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Brown wins terrorism 42-day detention plan

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The controversial plans to allow terrorism suspects to be held for 42 days instead of 28 days were narrowly approved yesterday evening.

The government won by nine votes, with 315 MPs backing its position and 306 MPs voting against it.

Much has been said about the controversial plans, with human rights claiming it is unreasonable and some MPs claiming it's necessary.

Sky News sums up why Gordon is so keen to rock the vote:
"Although Mr Brown has insisted the clash with rebels is not a vote of confidence in his leadership, defeat on 42 days would be a devastating blow to his authority."

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91211-1318664,00...
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20 responses // Brown wins terrorism 42-day detention plan

  • It's a travesty that this bill has become mired with a leadership vote of confidence, with Labour whips pulling on MPs party loyalty when the issue at stake is one of civil liberty.
    dearmat23
  • did you know that gordon brown was two people hiding inside an escape artist who left his left side to decide what was right for his side all the while fighting each other?

    no? not many people know that.
    J_current
  • The vote was 'won' with a 'majority' of 9!

    And followed a day of bribery by the Labour government.

    I think it would take an optimist of the highest order to view this as a victory for Brown, but no doubt it will spun as such.
    emmahill
  • Also that's a really good point dearmat23, I hope the Labour MPs who voted with the government did so because of principles, and not because they felt brow-beaten into backing their 'under0fire' leader.
    emmahill
  • I bet Brown got the best night' sleep he's had in ages.

    I think if he hadn't won the approval, he'd be feeling like the last kid to get picked to play playground football.
    subsequent
  • Legislation and heavyweight decisions (that they appear to have made on the way to work) are 'bad' legislations.

    Besides, we haven't yet been told of a single case where 42 day detention would have prevented a terrorist crime.
    Mr_Costello
  • Difficult decisions, protecting the nation, or human rights. Issues like this have not been seen till recently since the Magna Carta.

    Is this protecting our nation? Is this going to make us more free? Considering it may destroy civil liberties of others, can we really justify our own then? Can we really detain and without charging possibly innocent (as it is innocent till proven guilty) people, and then justify that it is for the safety of our country and it's citizens? What of compensation?
    rebecca22
  • paste the address for anything from the web
    The BBC are reporting that Gordon Brown and his ministers are denying that they "bought" the victory in the commons!
    NinaS
  • The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, and hence clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

    The modern mind has endless energy for banal distractions, sports results, trouser length, soap operas, the next big thing, but not time to expend upon the circumstances of the world at large, human, animal, mineral and vegetable. All because of a system of propaganda that has made civilized man a spectator and a consumer to support an unsustainable way of life.

    When are we going to wake up and smell the coffee? We and our American cousins are all the good Germans.

    OK, I'm off my soap box now, but I'm not happy about it!
    dearmat23
  • The amount of days might be horrible to some but if they don't mistreat them then I don't see the total travesty here. If they still hold normal rights such as good housing, food and bath then it's like a vacation or should be. They shouldn't be thrown into jail for that amount of time if they are only being suspected and not charged.

    House arrest or something like that. I understand the alarmist mentality but this is a protection to make sure they are not terrorist. The government gets into trouble for not protecting the people and then in trouble when they do.

    I think the people need to stop constantly nit picking everything and pick their battles.
    J_Jammer
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  • David Davies - the shadow Home Secretary has just announced his resignation!

    His decision will force a by-election in his constituency.

    He says he will fight for his seat back, campaigning against the 42 day detention issue.

    Wow - who knew this vote would have had such repercussions!
    emmahill
  • he is also a monkey in a suitcase being transported overseas by an african arab, a political metaphor in a spineless book that sheds it's skin every documentary. officially known as a tape recorder, you can say you read it on the internet.
    J_current
  • Gordon? are you making the New Labour the new Conservative?
    beefcurry

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