'Jewish settler attack' on film

What identifies these perpetrators as Israelis? The way the head wraps are worn in this video is more common among the Hamas millitants style of clothing.

Did this occur in Gaza or the West Bank? If Gaza, Hamas is known to pass out cameras to people and make fake attacks against their own people as a PR stunt.

Additionally, the settlers are entirely gone from Gaza.

Jewish kids of this age group are usually in the Israeli military, yet these kids don't hold themselves like people who are in or have been in the military.

Why did the people in the video stay still and wait to be beaten up? The victims are shepards, why don't they have any instruments with them to hold off abuse?

I am not saying that abuses to Palestinians don't happen, but this video seems questionable to me.

all too common, yet the world is blind to it.

The settlers are a problem, but you could post videos of the same exact thing for the other side. I remember speaking to an IDF soldier who told me that staying in Hebron was the worst. You protected the palestinians from the settlers, while the settlers tried to hurt you, then the next day you protected the settlers from the Palestinians, while the Palestinians tried to hurt you.

And stating "This is what Israeli children are taught" is inflammatory and not true. Just because a small group of wackos encourage their children to behave this way, doesn't mean it happens nationwide. Go to Israeli. It's quite the opposite.

http://www.nfowars.net:443/stream1.ram

http://www.infowars.com/32k.asx

anyone who votes for obama or mccain is voting for this to continue with finding of our tax dollars, but on a massive scale


Vote Ron Paul "08" to stop the funding of terrorists

again the is not a surprise the fight between israelis and palestinians been going on since jesus was alive and it's not gonna stop

Carolyn - I'd like to see you defend the oppressed, the persecuted, the murdered from their oppressors, not defending "jews" or Israeli's".

We know not all Israeli's want to kill arabs. This isn't the 1930's.

You don't see me defending America for it's savagery do you? I call it as I see it. Not all American's are okay with innocent Iraqi's or anyone dying - whether we happen to agree with them or not. Whether they have natural resources or not.

You ain't doin' anybody any favors taking a defensive posture - which only serves to divert attention and discussion away from the real issue, the crisis!

The crisis isn't that peaceful, tolerant, accepting, compassionate and caring jews or Israeli's are lumped together with the devil incarnate using your religion to justify murder and all things we hate. The real crisis is the murdering of Palestinians; the destruction of lives and homes, etc.

If you don't get that - I'm sorry, but I'd have to lump you into the category of a dysfunctional, self-deceived ignorant and an enabler of MURDERERS and TERRORISTS.

Your position defending Israel and jews helps no one but yourself and those monsters you consider part of your tribe, your family.

It's these murderous / monstrous ways we hate, not the people.

And the struggle continues..

Voyager, you're doing the exact same thing, accusing everyone of being monsters and murders and terrorists. You know nothing of the situation, I doubt you've ever been to Israel or the territories, or even spoken to any Israelis. Does your bombastic language "devil incarnate" and other such nonsense get you anywhere? Does it achieve anything? No. You want to criticize Israeli policies, fine, I have no problem with that. Feel free to do so. But until you're ready to address the situation like an adult, or until you've been there and see whats going on, I'd kindly ask you to keep that rhetoric to yourself. Does the occupation need to end? Yes. The situation is terrible. But you draw no distinctions with your words, and your blatant exaggeration (a woman that defends Israelis against calls of being monstrous and evil and is so clearly in favor of peace is enabling murder? really?) you do no good for anyone.

Video = Proof
Arm the armless with video cameras!

I spoke (wrote) pretty clearly - dgold0101. Perhaps you should reread what I wrote.

I do understand, I have spoken to Israelis / Jews, I have a greater understanding than the emotionalized positions of those involved who "can't see the forest for the trees".

I am relatively objective on the subject and I do not have a "dog in this fight". To me it's about right and wrong, plain and simple. All the justifications in the world are mistaken attempts at validation of the dysfunctional.

I am not taking sides either. The same holds true with radical, dysfunctional Arabs also.

This story by a concentration camp survivor was sent to me a couple of years ago/
It's called SCHADENFREUDE and the author is Sy Frumkin. It's about deep seated hatred that even in the face of kindness just remains deep seated hatred. It's very sad. Here it is on a website should anyone care to read it.
http://www.infoisrael.net/cgi-local/text.pl?source=7/a/...

It's a shame the sane and decent jews have to be labeled as terrorists and monsters, not to mention have their lives taken, because of malicious propaganda and radical fools. I'd really appreciate people stop targeting "Israel" and "jews" because the huge community of jews are NOT the ones responsible for this and they SURE AS HELL don't want it. Choose you're words properly, it means a lot more than you think.

The same goes for palestinians.

How long are we going to continue killing and hating each other?

VF

I am sorry that I also was wrong in this post.
I should have started with how tragic the situation is..not with my being upset about how it was worded..I'm sorry.

you are trying to do the right thing posting this and defending your position. The words you are choosing might be the cause of concern.This is a hot, life and death, war and peace issue...I love children and little babies.. and the sight of little ones mutilated in any culture or color hurts me equally. The same goes for their families.

Right on PWiliemse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is an age old battle. The chief foundational argument in the Molem/Jewish "rivalry" is that the Jewish people believe that Abraham was about to sacrifice Isaac-his son with Sarah when God asked him to do so to show his faith. The Moslem people believe that it was Ishmael, Abraham's son with Hagar, the Egyptian, that was the child that he brought to the altar for the sacrifice. If anyone's read the book or seen the movie, Ishmael was cast out into the desert by his father and so was born the foundation of the Moslem nation(s). So, for anyone who doesn't think that this is some serious business perhaps they should look into history.
One other tidbit, Hitler was very good buddies with teh Grand Mufti. Not that he considered him an aryan but der Feuhrer believed that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Google Grand Mufti and Hitler and see what comes up. Or you might go back to the Ottoman Empire or the Inquisition and do some reading. The story of the semitic brothers that started beating on each other thousands of years ago has never stopped and it has taken many turns.
And I believe in my heart that it is not the people of either side. It is what evil governments do and use the little guy to do their work for them. Who would choose war over peace? Unless there was a profit to be made or power to be harvested.
And I too would appreciate the bashing to stop on this site. It serves no purpose.
I notice one thing and that is the high mindedness of some of the posters. I give you great credit for trying to take pure hatred backed up with no facts and try to make peace of it. It is very apparent who wants to fight and who wants to make sholom or salem and who wants to make hate. Private Ibber

Just to even the playing field with all of these horrible videos that cannot be verified...let's play one that can. Not only is it real but it is removed from You Tube in English. On in Germany where the bite and sting is ever present do they have the nerve to keep this up. If we are going to do an up an back before our peace fest which I hope will come soon, let's get it all on the table.
http://www.freedomszone.com/archives/2006/08/hitler_and...

Thanks privateibber - BUT, I wasn't alive before, during and not till long after Hitler existed.

What is contained in the link you provided applies to only the old deadwood who are incapable of letting go of the past, and those who they have warped the minds of. To the rest of us that have been since Hitler's death, this means nothing.

My parents were not racist in any way, shape or form. I was not / am not racist in any way shape or form.

I married into a Jewish family. A typical Jewish family - who rejected me because I was not Jewish; because I didn't have a degree; because I wasn't knocking down lots of money.

My Christian family accepted them and my ex-wife as one of their own, and still do. Her Jewish family rejects me, still. They were and are still terrible grand parents to my children.

Needless to say, I am divorced - quite happily, and it is extremely unlikely I would marry another Jew for these reasons. You know, once bitten, twice shy.

Those of you who put any religion before people and decency are lost souls. Those of you who do not see that murder is murder is murder regardless of the excuse, justification or rationalization is still murder (except in defense and only if absolutely necessary for one's own safety) should re-consider your position.

And forget it, you can not argue that Israel is justified in the stealing of Palestinian and Lebanese land for reasons of security.

I'd bet money Israel is angle drilling and stealing oil and or natural gas from it's impoverished neighbors.

Thanks Caroline.

How I express my position is a response to the propaganda spewed by Rupert Murdock and his legion of brain dead who label themselves "journalists", as well as the pro-Israeli agenda propaganda organizations in my country whose purpose it is to use America and American's to aid and abet their evil deeds, not to mention drain our wealth.

I wasn't saying you considered murderers as part of your family or religion, just that it is as necessary to identify whom or what it is you are defending - so as not to appear sympathetic to "murderers".

This thread isn't about nor passing judgment on Jews or even whether or not an independent Israeli state should exist. It's about the atrocities and suffering of innocent, oppressed people.

the sad thing about this conflict that innocent children both israelis and palestinians children are being caught in the crossfire

The true solution is more schools with all the peoples of Israel, West Bank, and Gaza Strip attending. Only the young can truly learn tolerance and friendship without much struggle.

There is a community in Jaffe where some community youths joined together to create a band called System Ali. Even though they are from all different backgrounds their combined music is brilliant. (MySpace has some of their songs if interested.)

The current hatred burns too bright for the adults (on both sides) to see its self destructiveness.

Side Note: One of videos above with Brats stoning their Arabic Neighbors, I believe. Although Jewish, I was stoned for walking near certain neighborhoods in Jerusalem. Some of the more religious Israeli families need to keep better control of their children and stop teaching hatred of anyone slightly different than them.