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A "conspiracy theory" a few months ago.. now its a fact


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It's funny how this was a "conspiracy theory" a few months ago now is a hard fact.
sinlung

42 responses // A "conspiracy theory" a few months ago.. now its a fact

  • How much DEMOCRACY will that agreement actually have in it? Will it be prosperity for all, or just for people who are rich enough to own global companies?


    The people of the United States had better wake up. We better ask ourselves:


    Why are Americans having to work so hard, for less?

    Why is it more expensive for them to send their children to college and then those kids graduate with huge debts?

    Why isn't your pension plan secure?

    Why are you having to pay so much more for healthcare?

    Why [aren't] your retirement benefits there forever?

    Because these kinds of interests don't want you to have it, because they are so filthy rich off the investments they're making globally.

    They don't care about you
    They don't care about this country
    They don't care where you come from
    and my friends
    They don't care about democracy
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    celestialceiling
  • RUNS RIGHT THROUGH TEXAS
  • Shouldn't there be some kind of vote on this issue?

    This seems like an awfully big plan to just go through without the people having a say in it.

    She described this plan very clearly, it's just another way of creating cheaper labor, letting the people in Mexico do it for half the price of somebody in LA, or Oakland, because they don't have a choice.

    I really hope this election will bring change....
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    danieldewinter
  • truck drivers have known of this for years. but when we would speak on it everyone would look at us like we're crazy.
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    ItsGoTime
  • This is real, this is happening. Welcome to the USA being a third world economy. We better step in and stop this and stop foreign interests from owning or leasing our infrastructure or we won't have a road to ride our donkeys on.
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    Marilynn_Murray
  • Another reason to vote for Obama.
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    krag2112
  • Cosmo, Please explain what you mean by your comment?
  • Oh my......
    current89
  • One more example of the egoist elitists, the dangerous demagogues manipulating their latest demographic... another money scheme to undermine the economic infrastructure of the 'good ole USofA...the rich keep getting richer and...well you know the story...

    Meanwhile, the middle class falls by the wayside...

    Apathy will only serve to seal the fate of those who are, otherwise, without hope...
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    PlatoTacius
  • You reap what you sow... America is about to sell itself to China and India... Might I suggest the book "The World is Flat” by Thomas L. Friedman.

    The USA, (and her allies) the World Bank, and IMF have had this kind of world economy lined up for years. Someone commented that truckers have known about this for years, but no one would listen. That's because they (truckers) couldn't afford to really speak in a way that will be heard...by civil disobedience. You can’t afford to protest, when stopping your action means you lose your home, and your baby will not get milk next week.

    The United States and Canada are on the edge of a very dangerous precipice, that there will be no coming back from once we make the step.

    Here’s a take from North of your border.

    In Ontario, North American auto manufacturers are cutting shifts and preparing to close plants; that has the potential to shut down the Ontario economy, and with that goes a large chunk of the Canadian economy… but wait there’s more.

    Canada is currently selling millions of barrels of oil to America… Alberta, one of the (I think THE) richest oil sites in the west will sell it’s oil to Mexico (you go where the $ is) watch what will happen to the US economy when the oil from Canada gets shipped a little more south to run the factories in Mexico, and the price of gas doubles again.

    Then as, the price of oil and gas goes up and more businesses move to Mexico where the labor is cheaper, the companies that supply the (auto and other) parts all close because China … (and to a lesser extent India… India can potentially take over all IT in the next decade) China has managed to perfect all the techniques we’ve developed here and will do it at ½ to 1/3 the price.

    Now, just to make it worse, imagine you are told, YOUR Company can’t use the highway because of the agreement made with a business that is 49% foreign owned, but totally foreign run. Then, and only then will it hit home, that we have lost control of the very land we call sovereign.

    This all started (from my perspective) with Brian Mulroney and Ronald Reagan, it’s been coming for at least 25 years, and our relative prosperity in the midst of all of this allowed us to keep a blind eye, because “tear down that wall” “read my lips”; “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” “the evil doers” “Anna Nicole” “OJ Simpson” “ Nicole Simpson” “The Simple Life” “American Idol” “steroids in baseball” “gay marriage is destroying America” “God Damn America” and thousands of other sound bites and headlines have been used to distract the general population from what is really important… Our sovereignty is for sale. We are on the block, to the highest bidder.

    This isn’t about race, religion, sexual orientation, or what flag you wear on your lapel. If you can’t pay to get into the meeting you are not important enough to take part in the discussion.

    Civil disobedience will be the ONLY action left for us to take to make any difference… here’s the kicker… I don’t think we have to balls to step away from our laptops and blogs to actually make an impact. And by “we” I don’t mean the radicals, who are already doing it, I mean the we who will have to choose our children’s future over green fees this weekend, who will have to choose political stability over a new jet ski. I’m afraid those of us who have something to lose, will cling to it so it so tight it will be taken from us.
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    kDrew_Productions
  • Sorry, I have no sound right now...looks intresting though...I'll have tocome back to this when I get my speakers back!
    steadward
  • Read KDrew's post twice and let it soak in. It's true.
  • This is the beginning of the North American Union and eventually to a new currency and the ultimate destruction of our Constitution and our most precious freedoms.
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    jubal
  • I haven't thought it through yet, but I believe you are probably right Jubal. There is so much going on everywhere it's hard to know exactly what is happening and why. I know there is a reason for the private military and the prison camps. It has to do with this and a complete takeover I'm afraid.
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    Marilynn_Murray
  • Looks like it's now or never...we need to get a handle on this and stop being ruled by those who, instead of caring about the people of this nation, only care about the money it will bring them... selling our country to the highest bidder, instead of figuring out the problems this nation has and attempting to resolve them.

    We need more communication with the individuals who were elected to represent us, those who linger in the shadows and the safety of their capitol hill bubbles, not listening to the low class noise that's shattering our fragile infrastructure...
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    PlatoTacius
  • I also agree with jubal. The N.A.U. is on its way. The timeline is pretty hard to get a handle on, but the original Free Trade agreement put in place the building blocks of what is to be:

    a common currency (Canadian and US $ virtually on par now)

    a common constitution (based on commerce)

    It will be hard to actually make changes to borders, and let's be real, the countries will not change. The United States will keep her constitution, as will Canada and its Bill or Rights and freedoms. However those things will take a back seat to the new economic order.

    Selling when you give foreign ownership to large percentages of your country, you eventually lose control of your country.

    The World Bank and IMF know that better than anyone, it's going to be interesting to see what happens when the roles are reversed for North America.
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    kDrew_Productions
  • One of the first things we have to do is get public financing of our elections. We need a political public television station that we can use to introduce our national, state and local candidates to rein in costs. We could show government working the rest of the time and keep an eye on what is happening. If we don't do this we will continue to get rich morons for legislators. That is one of our biggest problems. They have never worked a day in their lives why do they represent us? If we don't hurry and take it back we lose it forever.
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    Marilynn_Murray
  • Everyone needs to hear about this...
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    MoMoney
  • Yes, they do. E-mail the link to your friends. Invite your current connections. Spread the word. People have no idea, and it's not even a blip on the radar screen of the corporate media. Why should they say anything? Thanks Reagan and Clinton it was thoughtful of you to allow the media to consolidate and ruin our chance of real news.
  • Consider that Reagan and Clinton opened the flood gates to corporate controlled media, because that's who would insure that they would continue in power...there is the root of the problem, the corporate media has too much say in the politics of society...the majority of people who are affected by policy, have very little say...and easily grow weary fighting it...

    No rest for the weary...it's time for change...the pendulum must swing the other way...
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    PlatoTacius
  • Let's hope by some quirk of fate we don't get Clinton Act Two. I think it will finish us off completely. She will get a paver and do the damned road herself. They came into office with nothing and are now multimillionaires. Not so Jimmy Carter. Speaks volumes to me.
  • I have great respect for Marcy Kaptur, one of my states representatives. I remember working with one of her staffers who I would love to sleep with. I also have spent a lot of time facing tear gas and clubs fighting corporate globalization on the streets.

    But I don't think this NAFTA Superhighway is a major threat. I have no doubt there are people on Wall Street and in D.C. who would like to push the idea. But one of the underpinnings of NAFTA, the WTO, IMF, etc., the whole system of institutions and agreements that push globalization, is that it is quiet. It is done in back rooms and behind closed doors at international summits. It isn't openly debated in the media (media conglomerates are part of the same corporate family that want the "free trade" pacts) and rarely in Congress. I was pleasantly surprised when Nancy Pelosi blocked the recent Columbia Free Trade deal. The NAFTA Superhighway would be too big and concrete and blatant to go unnoticed, even by the MSM. When these shady dealings see the light of day, they rarely survive.
    Brendan_M
  • The problem with this superhighway
    is that it represents a world dependent on OIL
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    celestialceiling
  • It is already being built it Texas. Why should they be able to take land through eminent domain from American citizens and turn it over to foreign interests for starters? Is this why they are allowing Mexican truckers in? Ask the Teamsters Union. This is not out in the open because it is so blatantly against the working class of America. We better get this stopped and get some new legislators in before it's too late. See who is running against the incumbent and support them if you can. We need people that will restore America and look out for us. We need rid of the status quo.
  • this is Capitalism at its "best". Whatever the Market will bear. It's not about people.
    That's why rich people, particularly Republicans, love this stuff.
    maryscott
  • Every great power all thru history has fell into oblivion due to greed and Mad Men. Eventually average americans will be standing up for what is just and right! Then we will be Terrorists!
    Jtonio4823
  • To reiderate Rev. Wright, "god damn America."
    I guess he was right!
    realitybytes
  • what a bunch of bs, i was considering moving to canada, but now i dont know what to do.
    riverdeer
  • I am going to encourage my children to learn Mandarin, for all others there will be subtitles hopefully.

    Nothing is forever, Every dog has it's day !
    Purdey
  • Don't blame only the GOP on this one... this isn't about left and right, this is about dollars and cents.

    And I think you're wise to learn Mandarin... China and India have more "A" students then we in North America have students. The numbers are against us... and they have a better work ethic.
  • Just to piggyback on a comment I posted earlier. As the BIG THREE move south of the (US) border, what's happening in the northern part of the N.A.U.

    Give it a read.. "Higher gasoline prices represent "a structural change, not just a cyclical change," Wagoner said.

    "It is, by and large, permanent." "
  • Good piece dude.Keep blowing this horn. The Amero is the new money that they want to push on us.
    keithponder
  • Ahem... *Clears European throat*... Let's not forget this land was stolen from the indians... *Stands well back*
    dearmat23
  • what is needed is acts of civil organization, that people say the problem is that we're on our blogs and comments. in england in a face book group a few thousand people decided to drink on the subway in london, and apparently a mini bar a boom box and food was smuggled in ? my point is people wanted to drink so they drank, we need to work out how to propel ourselves into organized discord again hah.
    Kabimbi
  • Disgusting. Corporate scum.
    Obama, please help.
    onechance
  • Over 650 jobs have been outsourced at the Star Tribune (my employer). NAFTA is a nightmare for American workers, 'Super' NAFTA is sure to be worse.

    Oh the horrors. Horror of horrors.

    Gods save our jobs.
    Amber_LaStrega
  • its all a conspiracy. this here linked video completly disproves everything said in this one.
    justaslost