Bush's counterterrorism advisor says McCain lied about war too
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The Senate Intelligence Committee has released the long-delayed final phase of its report on prewar intelligence, highlighting the Bush administration's misuse of that intelligence to lead us into war in Iraq. Richard Clarke, former counterterrorism advisor to both the Clinton and Bush administrations, appeared on Countdown with Keith Olbermann to discuss the implications of the report.
Clarke stated unequivocally that figures in the administration lied then and that Senator John McCain is not telling the truth now when he defends them. "Someone should have to pay in some way," Clarke emphasized. "I just don't think we can let these people back into polite society."
"The report does not use the word 'lie,' Olbermann began. "Are there lies?"
"There certainly are," Clarke replied. "This is a big report, but what it says is 'statements by the president were not substantiated by intelligence ... statements by the president were contradicted by available intelligence. In other words, they made things up ... that people in the intelligence community at the time knew were not true. ... To say that this is only something we could have known years later is just not true."
"What are we to make now of Senator McCain's ... remarkable claim that every intel assessment of the time was screaming 'WMD'?" asked Olbermann.
"Senator McCain's statements are contradicted by the facts, too," Clarke replied firmly. "He's also now justifying the intelligence statements of the president. ... We have the proof, four years too late, that those statements were flat out wrong."
"Prominent Democrats said today that impeachment was not a remedy to this," Olbermann continued. "Is there some other kind of remedy?"
"There may be some sort of truth and reconciliation commission process," Clarke said, referring to the system used in South Africa to expose and resolve the atrocities of the apartheid era. "If you come forward and admit that you were in error ... then you are forgiven. Otherwise, you are censured in some way."
"I just don't think we can let these people back into polite society," continued Clarke, "and give them seats on university boards and corporate boards and just pretend that nothing ever happened, when there are 4000 American dead and 25,000 Americans grievously wounded. ... Someone should have to pay in some way for the decisions that they made to mislead the American people."
Clarke concluded by pointing out that even former White House press secretary Scott McClellan is now expressing remorse for his role in the administration's deceptions. "He asked me to forgive him, and I think we do have to forgive people who ask for forgiveness," Clarke stated. "But first they have to admit they lied."
Clarke stated unequivocally that figures in the administration lied then and that Senator John McCain is not telling the truth now when he defends them. "Someone should have to pay in some way," Clarke emphasized. "I just don't think we can let these people back into polite society."
"The report does not use the word 'lie,' Olbermann began. "Are there lies?"
"There certainly are," Clarke replied. "This is a big report, but what it says is 'statements by the president were not substantiated by intelligence ... statements by the president were contradicted by available intelligence. In other words, they made things up ... that people in the intelligence community at the time knew were not true. ... To say that this is only something we could have known years later is just not true."
"What are we to make now of Senator McCain's ... remarkable claim that every intel assessment of the time was screaming 'WMD'?" asked Olbermann.
"Senator McCain's statements are contradicted by the facts, too," Clarke replied firmly. "He's also now justifying the intelligence statements of the president. ... We have the proof, four years too late, that those statements were flat out wrong."
"Prominent Democrats said today that impeachment was not a remedy to this," Olbermann continued. "Is there some other kind of remedy?"
"There may be some sort of truth and reconciliation commission process," Clarke said, referring to the system used in South Africa to expose and resolve the atrocities of the apartheid era. "If you come forward and admit that you were in error ... then you are forgiven. Otherwise, you are censured in some way."
"I just don't think we can let these people back into polite society," continued Clarke, "and give them seats on university boards and corporate boards and just pretend that nothing ever happened, when there are 4000 American dead and 25,000 Americans grievously wounded. ... Someone should have to pay in some way for the decisions that they made to mislead the American people."
Clarke concluded by pointing out that even former White House press secretary Scott McClellan is now expressing remorse for his role in the administration's deceptions. "He asked me to forgive him, and I think we do have to forgive people who ask for forgiveness," Clarke stated. "But first they have to admit they lied."
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"What are we to make now of Senator McCain's ... remarkable claim that every intel assessment of the time was screaming 'WMD'?" asked Olbermann.
"Senator McCain's statements are contradicted by the facts, too," Clarke replied firmly. "He's also now justifying the intelligence statements of the president. ... We have the proof, four years too late, that those statements were flat out wrong."
---Looks like we are going to see McCain playing both sides of the fence on alot of issues. Playing to his base and attempting to attract the more moderate left. Not an easy task! -
Color me surprised
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What wouldn't impeachment (and/or prosecution) remedy!?
Holding this administration responsible for it's unforgivable lies and the murder of tens of thousands of people that resulted from the manipulation of this nation seems like a pretty good idea to me.
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If the Bush administration is not held liable in some sort of fashion then something is wrong with the elected officials in both the house and senate! You cannot let these people get away with murder and wide spead human rights violations. We have declared war with people for the same things the Bush administration is doing now!
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Which top officials didn't lie about it? Those that knew how much money could be made from the war in Iraq, didn't think twice about lying.
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It goes with the job and Mcain or obama will be no different
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- cubbingabout
- 2 months ago
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The US Media made a monster issue out of Bill Clinton's libidonous ways. Why isn't there a level of outrage aimed at GWB and Company's criminal acts that surpasses that, one thousand fold?
Impeach, imprison and leave McCain twisting in the wind. -
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/26/candidates.relatives/index.html#cnnSTCVideo -
Excellent. Thanks for the link pigmonkey.
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- VoyagerFilms
- 2 months ago
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if course the bush administration lied about the WMD'S in iraq and what's sad is alot of men and women was killed in iraq why because if bush's lies he and mccain does'nt care about the men and women in harm's way
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Impeach them all and send them to prison where they belong.
Actually Treason is Death by Hanging. Treason is Death by Hanging. Treason is Death by Hanging. Treason is Death by Hanging. Treason is Death by Hanging. Treason is Death by Hanging. Treason is Death by Hanging. Treason is Death by Hanging. Treason is Death by Hanging. -
Why are they still in the whitehouse right now?
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Lying to the public and going to war without consent is a Treasonous act and they should be hung!
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Treason is death by hanging.
Sounds good to me. These murderers should hang for the damage they have done to the world...possibly irreversible. Why do they still sit in the office. Where is our outrage?-
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- CarolynGillis
- 2 months ago
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Bush sucks the world's Oil dry.
Pipelines are being build all around the world.-
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- celestialceiling
- 2 months ago
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its just a good recap on how they lied and also for people who where not aware.
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- LukesAlive
- 2 months ago
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Uhhhh, duh?
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Bush/Chaney will never face any prosecution because there are enough Republicans in Congress to block anything the people might feel is needed to have retribution for all the wasted lives and money.
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While impeachment may not be a viable option, making them pay for the decisions they made is. I agree with Clarke, they shouldn't be allowed to conduct business as usual. The families who have lost loved ones since Bush has been in office haven't been able to conduct business as usual and niether should the people that got us into this mess.
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- samanthadian
- 2 months ago
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You'd think McCain would have the common sense to not make Bush's mistake before he runs for office. Everyone knows you're supposed to make those mistakes after you run for office. Is he really less intelligent than Bush?
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- PoisonTheMonkey
- 2 months ago
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Clinton was impeached for getting his wee wee sucked and this piece of shit is not impeachment worthy. Get Fu#ked. He should be sent to gitmo, water boarded, stripped naked and put through photo shop with a bag on his head and some crazy lez with a cig out of the side of her mouth smiling in the shot (ok barbara or lura will do). I can go on for days. Firends dont let frineds preside drunk.
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you all should really check out Bilderberg. some of the most powerful people from around the world meet there and basically in secrecy; no mainstream media is covering it. please google "Bilderberg" or more more indomation vist "infowars.com" thank you.
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- banshee_beat
- 2 months ago
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Clinton had sex and got impeached. How is lying to Congress not a hundred times worse? This man needs to be impeached, no matter how close to the next elections we are. The American people need to stand up and declare that they will not be lied to.
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- PoisonTheMonkey
- 2 months ago
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No Repub wanted the office at this time. McCain is a scape goat. He is a sacrificial lamb.
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Why hasn't the mainstream media been all over this? Even they surely must realize this is hot news. Or are they too afraid of Bill O'Reilly, Cheney, Rove and their walkers?
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- PoisonTheMonkey
- 2 months ago
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I hope Current does not keep sidestepping the issues that we are obviously concerned about to cover there own editors stories about Clinton backs Obama and 3-D microscopes.
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they shouldnt if were voting right?
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Today, another earthquake hit Peru and Puerto Rico. These spots have been hit over and over again. HAARP can cause this.
Troops are entering Peru, Energy giants are drilling oil, the Amazon is being demolished, the Peruvians are fighting back.
We may have "caught" Bush in his lies, but he's still at it! And he's taking over a new part of the world...-
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- celestialceiling
- 2 months ago
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Send 'em to Gitmo.
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- chilipeppers675
- 2 months ago
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How is Diddy on Obama above this and U.S treating child prisoners inhumanly? 31 responses and 86 approval rating against 12 responses and 55 percent approval.
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Of course we are always lied to.
We were lied to about why the US went to war.
The US obviously went to war because Bush wanted to finish his father's job.
WE BETTER NOT START ANOTHER WAR WITH IRAN! -
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here is the report for download.
http://intelligence.senate.gov/080605/phase2a.pdf-
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- ThomasGreen
- 2 months ago
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Thanks for waiting five years to bring this up guys. Good job.
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Did any of you read the Minority's Dissent? I find their arguments to be persuasive. I really like the part where they hoist the Democrats on their own petard. Look at some of the statements they were making before the war. Clinton, Kerry, Rockefeller . . . all spoke with the same certainty and assuredness as The President. The bottom line is that our intelligence community failed us. We should spend our time and effort on correcting that problem instead of political point scoring.
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Look at all the amendments that were rejected by the majority. Sure does look like there was a gargantuan effort to distort the record here . . . by the Democratic Majority.
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Not all Politicians lie. You have to trust your judgement. John McBush does not know when he is lying or not. He just says what people want to hear, lie or not. This guy
