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U.S. Sergeant refuses to go to Iraq: "This occupation is unconstitutional and illegal"

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On Capitol Hill last month, an American soldier named Matthis Chiroux publicly announced his refusal to deploy to Iraq.



Matthis Chiroux is the kind of young American U.S. military recruiters love.

"I was from a poor, white family from the south, and I did badly in school," the now 24-year-old said.

"I was 'filet mignon' for recruiters. They started phoning me when I was in 10th grade," or around 16 years old, he added.

Chiroux joined the U.S. army straight out of high school nearly six years ago, and worked his way up from private to sergeant.

He served in Afghanistan, Germany, Japan, and the Philippines and was due to be deployed next month in Iraq.

On Thursday, he refused to go, saying he considers Iraq an illegal war.

"I stand before you today with the strength and clarity and resolve to declare to the military, my government and the world that this soldier will not be deploying to Iraq," Chiroux said in the sun-filled rotunda of a congressional building in Washington.

"My decision is based on my desire to no longer continue violating my core values to support an illegal and unconstitutional occupation… I refuse to participate in the Iraq occupation," he said, as a dozen veterans of the five-year-old Iraq war looked on.

Minutes earlier, Chiroux had cried openly as he listened to former comrades-in-arms testify before members of Congress about the failings of the Iraq war.

The testimonies were the first before Congress by Iraq veterans who have turned against the five-year-old war.

Former army sergeant Kristofer Goldsmith told a half-dozen US lawmakers and scores of people who packed into a small hearing room of "lawless murders, looting and the abuse of countless Iraqis."

He spoke of the psychologically fragile men and women who return from Iraq, to find little help or treatment offered from official circles.

Goldsmith said he had "self-medicated" for several months to treat the wounds of the war.

Another soldier said he had to boost his dosage of medication to treat anxiety and social agoraphobia -- two of many lingering mental wounds he carries since his deployments in Iraq -- before testifying.

Some 300,000 of the 1.6 million US soldiers who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan suffer from the psychological traumas of post-traumatic stress disorder, depression or both, an independent study showed last month.

A group of veterans sitting in the hearing room gazed blankly as their comrades' testimonies shattered the official version that the US effort in Iraq is succeeding.

Almost to a man, the soldiers who testified denounced serious flaws in the chain of command in Iraq.

Luis Montalvan, a former army captain, accused high-ranking U.S. officers of numerous failures in Iraq, including turning a blind eye to massive fraud on the part of U.S. contractors.

Ex-Marine Jason Lemieux told how a senior officer had altered a report he had written because it slammed U.S. troops of using excessive force, firing off thousands of rounds of machine gun fire and hundreds of grenades in the face of a feeble four rounds of enemy fire.

Goldsmith accused U.S. officials of censorship.



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62 responses // U.S. Sergeant refuses to go to Iraq: "This occupation is unconstitutional and illegal"

  • "Dissent among the ranks is the highest form of patriotism." ~Thomas Jefferson.
    BretByron
  • Related Link: http://ivaw.org/
    BretByron
  • Men like Matthis, Jason and Luis who have the balls to stand up and tell the truth, are the real warriors.
    Ogmin
  • This is where the tide really turns.
    Soldiers refusing to fight is what ended the Viet Nam war.

    If you want to learn more about that please check out this amazing documentary:

    http://www.sirnosir.com/
    onechance
  • More and more current soldiers and veterans of the Iraq war are joining the opposition to this occupation.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=QT44mis7qDg

    When you listen to their stories, you get a much different picture of what is actually going on in Iraq than what is reported in the media.
    SpookyFish
  • I was watching something on free speech tv that said the same thing about WWI. Thousands of troops just started walking home.
    BretByron
  • Matthias Chiroux, a true Patriot, has found his mission.
    futuregen
  • ha ha, that is awesome, too bad the active duty guy will most likely serve some time, but he did the right thing
    jlaboy
  • This courageous young man does not stand alone.

    If you want to learn more, check out:

    http://ivaw.org/wintersoldier

    Winter Soldier: Iraq & Afghanistan

    Winter Soldier: Iraq and Afghanistan featured testimony from U.S. veterans who served in those occupations, giving an accurate account of what is really happening day in and day out, on the ground.

    This four-day event brought together veterans from across the country to testify about their experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan - and present video and photographic evidence. In addition, panels of scholars, veterans, journalists, and other specialists gave context to the testimony. These panels covered everything from the history of the GI resistance movement to the fight for veterans' health benefits and support.
    seeker561
  • I very proud of you for standing up!
    shroomfairy
  • What is a legal war?


    Has this kind of dissent occured in every war? If so, what does it mean, if anything?
    telekinesis
  • He is right, This is indeed a wrong War and the American Public needs to stop it ASAP and not wait for someone to risk their necks at Martial Courts! I hope people will get behind this hero and support him now!

    "We must have peace among Nations respecting our cultural values and differences. The only War we have is the War for more education and against poverty."
    stopnoise
  • this is wonderful and i am proud of this man, but i am always interested in how many came before... the fact that this is the first time this has really happened (that we have heard of on the front page) is a sad state of affairs.

    the fact is we should have learned from vietnam and we didn't, this is OUR country and the government and all its actions belong to us.
    redvelvet1278
  • The manipulative recruiting methods used by the U.S. military need to be re-evaluated. Its targets are poor, underprivileged, minorities who are harassed from a very young age and pressured into signing a possible death sentence. Veterans who have served proudly should be allowed to choose what they put their lives on the line for. This war for a long time now has proven its own illegality. Congratulations to those proud patriots who are standing up for what we all know is the right thing.
    carligula
  • Soldiers walking off the battlefields in Europe also ended World War I.

    Bravo to this brave young man.

    Refusing to fight in an immoral, illegal occupation is the highest form of patriotism.

    Call on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to start acting for the good of the country and begin legislation to stop funding this illegal war and bring our troops home.

    ___________
    Click link to see video of Buffy Ste. Marie signing and talking about the inspiration and writing of her powerful ballad, "Universal Soldier".
    TouchArt
  • Have soldiers ever walked off at the beginning of a war?

    If in every war soldiers have walked off towards the end or after some time after the war started, what does that say about war?

    Yes, carligula, it's called the Poor Man's Draft.

    I don't think there is such thing as a legal war. It's just war. Perhaps legal relative to one side.
    telekinesis
  • kudos to this young man and the countless others who have stepped forward to discount this illegal war...this is the biggest step in forcing congress's hand, the very men and women fighting for our country telling them the real story. now it's up to the citizens to get behind these brave persons and make sure their sacrifices are for not.
    JCunliffe
  • If only everyone spoke their mind like he did, but I'm glad he did. Too bad shit like this doesn't get televised so that all the fat pigs sitting at home could hear.
    cerealforeal
  • not that we ever want to consider war a valid option but there still has to be guidelines set to ensure people "play fairly". so in regards to whether or not war can be viewed as legal or illegal, absolutely it can. international law, which we ourselves agreed to abide by, was broken on numerous occasions in both our invasion and occupation of iraq.
    JCunliffe
  • I saw and heard this extraordinary young man on Democracy Now this morning.

    His words speak truth to power.

    He talked about how he is staying in Washington, D.C. and talking to Congresmen and Senators to urge them to stop the illegal occupation of Iraq.

    We need more brave young men like Mattis Chiroux.
    __________
    Click link for a mother of 4's take on war.
    TouchArt
  • There is always big profit in war.

    The mistake is in not seeing that the goal of Bush/Cheney and the Neo-Cons is endless war so they and the 1.5% can profit off death, destruction and rebuilding.
    TouchArt
  • Constitution bless America!!!!!!!
    F7
    • F7
    • 3 months ago
  • "What does that say about war?"...A great question that should be asked until there is peace. Your question is more about the soul of man than the laws of the land. A valid and important question all the same, but the answer is based on individual faith and therefore taboo in larger circles of society today.

    Our government officials are commissioned to serve this country by upholding the very same constitutional rule of law that they suppress and subvert in order to accomplish their agenda of greed and control. It is indeed an illegal war.

    The answers lie with those who have gained the most from this illegal war.

    "A diplomat...is a person who can tell you to go to hell in a such a way that you actually look forward to the trip." -Caskie Stinnette
    sespian
  • to any of you who never served in the armed forces let me stress that when you are serving you are told that you are us military property and for all intents and purposes this is true. you have some rights and freedoms accorded you under military law (uniform code of military justice) but they are severely limited. you dress the same, party the same, and hold the same codes of honor and ethics. part of those you are taught is unquestioning obedience to orders and a faith that your superiors are doing the right thing. the moral thing. that it is hard but the difficulty sets you apart. you are a hero. you are expected to grumble etc. but you go along. for these heros to stand up and face being ostracized and worse at the hands of their fellow soldiers and officers, and hell even the average u.s citizen took a real act of courage and patriotism. and i for one offer them a debt of gratitude. they have put their country,constitution,and honor. above their own selves. as they swore to do. they have upheld their oath and shown great integrity under very difficult circumstances.
    somefamilylove
  • What a jerk. You join the military to serve not to make policy decisions. If you do not want to join, do not serve. The Armed Forces is a place where the people who volunteer to serve give up the right to say no.
    mjsmith11
  • a bunch of bitches, thats all those people are. you signed your rights away when you joined the military. if you were too dumb to think that through then you're going to jail for being an idiot. they don't pay you to think they pay you to fight and follow orders. waaaaaa i dont like war, waaaa i dont like bush, waaaaa waaa waaa, here's a quarter, call someone who cares. if the soldiers today had the mentality of the soldiers in ww2 this war would be done with already. the baby boomer generation of hippy whores bred a generation of babies and worthless humans and it pisses me off and this is another example of it

    what this really means is that out government has become to PC and our basic training officers aren't doing their jobs as effectively and they're not being allowed to do so because its not PC anymore to do things the right way

    ok, off soap box. deep breaths...end rant.
    diode
  • diode is right when you join the military you know the rules they explain them in depth and are not hidden at all. He signed up in a time of war and now is going against what he signed up for. No one made him sign up and since there is no draft he should be held accountable for his dumb ass actions.

    You pink diaper doper babies need to stop acting like bitches and start acting like men.
    clayjj05
  • a soldier can not execute the order if this goes against the constitution, against human rights ....

    If you order a soldier to fire on unarmed crowds, he must refuse ... and this happens in all civilians countries ...

    Salut et Fraternité
    F7
    • F7
    • 3 months ago
  • wow. utter wow. i can't believe i found someone else who agrees with me. on this website i thought i was a lone voice on way too many subjects. and by that i meant clayjj05
    diode
  • The president isn't fighting the war; the people are. If the people stop, the war stops.
    ipodrulz
  • you keep telling yourself that ipod
    clayjj05
  • All people must adhere to what they believe in or it will destroy the very part of themselves that keeps them who they really are. No one should lead a life separate within themselves. Although many do. When someone stands up for what they believe in, it is usually a situation of moral beliefs. Moral being that which goes against their very nature. I am sure that this young man and many others have thought this through. And I believe in the evidence of this war being fought for the few instead of this country. It is no easy thing to stand against the roar of the politics trying to turn this country to favor the occupation in Iraq. Hopefully, this will be another look at what the Bush/Cheney lies have led this country to war and lead to their trial.
    cibalin
  • i read the interview with him , where he admits he's never fired a round in combat , and served only a month in afghanistan as a journalist , and now he decides he doesn't want to go to Iraq . he seems to be just as aware as any critic that he could be called a coward . maybe he'd be a liability with a weapon in his hands anyhow , whose to say .
    he is a perfect example of why i support Blackwater , etc. . ideally , every soldier in uniform now should be asked "are you willing to fight ? " , and if they aren't , they should be honorably discharged , receive no benefits whatsoever , and the money which would have been due them should be used to hire more mercenaries .
    some people worry about a "private" military - what few seem to understand is that Blackwater consists almost entirely of ground troops - they don't have an air force , they don't have a navy , and they don't have the equipment required to take over "our" military if they ever got out of hand , nor would an Obama let them , right ?
    additionally , the questionable fashion in which Blackwater has been funded and governed so far is no more questionable than the way the military itself has been administered - i'd say less so .
    ( very random thoughts over a few beers )
    malathion
  • clay and diode, exactly which part of this illegal occupation are we supposed to believe in..? Because a soldier is supposed to be a tough guy, I guess he's supposed to be a dumbass too. Well, it looks like this soldier wised up, like a lot of truly brave and intelligent soldiers are beginning to do, lately. It takes more guts to stand up to the rabble in Washington than it does to go blindly into battle for the illegal whims of fools that would have us all kneeling before them if they could.

    F7 is correct, to abide by a strict code of moral ethics, a good soldier will not go blindly forth, killing the unarmed innocent, not to mention unarmed women and children, i.e. Blackwater...

    I hope this brave soldier's example will serve to let the world know that the majority of Americans aren't fooled by their 'fools for leaders'...Jackasses...
    PlatoTacius
  • Soldiers agree to fight.

    They don't agree to violate the U.S. Constitution and the Geneva Conventions.

    Human beings refuse to do what is immoral.

    Anyone who thinks that Blackwater and turning our national security over to private mercenaries is wise, might read about the Roman Empire and mercenaries.

    Anyone remember how the Americans beat the British who made the mistake of relying on Hessian mercenaries?
    TouchArt
  • sorry , but , as i mentioned concerning blackwater , and as you do concerning "mercenaries" during the roman empire , and hessians serving the brits ( who weren't actually mercenaries in the modern sense -nor would any roman "mercenaries" really qualify , for that matter ,but wiki them if you'd like ) , we're talking about (largely ) infantry , and ground ops - military operations are a bit more complex these days , a few hundred years later .
    as far as human beings refusing to do what is immoral is concerned , how i wish that were true , and this world had lived in complete harmony since day one - maybe we wouldn't need locks on doors , or anti-virus software , or any kind of police force , etc