Dubbed "worst vaccine bill ever" seeks mandatory shots for all children
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A pending New York State Assembly Bill dubbed, the "worst vaccine bill ever" by one activist group, would see all vaccines recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) made mandatory for all children, including infants and toddlers.
Assembly Bill 10942, introduced at the request of Richard Daines, the Commissioner of the New York State Department of Health, calls for changes to the law in order to make recommended inoculation compulsory in order for children to attend school.
The bill would also permit the administration of vaccines for sexually transmitted infections to minors without parental consent.
Separate sections of the bill would come into effect next year with others becoming law in 2010.
A-CHAMP, a national, non-partisan political action organization formed by parents in support of children with neurodevelopmental and communication disorders, has called for rejection of the bill and is demanding the passage of A5468/S3031, a bill that would give individuals a right to a philosophical exemption from vaccine mandates.
The group's press release highlights the key points in the bill:
* Our elected New York representatives would no longer determine the mandatory schedule of vaccines to attend school; decisions made by the federal Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices would automatically become mandatory.
* All children, infants and toddlers included, in New York would be required to get all vaccines recommended by the ACIP according to the ACIP schedule
* All children in New York up to age 18 would be required to get annual flu shots.
* All girls in New York would be required to get a human papilloma virus shot.
* All junior high school children and college students would be required to get meningococcal shots.
* Doctors would be required to issue certificates for every shot given and parents would be required to maintain the records and provide them to school and other authorities.
* The rules committee claims that the new laws would have no fiscal impact on the state despite the necessity of the state to spend tens of millions on purchasing new vaccines, a vast increase in mandatory record keeping and enforcement for schools, and a huge increase that could be expected in the number of cases of neurological damage, Guillian Barré syndrome and other vaccine-caused injuries.
Assembly Bill 10942, introduced at the request of Richard Daines, the Commissioner of the New York State Department of Health, calls for changes to the law in order to make recommended inoculation compulsory in order for children to attend school.
The bill would also permit the administration of vaccines for sexually transmitted infections to minors without parental consent.
Separate sections of the bill would come into effect next year with others becoming law in 2010.
A-CHAMP, a national, non-partisan political action organization formed by parents in support of children with neurodevelopmental and communication disorders, has called for rejection of the bill and is demanding the passage of A5468/S3031, a bill that would give individuals a right to a philosophical exemption from vaccine mandates.
The group's press release highlights the key points in the bill:
* Our elected New York representatives would no longer determine the mandatory schedule of vaccines to attend school; decisions made by the federal Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices would automatically become mandatory.
* All children, infants and toddlers included, in New York would be required to get all vaccines recommended by the ACIP according to the ACIP schedule
* All children in New York up to age 18 would be required to get annual flu shots.
* All girls in New York would be required to get a human papilloma virus shot.
* All junior high school children and college students would be required to get meningococcal shots.
* Doctors would be required to issue certificates for every shot given and parents would be required to maintain the records and provide them to school and other authorities.
* The rules committee claims that the new laws would have no fiscal impact on the state despite the necessity of the state to spend tens of millions on purchasing new vaccines, a vast increase in mandatory record keeping and enforcement for schools, and a huge increase that could be expected in the number of cases of neurological damage, Guillian Barré syndrome and other vaccine-caused injuries.
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Yeah, but think of the profits for Big Pharma. Revolt Now before it's too late. Take your country back from the Banks and Corporations.
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- gormlesstwat
- 3 months ago
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So you are willing to sacrifice the health of the many?
I know is a hard call, but is imperative to control diseases. I don’t want to watch my kid die from a pathogen that has inoculation. Unfortunately the uncertainty principle can be applied to a vaccine, is a risk, a probability that once self a parent should take.
Unless you are living in a secluded region of the US or the world with no contact to any modern diseases vector… I will say don’t inoculate, other wise you are taking a big risk even on going to a McD’s bathroom with out protection.
In a near future, a rational and logical reason will be discovered for the supposedly vaccine-cause injuries; who know if the vaccine manufacturing has been compromised due to the mass production and quality and effectiveness is flawed or simply vaccine treatment might trigger genetic flaws on some individuals. Our government is not spending enough on finding the right answer.
Unfortunately our current government spends too much playing a war instead of Health care Science.-
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- hyperbrand
- 3 months ago
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Fuck That. I'm not rusting the gov to shoot up my kids with BS. Ive never had even a flu shot, and have never had the flu. I'm not sold.
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Governments are monkeying around with all kinds of bacteria, like the anthrax that killed Americans in 2001 after 9/11. It's called problem reaction solution.
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Sounds like another pharm scam scheme to line the pockets of the purveyors with all the players getting their piece of the action. There needs to be data from controlled research to back up any demand for such mandatory compliance...not just...'because we say so'. This sort of legislation is another one of the major problems in this country right now...that universal health care would do more to resolve...
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- PlatoTacius
- 3 months ago
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Hyperbrand my point is they will make it compulsory, why do that? It removes the freedom of choice. Your children don't need it mostly and the only ones guaranteed to benefit are the stockholders of Big Pharma companies. You are being left with less and less choices every year. Year on year your country is becoming a nanny state in which you have freedom of speach nut god help you if you use it!
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- gormlesstwat
- 3 months ago
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In theory vaccines are great..in practice by the Bush administration led govt..I think not.
If I had to give it to my family I would research the hell of it. I would look at what countries such as France or Denmark with highly rated sytems are doing for their children..and what companies they are buying them from.-
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- CarolynGillis
- 3 months ago
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I'm pretty sure this has more to do with pharmaceutical profits then the health and welfare of children, sadly enough. Lobbyist and big corporations know for sure there's change in the wind coming there way fast and they're going to try and grab every buck and pass every favorable bill they can while they still have the advantage.
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if this is the case I WILL begin homeschooling my child!!!
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- northstar13
- 3 months ago
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Flu shot each year at 18? WTF! Flu shots are the biggest scam ever! They simply don't work. If you know anything about how many different flu viruses there are you know that there is no way to predict which one is going to strike next and that the shots just give you immunity to LAST years flu.
There is always religious exemption for vaccines. The shots are required in Oregon to attend public schools and colleges. Just tell them its against your religion. I did. All you have to do is fill out a simple form. They can't even ask you any questions. -
I think it's a good idea. No child should suffer needlessly from polio, typhus, mumps, HPV, etc... when the cure is readily available. As for big pharma profits, there is a way to fix that: to require a company to lower their prices to affordability or the city does not deal with them.
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- phoenix_fire999
- 3 months ago
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northstar13, i guessed that would be many parents response. and it would probably be mine too, BUT...
i still think that some vaccinations should be mandatory but not necessarily all of them. Some diseases have the potential to be eradicated if people were properly vaccinated. 1 in 4 girls has a sexually transmitted disease, with the most common being HPV. If there's a vaccine that would prevent contracting the virus and thus cervical cancer, why then would you argue to NOT give the vaccine? Because it imposes on your constitutional right? Another side of the argument is that sex is a choice so not everyone should have to get the vaccine because they might not choose to have sex. Honestly, cancer is a nasty disease and if mandating the vaccine, which I can assure you is WAY cheaper than treating the cancer, then I say mandate it.
The discussion of vaccines causing autism and other diseases needs more research but there is not enough evidence to support it; it seems more of a coincidence that autism shows up at the same time vaccinations are given more than it does a cause as there are strong cases that it's genetic. -
Every child is not the same. End of argument.
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ya, why let big old corporate Pharmacy prevent the diseases that kill hundreds, because you know, its not like polio is still around so why bother giving you that one when your a child. the point of so many different vaccines these days is because the viruses of old are mutating into stronger ones, so OMG if your kid gets a few more shots, you'll be happy when he doesn't come home with the brand new edition of Avian Flu.
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- big_bad_wolf
- 3 months ago
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To every resident of New York:
Do Now Allow Big Pharma to inject your children with "flu shots."
Take a stand NOW so later down the road the real drug dealers don't try and pedal some bogus shot that can cure world hunger.-
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- Angry_Patriot89
- 3 months ago
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As a thinking, consious person, I say NO WAY!!
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Another liberty at risk of being revoked...here, in the country formerly known as, "The Land Of Liberty".
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let parents parent. nobody would ever force me to put cancerous chemicals into my child's body.
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- diabolical44
- 3 months ago
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I realize that pharmaceutical companies do not have the general interest of the public at heart when they attempt to market drugs. I'd like to think I have a good heart and morale and perhaps I'm the only person that would work to create a drug with the goal of saving lives instead of striking rich. I'm sad that is seems people perceive vaccinations as a means to harm them and their children. I don't think I'm too biased because I work in a pharmacy and I will be a pharmacist one day. With that said, it is NOT my desire to make loads of money. I realize that a lot of drugs are completely unnecessary and really just to make money. But at the same time, I also know that there are a lot of drugs that have saved a lot of lives.
I'm for vaccinating people. Not to make money, but because of the basic knowledge that giving you a shot, will in the end, be cheaper than treating the symptoms of a disease. Most drugs are geared towards symptoms; not curing. However, vaccines are specifically designed to prevent the initial infection of specific strains of specific diseases by invoking an immune response. If pharm companies wanted money, they would NOT cure you from a disease. Flu shots are one of those worthless drugs simply because it mutates so much and the vaccines are not necessarily specific to the current strain; I myself have never had the shot and had the flu only once. But there are also some vaccinations that will prevent you from contracting a infection. Meningitis and HPV (and thus cervical cancer) are just infections that 1. you do not want to contract and 2. people should not have to contract since there are means to prevent it. I do not know what exactly is in vaccinations but ideally a vaccine is meant to cause your immune system to respond like if you came in contact with an infected person. I think that meningococcal and HPV mutate slower than influenza which is why those vaccines are more reliable. The shots they give you are usually weakened or inactivated forms of the organism. Thus, you develop the antibodies and, in theory, would no longer have problems with that specific strain. Vaccines are a quick way of doing this and always easier in that they give you the antibodies with a minimal risk of death because the organisms is not as pathogenic, or it's not as capable of hurting you as it would be in nature or under other circumstances.
Anyway, my point is that I believe that vaccines can save lives and money. And being that I am a nice person, I'd like to think the people that want to mandate this have a better heart than to make money. Besides, they would make WAY more money charging you $100 a pill (current cost of Linezolid, brand name Zyvox) to treat the infection than they ever will by a one time $30 shot. -
this is a direct result of pharmo-company lobbying...our 'so called' representatives selling out to big business interests and our children become the sacrificial offerings to satiate the greed of these inhumane corporations.
Where and when does it stop? They have taken our sons and daughters for their oil war, and now they want our children for their drug experimentation.
What more is it going to take before Americans unitedly put their foot down and say...NO!-
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- Incredulous
- 3 months ago
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This post should be at the top of the list not the bottom, it is a very important and critical subject
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- traceyjones
- 3 months ago
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This is crazy in the sense that all the kids will become depended on some kind of drug for the future to come. New evolutions are being created and drug dependency for survival is a market of wealth.
Any one want to open up a private legal drug store? Money to be made. -
Stop the fuck'n maddness!
Can you say "Autism"
What is S.I.D.S? sudden infant death syndrome.
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With all of the synthetic medicines that have been recalled over the years, with all the side effects caused by medicines on the market today, and without having the knowledge of the side effects of such vaccines until decades later, their is no way I would trust these vaccines. If I lived in NY, I'd be on the phone with my congressman in a heartbeat. This is an attempt to plant a seed for mandating required vaccinations nationwide.
I can see it 20 years from now, these kids will be adults they'll have some sort of new disorder that the drug companies can sell a prescription for. Restless Head Syndrome or Sensitive Foot Disorder or Low Altitude Flatulence.-
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- YourMothersMilk
- 3 months ago
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Do we all remember what happened after the birth control patch was put out on the market? Heart attacks, strokes, etc. Why would we make a relatively very new vaccine for HPV mandatory when we haven't had it out in the market long enough?
What if it is another patch disaster? How long did it take to find all the side effects of The Pill? Why are we so willing to endanger our young women? -
I thought this country was based upon freedom of the speech, freedom of press, anf freedom of our own religon, to make our on decisions, that is my oness. But if i've got to play by the rules i'm being phony. Those who want to sell out need to get the heck of the business.
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How about vaccinating LIBERTY? -
BRAVE NEW WORLD
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- kDrew_Productions
- 3 months ago
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We have all been required to get vaccines our entire lives and we are better off for it. As infants and as school children we have been protected from disease and as a result of it, the human population is seeing longevity and health increase. Vaccines prevent disease and are approved and endorsed by all mainstream science and health providers, including the CDC. Allowing medical professionals to direct medical policy is a good idea. Why should public schools allow children who are not vaccinated to come to school and possibly bring communicable, easy to prevent diseases into the student population? Is that justifiable or good policy? I don't think so.
What we should be concerned about is whether or not certain politicians are profiting from passing such legislation. I don't think that Rick Perry's executive order to vaccinate young girls for HPV was with good intention because he received thousands for passing the legislation from Merck, the only producer of the vaccine at the time, but that doesn't mean that the HPV vaccine is bad.
We should be more concerned with the political corruption involved and allow doctors to do their work, which means encouraging vaccine usage. The picture for this pod is EXTREMELY misleading and Alex Jones is not a credible news source as he is a conspiracy theorist wacko. The fact that he is showing up on this site proves that this story is completely false and is a disgrace to Current and destroys the integrity of this fine website and cable network. This story is not supported by any scientific data and based on the rantings of an insane, late night radio host who has built his "career" on conspiracy theories. Alex Jones, simply put, is a fraud. Preventing a child from receiving medical care is a crime.
If you're looking for credible information from real news networks, rather than the CrAzY-Jones-Spin, check out:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16948093 (for info on Texas Governor Rick Perry)
http://current.com/items/88988183_we_ve_got_you_covered... (for InfoMania's review of Time Magazine which states there is no scientific evidence to support a link between autism and vaccines)-
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- Colonial_Zombie
- 3 months ago
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I think the bill is a bit too extreme.
The flu mutates all the time, there'sno reason to actually get the shot.
The HPV shot hasnt even been in the market long, so it confuses me on why it should be mandatory, and anyway it doesnt prevent the strains that cause HPV. And anyway pap smears are probably better.-
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- ctrl_alt_del
- 3 months ago
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Please check this forum as well for more discussion on the topic. I am strongly opposed to this bill
- A concerned Parent
http://www.livescience.com/common/community/forums/?plc... -
The risk of bad side-effects to vaccines is microscopic, the risk of dying from a disease that a child or adult is not vaccinated against is huge.
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- Vierotchka
- 2 months ago
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Don't vaccinate your children, spread diseases around again - we are far too many people on earth, we need to cull the children.
http://polio.emedtv.com/polio/polio.html-
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- Vierotchka
- 2 months ago
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