S. Carolina to make "I Believe" license plates, endorsing religion

Separation of Church and Plate.

Get em ACLU

I don't think these plates will last long.

i don't think these plates are going to get past the ACLU

No violation of the First Amendment here. The state is not imposing this on anyone nor are they prohibiting anyone from obtaining one.
Funny, I see no where in the Bill of Rights, or the rest of the Constitution for that matter, where the words, "separation of church and state" appear. There is a way to amend the wording of the First Amendment to include this phrase but to grant Constitutional status to a letter from Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association will require more than wishful thinking of some peroples part.
The American Criminal Lawyers Union (ACLU) needs to go away. This is a group founded to promote socialism with communism as the goal and destruction of the United States as the medium. They are an enemy of this country.

This is absurd! And (while not surprising) the Faux News interviewer in that video is not only a joke but an insult to journalism.

i wonder if they will make i dont believe plates

http://lowcountry.humanists.net/IRWT.html

I dont see this as something bad...a little obnixious though, but not bad.

ACLU is a joke.

Let them have that on the plate. The plate is for the car not for the state. It's personalize. If you are going to be forced to have a stupid plate it should be to your liking no matter what is on it. It's an endorsement of you not the state.

I think it's a great idea - It will help me identify the people I want to avoid. I mean, would you want to be friends with someone who'd put that that on their license plate?

I think it is nice that they are willing to make that available to people who want one. Wish I could get one in Cali. As for it violating the establishment clause, it doesn't for all those howling about it, read a damn book that is factual, not based on opinion! Or better yet read the US Supreme Court Cases that resulted in the "high wall of separation" that doesn't pertain to a personalized plate. It is pretty pathetic that if you are Christian you are being persecuted in this country! You can get a plate that says I don't believe, but the ACLU is wasting time and money trying to stop a f*%king license plate? Come on can't they come up with anything better to do than bother people who want personalized tags? If that is the biggest injustice they are fighting than someone needs to fire whoever is in charge!

George Bush is a Christian, another dumb idea.

It is a plate on YOUR car. This is not in anyway forced on anyone, if you don't want it so be it. Also when you say something like those are the people I want to avoid that is rude and you are not helping as much as a judging Christian is. That is so ridiculous dude. That just tells me Christians Hate and People who are not Christians do the same. So I have to avoid both right?

I see nothing wrong with this unless this becomes the mandatory license plate for all South Carolina vehicles. As long as it's a matter of choice, there's really no reason to complain.

I'm an agnostic, but I think this plate isn't violating any crime, and is just letting Christians express their belief.

Good slogan...but would have been better with a picture of Obama or his new seal than a religious symbol!

I watched the yahoo video link and that shouldn't guy shouldn't be repersenting any group of citizens. When do hear a Christan trying to say that other religions are offended? If we (I'm none religious) are offended, you think we would have spoken sooner. I personaly think its just another thing that religion gets for them and fighting over it again. I swear if this keeps going on, Christanity is going to colapse within itself for multiple reasons.

At least it will be easier to identify the idiots. Of coarse this is highly illegal.

I don't see the big deal. They have to pay extra just like any other novely plate, what's the difference between this and any sports team? Anyway, I think thoses ar already availibe in some states, and have been for a while.

Yeah sure, its just a license plate today, another "little" elementary school tomorrow, another thing, and another, until ONE religion and ONE lousy culture puts its fucking stamp on everything, and no one else can breathe. Oh, wait, that's already happened in the last several thousand years, I forgot, I can't BREATHE.

First off, who the hell still goes on Faux? They've lost all credibility.

Even as a strong atheist I have little problem with them stamping their beliefs on their cars. First off, states rights, second, they aren't going to affect anyone else with this. As someone else pointed out (I think) it's the same as "in god we trust" on the indiana license plates. there are over 80 plates in SC, When I get a new car I'm going to get a blueridge license plate for instance.

i guess i just think tolerance should be practiced by both sides and that people are overreacting

burn it, That's a witch!

Here in Indiana the Republican's made a plate that stated "In God we trust". Since this is a government slogan (unfortunately), it would be ok. The problem is they removed the normal fee you have to pay for all other specialty plates. The lawsuit is still to be ruled on. Thank you ACLU for being there to protect the rights of those of us who do not have millions of dollars to do it ourselves.

These plates in South Carlina are a blatant violation of the 1st Amendment. I am a Christian too, the point is not to "persecute" Christians, it is to make sure Christianity is not established as the religion of the country. No part of government may make any law that promotes Christianity over other religions. For this to be legal there would have to be a plate for all other religions, Muslims, Hindus, Buhdist, ect.

You right wingers get so worked up you forget to use your God given brains. "read a book"? Perhaps you should start understanding the books you read. The rulings on personalized plates do not pertain to these plates. These are not personalized plates, they are specialty plates. Personalized plates are the slogans you see people come up with as part of the plate number. These are developed by individuals. The South Carolina plates are actual specialty plates produced by the state and they certainly establish Christianity over other religions.

Personally, I don't want government telling me anything about my religion, or anything else involving my faith. That's the point of Barry Lynn and his group.

Err... I am having trouble seeing what the big deal is. As long as these license plates aren't being forced on anyone, then have fun with that "I believe" license plate. But, if it turns out that I am being force to sport that license plate on my car, then... I'm gonna have to raise some hell.

They should make "I don't believe" plates for Atheists! I would buy one, only I'm from Oregon.

They should also make an "I don't believe" plate or a "Darwin was right" plate. Maybe have an "I believe" plate, but without a cross, because I believe, but i believe in buddha, not the church.

Those CRAZY darn false Christians. Again, false Christian people in the government are advertising religion to get more votes. Legally, they can probably do it, but again it is just for getting votes. And the REALLY SAD thing is that people fall for it (note it is election season). If anyone gets into a conversation over christian symbols on cars and where-ever, let them know the following:
• Matthew 23:28...outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
• Matthew 6:5,6 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray... to be seen by men. ...But when you pray, go into your room, close the door...
Jesus actually condemns advertising ones-self as a good christian (to be seen of men) for political gain. People fall for it, because they don't study their religion. Also, I think the NT also says not to have graven images or idols. (1Cor.12:2)
I think I need to write book.

Here's another big question:
Why do they constantly need to tell us that they believe?

Non-believers actually don't care.
We don't give a ratts-azz if they believe.

This false advertising to re-assure themselves, just turns non-believers off.

There is nothing wrong with this. Once again the tolerant people on this site are showing their intolerance to anything not in the intrest of their leftist views. In dallas they have dallas stars license plates why not let the idiots have their own plate how at all does it effect any of you. Especially since most of you seem to be from the left coast????

There is something wrong with it. It is simple - the constitution doesn't ban Dallas Stars, it does ban establishing a religion. That isn't intolerance it is protecting all religion by making sure no one religion is endorsed. How is that intolerant?

Again, this is not left vs. right. I wish people could put down the politics and talk about issues.

The issue is that this particular state run organization is making a product that will promote only one group, while leaving others asking "Where's my faith based plate?"

I personally don't care that there's a cross on it. There are those who would argue that's offensive. I don't buy that, but I see their point.

But it's NOT left vs. right, it's control. The fact that those in control happen to be Christian, means they are flexing their Christian muscle. It's more sad than anything

I've spoken with lots of people who are over the top about their beliefs. Christians happen to have some of those.. so are some vegetarians... all skin colors etc etc. A closed mind can be found all forms and beliefs.

As long as they (organization producing the plates) gives time for those who want to have their own faith based plate equal time to create their own, then their's no issue.

If they don't, then they are in fact limiting the rights, of a group, by not ALLOWING them to express themselves. This has nothing to do with left wing or right wing, this is about power.

This is about freedom of speech Christians have that right, some are misguided, some are wonderful human beings.

But IF you LIMIT who can express themselves. That's another matter.

I'm sure no Christian thinking government office would take away the rights of another. I mean really... what would Jesus do?

yah this is bullshit why is it only for christianity? why not hindu or buddist?

This IS a big deal, and the big deal is this:

They're using state funds, and state workers, and state equipment and materials, to produce something that promotes a certain religious belief. That is clearly against the first amendment.

The major problem is that those that want to participate in their religious beleifs seem to (know) that everyone must beleive as they do.
Everyone thinks that all of the Crusades where in the mideast but it actualy started with the elimination of Catharism in France and Spain. It is where the saying kill them all, let god sort them out came from. This is the best reason for seperating Church and state that I can think of, besides the spanish inquesition and northern Irland.

You gotta love Faux News
I wonder if Utah has a Mormon license plate.
And if so, would Faux News be defending that like they did South Carolina?

What the fuck? You should be aloud to have whatever license plate you want. God damn those fucking liberal atheist.