TV Schedule

McCain: America Established As A Christian Nation


  3. Future_America
  4. related topics
Last fall, John McCain said that he wanted a Christian to be president because he felt that the Christian faith was a better guide than other faiths. He also said that his faith was an important part of his qualification to lead, adding the the United States Constitution established the America as a Christian nation.

Ask yourself what the media would have done if Jeremiah Wright had uttered those words, especially if he had been talking about race instead of religion?

What if Barack Obama himself had said them?

Yet when John McCain spews religious bigotry during the middle of a presidential campaign, the media barely paid his comments any attention whatsoever.
Future_America

28 responses // McCain: America Established As A Christian Nation

  • ".. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle."
    Geroge Washington's farevell Address
    soleil10
  • "Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains.

    A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom.

    Patrick Henry
    soleil10
  • Hmmm, weren't most of the USA's founders Deists and not Christians?
    moot_button
  • "Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift of God?

    That they are not to be violated but with His wrath ?

    I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just."

    Thomas Jefferson
    soleil10
  • "Our constitution was made only for moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

    John Adams
    soleil10
  • Obama could have said these words.

    He said that he was a christian.

    What is your point ?
    soleil10
  • "in god we trust"" one nation under god" i wounder were they come up with those statements?
    wislogger
  • or maby they meant in Allah we trust
    wislogger
  • ".....adding the the United States Constitution established the America as a Christian nation."

    Some one should ask him for the exact article and paragraph.......i'd like to read it myself.
    seeker561
  • "In God We Trust" became the official U.S. national motto after the passage of an Act of Congress in 1956.[1]

    The addition of "under God" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance by Eisenhower on Flag Day (June 14, 1954).

    Sad to say it was done because we feared communism.
    Marilynn_Murray
    2 responses to this
  • Our founding Fathers intended we have a separation of church and state because they didn't want the problems England faced every time they got a new king and people had to change churches. That was one of the reasons people left and came here. Freedom of religion, and freedom from religion.
    Marilynn_Murray
    1 response to this
  • "Fondly do we hope--fervently do we pray--that this mighty scourge of war may pass away yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth piled by the bond-man's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by another drawn with the sword,as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgements of the lord,are true and righteous altogether".

    Abraham Lincoln, 2nd Inaugural Address
    soleil10
  • "Here is my creed. I believe in one God, the creator of the universe. That he governs it by his Providecne. That he ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable service we render to him is in doing good to his other children.

    That the soul of man is immortal and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this.

    These I take to be fundamentals points in all sound religion"

    Benjamin Franklin
    soleil10
  • Here is my policy. Don't proselytize. If people want religion they will find it. Don't trust anyone with a God bumper sticker. If they are truly a good person people would notice without them having to advertise.
    Marilynn_Murray
  • I am not proselytizing.

    The subject of this post is questioning if America was established as a Christian Nation and of course ridiculing McCain for saying it.

    I am just quoting these past leaders. The ignorance and the distortion here is so deep about American history.

    It is a real disaster.
    soleil10
  • "We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator(any god)with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.---That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among people, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,---THAT WHENEVER ANY FORM OF GOVERNMENT BECOMES DESTRUCTIVE OF THESE ENDS, IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO ALTER OR TO ABOLISH IT, AND TO INSTITUTE NEW GOVERNMENT....

    Lighthouses are more helpful than churches.---Benjamin Franklin

    .."no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny.."---George Washington

    That I am not a member of any Christian Church, is true.---Abe Lincoln

    A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and is turned out for what he knows.--
    Samuel Clemens

    The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.---Ferdinand Magellan

    Not only is there no god, but try getting a plumber on the weekends.--Woody Allen

    Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.---Edward Gibbon

    It's an incredible con job when you think about it, to believe in something now in exchange for something after death. Even corporations with their reward systems don't try to make it posthumous.---Gloria Steinem

    Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile.---Kurt Vonnegut

    The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.---George Bernard Shaw

    I believe in god only I spell it nature.---Frank Lloyd Wright


    John Adams---"As the government of the United States of America ,is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.." ---Treaty of Tripoli 1797

    God, protect me from your followers.--my bumper sticker
    recommended by  Marilynn_Murray
    menmykoko
  • future_america thats because the media are completely owned by corporate interests not some grand altruistic defender of truth out reporting facts. of course they let it slide after all mccain will continue the war. profits will be up. shareholders will be pleased and fortunes are waiting to be made!!! and as to christian nation i would say a nation that held a firm belief in god. not a nation that held a firm belief in christianity. not one sects definition of god or religion. but a belief in right and wrong and an observance of certain principles and ethics that that belief implied is what was intended. and by god if it wasnt .it sure should have been.in my not so humble flippant opinion.
    recommended by  Marilynn_Murray
    somefamilylove
  • What ever happened to seperation of church and state?Are we going to elect a preacher or a president? If they are a preacher, will it be the Old Testament wrath of god type, or the love thy neighbor and be accepting of others type?
    Maybe we should vote the best person for the job, regardless of religious indoctrination, race, creed, color,
    sexual preferance, family history, cloths, looks, dancing ability, who they dated in Jr. High, inhaled, exhaled, or drank the dang bong water.
    bluestranger
  • Exactly bluestranger! The psychopathic conservatives that think religion is a prerequisite to preside over the country's infrastructure, healthcare, education, economics, homeland security, and delivery systems for food and water. They need to stop philosophizing and just do the goddamned job. If they spent more time helping than punishing people, and ceased trying to appear morally superior it would unite this country instead of dividing it.
    menmykoko
  • wow is this tape cut up badly enough? What were the questions being asked? And quite frankly Christainity was what the nation was predominantly made up on. It is just history that every president until JFK was Christian and that every one since was Christian. And JFK was Catholic, still a judeo-Christian belief system, same bible. It has always been an issue that our leaders have faith in something greater than themselves, Look at Bush and Cheney, they are either the political version of beavis and butthead or they are not really Christian because they lost fear of an after life so they have been as horrible as they can in this one! And people have different perceptions of religion, but under the definition of a religion is atheism, agnostics, it isn't that there is such a thing as no religion because everyone has abelief about what happens after death, and that is a religion.
    dcrc9596
  • and i couldnt agree more. if the person was right for the job and had demonstrated integrity and dependability i would vote for an actor who smoked pallmalls and drank toilet water and believed only in creation,or accident,or joke, or god,allah,budha,muhamed, or roger.
    somefamilylove
  • Future_America,

    I take it that you are not Christian?

    Possibly not Jewish either?
    PatrickEdwardMurray
  • As a Christian, I am disgusted by John McCain's remarks in this video.

    America is a secular nation that respects people of all faiths and people of no religion. The Separation of Church and State is what has protected religious liberty and our secular government, and McCain shows little understanding of that in this clip.
    Colonial_Zombie
  • I don't care who he prays to as long as I don't have to hear about it, and he does a good job as president for all the people----but advertising religion as if it were a prerequisite for a political office is not what the constitution was made for--quite the opposite, let alone the Declaration of Independence, which was a declaration to get away from a divine providence god given right style of ruling people.
    menmykoko
  • Why are Christians always showen as the good guys?If I recall correctly the church has a long history of being the oppresser.America is much to open-minded to founded on Christian state.
    Skut
  • if this country was built on "christian principles" then 400 years of slavery wouldnt have existed, killing and shooting native americans; people that were already here before english even got here wouldnt have existed, racism as a political tactic wouldnt have existed, civil war wouldnt have existed. and I would kno im a christian, and americas past doesnt seem to be built on christian principles.
    iah
    • iah
    • 3 months ago

Add your response

Login/Registration is required to add a response.