just in one growing season.

    Check out www.healthfreedomusa.org
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    jubal
  • Oh yeah and one more thing about the Codex, all vitamins and minerals will be reclassified as toxins.


    The real agenda of the Codex is to kill of billions of people through starvation, malnutrition and preventable diseases. Its population control at its finest.
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    jubal
  • I don't understand why anyone would object to a good Universal Healthcare Program. If you don't want to go to the doctor or take medicine that is fine with me, but we have to take the profit and greed out of healthcare. Don't make bogus claims about what will happen if people get healthcare. If the current Medicare system is bad why do the legislators have almost the same plan? With expansion and improvement it will be the same plan the President of the United States has. We can't ask for more than that. This is a country where a kid died with an abcessed tooth for God's sake. That is a crime.
    Marilynn_Murray
  • Signed, thank you Marilynn.
    steadward
  • In order to end the war, elect McCain because he said Osama will be dead or captured within the first year of his election if elected.
    (My thoughts)
    SeetherFan
  • SeetherFan, McCain can't find his own butt with both hands, what would we want with him? He knows nothing but what Bush or Lieberman tells him. None of the three are fit to wipe Obama's shoes on. We will elect and protect Obama because he wants to do the things he has promised. Unlike them he really cares.
    Marilynn_Murray
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  • Thanks for this Marilynn! And you're right about McSame ... GObama!

    (p.s. thanks for recommending the other stuff, too)

    Cheers ~ Amber
    Amber_LaStrega
  • Good to see you Amber, Sometimes a lucid person is such a welcome sight.
    Marilynn_Murray
  • That is total B.S.
    SeetherFan
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  • SeetherFan retorted thusly:

    "I know that if i say obama wouldnt be a good president, people would call me a racist, that is just the way the pigs of this country are. IM NOT RACIST i just dont think hed be as good as McCain, so dont yell at me for my opinion and i wont yell at you for yours, stupid, greeddy america!"

    I'm not yelling at you, and you're more than welcome to your own opinion. We simply disagree. I'm afraid McCain would lead us down the same path as the current (corrupt and criminal) administration.

    I believe our country is ready for change. Obama represents that change.

    Marilynn, thanks yeah lucidity is da' bomb eh?!
    :D
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    Amber_LaStrega
  • I think NOT wanting insurance companies in the mix is an objective we should embrace. If there weren't giant profits in both Hospitals and Insurance, we wouldn't see them opening up new ventures and buying each other out.

    I like single payer options far more than government-funded initiatives that pay insurance companies.

    Here is where regulation is sorely needed.
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    Inofuilwell
  • although i agree with the bill.. i do not see why presidents come into play.

    it is the congress who determines if this bill will pass or not.. and if we can even get that... then the presidents ideals become important.

    but for now i will stick to letters, e-mails, and phone calls to my representative.

    i love this bill and i love the people who love this bill..

    we should go have lunch sometime.
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    Darevalo
  • Darevalo, you owe me lunch ... hell I'll even pick up the tab ('cause that's how my socialist self rolls).

    And, for the record, I love ya back.

    *mwah*

    So mote it be.
    Amber_LaStrega
  • This is Important
    Enjoy_Cannabis
  • Signed-
    onechance