Could Texas schools teach Creationism soon?

I'm with the chimp!

Agh not again, as a resident of PA I've become familiar with these silly debates. A) Teaching Creationism is morally questionable at best. B) no empirical evidence no teaching in science class. C) didn't we solve this controversy like 50 years ago and that it was an inappropriate topic for class discussion? Why do the, no offense intended, hick states like mine always try this kinda stuff?

Oh great. The science standards will be revised, law suits will be filed, the state board will be voted out, and we'll end up back where we started . . . trying to drag science education in America into the 21st century despite having a religious ball and chain tied around its ankle.

It's an Orangutan but I am with him also.

Evolution is the term we use for the way God creates in the Universe.

If you want to know God, study his creations....:)

Sadly, and I mean very sadly, I lived in Texas, thank God we left in time....

This is the same state that gave Ambassador
Adlai Stevenson a real difficult time...

The same state that killed JFK..

The same state that gave us GWB!

Now, how hard is it to figure this out?

Maybe there is something in the air or water?

WHO CARES?

Someone not knowing of evolution is going to die? Do people who believe in Evolution live longer? Why does it matter if their idea what happen isn't the only thing being taught?

Oh that's right science propaganda disguised as "Fact".

Disgusting behavior by "smart" and "mature" people.

I wouldn't push to have it taught nor am I going to make a big stupid stink about it being taught. Whatever is what I say. What's it to anyone else? I'm sorry that you can't force everyone to think like you.

Not a pity.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And God said let there be light and there was Light ( Gen. 1:1)
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God. (St. John 1:1-2

Dude Patrick...are you serious? Do you live in Texas?...if so, what crazy, neo-con, private, Christian highschool did you go to, or still go to?

Evolution is the term we use for the way Earth naturally and scientifically EVOLVED!

WWJD--He would sign the Texas Freedom Network's petition (and I'm not talking about Jesus, no I'm speaking about myself...my name is Joel). ; )

Hey everybody! Notice that super cool J Jammer guy? Man he is so edgy and independent...he dosen't care about anything, thats sooo awesome!

Plus he's like a cool video game charater!

Zombie,

I just listened to the interview of Don McLeroy

Your title is misleading, dishonest and just a lie.
You should be ashamed of yourself.

What they want to include in their science curriculum is a discussion of the strength and weaknesses of evolution.

Students should be able to ask questions, express their critical thinking.

Your one thought police mentality is just sickening.

No one gives good reason to care about this.

No one gives good reason to care about impeaching Bush.

No one gives good care to care about every single moment a gay person gets married.

There's much more important things out there. Yes it's important that people get rights, but not every time they move a toe.

This is not important because they are still going to learn Evolution and whatever good that does, only God knows.

Guys....I actually live in Texas and I know they're not going to stop the teaching of evolution, they're just probably going to ahow there's other views on how the world was made. It's not bad to be skeptical of things.

Open your minds people... what is so terrible about giving our kids two different views and allowing them to choose for themselves. what are you so afraid of?

I'm with everyone saying that a dual view is not going to destroy the fabric of our society.

I'll start teaching creationism or intelligent design in my classroom when they start teaching evolution in church. If they're equivalent, why not?

'Evolution' is a solid theory in biology.
'Creationism' has to do with faith or theology or something.

There is nothing wrong with more than one scientific theory being taught, but no other scientific theories have come anywhere close to evolution.

In any case, science class is not the place to teach religion.
Creationism is religious thought masquerading as science.
Someone tell me why religion should be taught in schools, a state run institution, when the US Constitution clearly states the separation between church and state?
While they're at it, could they please enlighten me as to how Creationism is anywhere near a "scientific theory," rather than just a theory based on unprovable myths of one particular culture?

The only "evidence" for Creationism boils down to:
a) It was written [by men] in the Bible
b) "We don't know for sure, so how can you say it's not true?"

Evolution = conceived by the non-biased scientific process, has mounds and mounds of evidence, logically sound, etc.
Creationism = Judeo-Christian belief

The founding fathers did not found a theocracy.
If you don't know why a theocracy is such a bad idea, see all of history.

That picture of McLeroy (if you click the link at the top of this page) is pretty funny. He looks like a smug, mildly evil, hairless monkey! I love it when reason and intelligence have a guy that look like him for an enemy. It all just kinda adds up.

By the way, there are no alternatives to evolution. Evolution is fact. This whole "debate" is just stupid and, really, an embarrassment to our country, the only modern nation in the world where people still talk about this. You are welcome to disagree with me all you want, but you are wrong. There is still such a thing as wrong.

Oh god, not this crap again.

Darwin is rolling in his grave. Again.

Oh sad. How horrible is it to confuse the minds of children. These so called "weaknesses" of evolution are what, unexplainable processes? So then if we use religion to explain these things what will happen when science in it's process unveils the truth. People will have to decide whether to believe in faith or science and that is just sad. I am graduate in biology and have full faith in both evolution and religion, they are not comparable and religion should not ever enter a scientific classroom.

It's funny that people cry out against anti-creationists, aka people worried about the introduction of this curriculum, as being narrow-minded. It somehow turns the debate around and gives pro-Creationists a gentle appeal in which we are all led to believe that they are gently laying down their side of the story, when in fact they are bashing evolution and teaching their side as the one and only correct path. There's enough narrow-mindedness going around as it is, we don't need further anti-anti-Creationism complaints.

Creationism is not a science. It is a religous belief and therefore has no place in our school system.

There has been more evidence found to support the theory of evolution than there ever has to disprove it, but even that point is moot in the face of seperation of church and state.

Don't they know that kids can go home and read about evolution online? It doesn't matter what they teach in any subject, a curious kid can learn about whatever he/she wants.

I love the photo! Ha!

Even if the curriculum requires this teaching, would the teachers really have to abide by it? I mean, how wrong is it for a teacher to teach something they don't believe in?

So they say that an all knowing creature created every and that to them is smart but the world slowly evolving into what it is now, that to them is stupid. They can think what they want but they shouldn't push it onto the kids of that school.

Joel,

I'm 51 years old thank you..

And obviously you know little of science...
Because, if you did you would know this..

" The denial of scientific knowledge is not a prerequisite of religious faith; nor is it necessary to deny the existence of God in order to pursue science. Albert the great, father of geology; Roger Bacon,father of chemistry; Gregor Mendel,father of genetics; Christopher Clavius, the "second Euclid" of the Renaissance; Angelo Secchi, the father of astrophysics; Georges Lemaitre, inventor of the "Big Bang" theory....all were priests or monks. Indeed, up until the rise of the modern university in the nineteenth century, most scientists were in fact clergymen- they alone had the education, and the free time, to indulge in scientific pursuits.

Copernicus, Tycho Brahe, Galileo, Kepler, Newton...
all considered themselves to be devout Christians.
So did James Clerk Maxwell, whose theory of electromagnetism made possible the twentieth century, and Guglielmo Marconi, who used Maxwell's equations to make radio and it's descendants possible. Einstein, though not aligned with any particular religion,valued his Jewish heritage and professed a devout theism. Buzz Aldrin, an Episcopal lay minister, brought the Eacharist to the Moon"

...Page 85 Brother Astronomer: Adventures of a Vatican Scientist Brother Guy Consolmagno S.J. PhD
Vatican Observatory Copyright 2000

And Brother Guy's outlook on Creationism vs Evolution?

Bad science training and Bad Theological training.

Oh and btw, Catholics, like myself are damn tired of hearing gobbledegoop from Non Christians and Evangelical idiots too!

J_Jammer,

What should be a bother is that many folks can not figure out that Evolution happens and that God uses that process to create.

Some folks just think they are so very smart denying God and others think they are so very smart putting God into a box of their own fashioning, incapable of realizing the awesome power of God.

In any event, if you grow up to believe that science is
not important or even evil that kind of judgement will color many other judgements...

Like how one votes...

And THAT is what bothers me!

I don't think God gives kudos for being dum!

In related news:

Republicans dismiss reports of Iowa flooding as "mere theory" and demand that equal coverage be given to reports that there is NO flooding occuring at all in Iowa.

"That there is some kind of flooding disaster occuring in the Midwest is just liberal propoganda disguised as fact," claimed one Texas school teacher.

"Follow the money! Al Gore hates Jesus and he's spreading lies about so-called flooding occuring in the Midwest in order to make money," proclaimed one commenter on Current.com

"It's natural! Floods occurs in naturally occuring cycles and there for NO GOVERMENT RESPONSE IS NEEDED! Government assistance only makes things worse. Better to do nothing and let market forces do their magic." -- statement issued from Republican Presidential nominee John McCain.

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The assualt on reason begins in high school.

Today it's creationism taught as science, tomorrow it'll be teaching the "weaknesses" of civil liberties and how much better we'll all be if only we make Bush our god-king and give him total control over every aspect of our lives.

There's nothing wrong with teaching Creationism as a religious study of some sort but not as a counter point to science.

You have no idea how happy i am that i wasn't born in Texas. A bunch of close minded idiots.