Obama says NO and YES to same-sex marriage depending who he talks to !!!

Wow, I'm pretty surprised to see this is his point of view on the subject.

I guess you can't have it all. I'll still support him, but hopefully this is just campaign trail pandering to the moderate constituents and he won't actively support constitutional amendments to prevent same sex marriages...

If he really thinks that Marriage is between a man and a woman as a real core value of our society, then a constitutional amendment should not be a problem.

If he is just pandering with the sanctity of marriage for campaign purpose, what credibility will he have in the future ?

If it is not true and Gay marriage can be called civil union, so what is so important for Gays to redefine marriage and destabilise this essential institution for the great majority of Americans.

In California where the domestic partners law give everything a marriage does, they sued and got 4 judges to say that marriage as it is inconstitutional.

Jonathan, you just stated the point, I have just made for weeks.

Obama is a dick. Vote Nader.

Still, Obama hasn't opposed the California legalization of same gender marriages. And, of the candidates in the race this election cycle, Obama is greatest friend to the GLBT community in the race, mainly for his civil and human rights stances. So, screw this crap. Gays looking for a reason to support McCain can surely come up with better than this foolishness. Obama ought not have to give up being heterosexual man married to a woman to support the gay community. He can disagree with gay marriage without bigoted gays scrutinizing his support of the gay community.

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Just because he's opposed to marriage which is by definition a religious ceremony doesn't mean he doesn't support civil unionships. I dont care what you call it just make sure i can speak for my husband if he can't make his own decisions or make it easier to adopt a child

OK TCS2688,

Can you tell the Judges in California to reverse their decision and avoid a cutural war in this country over marriage ?

California domestic partners laws offers all these benefits

Where you going to go to get your soldiers for your war soleil? Bigots R Us?

Why does obama keep fucking up?!

EDIT: This can't be true. All other research points to him being pro-gay.

http://209.85.215.104/search?q=cache:9etDVvua6MEJ:lesbi...

Check and see what his position actually is.

good for Barack. the democratic party needs to stop alienating the lunch-pail blue collar democrats by being so pro gay marriage and pro abortion. If they'd done that years ago, they would never lose an election. The democratic party has been driving away its base of blue collar working class people for decades by not distancing themselves from this crap. thank god obama finally gets it.

If Obama doenst appear religious enough, he will lose the religious states, where McCain rules.

If you have been following him through this years, you will understand this is a game he must win.

There are some serious detriments to our political system and as straight forward or outside the box either McCain or Obama appear to be they are still a part of the system.

I highly doubt either candidate really cares either way about same sex marriage. I bet McCain really doesn't even care about abortion. Unfortunately the general public needs to be coddled and can't handle the truth of the matter. So the candidates that wish to be successful waste galactic amounts of time dancing in the heads of pins.

I'm liking him less every day.

Equal civil, and human rights for all. These are being dragged out again as wedge issues. Complete waste of time when the world is such a mess and on the brink of yet another war.

the whole "between a man and a woman" thing annoys me. love is love regardless of gender.

When Obama quotes Jesus, he is really selective.

Of course Jesus would not want someone sick in an hospital being deprived of visitor.

Would Jesus support unatural sexual relationship. He would punch you right to the ground. (with love )

'Mr. Obama, don't use Jesus selectively !!!.

One day, you can have this discussion with Jesus directly.

At that time, what will you say ?

During his interview on Logo, Obama was very weak in defense of marriage between one man and one woman.

Basically, it is just a ploy to be elected.

Every time, I try to believe in him, he disappoints me again.

If he is elected, he will be worse than Jimmy Carter.

His pragmatism of convenience will bring this country to such a low level and will hurt African Americans in the long run

Soleil10 People like you scare me

"If elected, he will hurt African Americans deeply."

This statement alone made me have to give a thumbs down to this article.

Uhm, sorry, but did anyone actually read what it says?

Twice he says he's against gay marriage. He opposes it and he thinks it should just be between a man and a woman. I disagree, but get your facts straight, mmmkay?

Ugh. Didnt we learn anything from 2004 people? The lesser of two evils is no joke. Who else are you going to vote for? Or are we going to take the pompous liberal stance that EIGHTY THREE PERCENT of people between 18 and 24 did then, and snub our noses and walk away from the voting booths and let a flood of republicans take it because we cant be bothered to show up???
What Obama says in the Logo video is smart. He is aware of the fact that it's a super tough issue, and he's not trying to take any side too heavily so that he actually stands a chance of getting elected. People keep wanting him to martyr himself to some underdog cause, but I cant believe those people are limited enough to not see that that would immediately decapitate his chances at general election.
Also, what he's saying in the video is right on: let's get all the things that 'marriage' mean, LEGALLY, not symbolically, taken care of so gays can have all the same benefits and rights, and who gives a fuck what we call it.
Since when is this group of supposedly forward thinking, open minded people so limited by a death grip on traditional ideals?

The title tells a lie. that the only two choices at yes or no.

Obama has chosen to support it being legal,but does not violate a separation between church and state. This distances him from creating a theocracy, and I applaud him on that.

It's him or McCain.
America doesn't need another republican president, honestly.

The only problem is if Obama doesn't get his act together, he's going to ruin the upcoming election for himself.

I miss Hillary.

Marriage is a human right that should not be denied to anyone.

Same-sex marriage is a civil rights issue.

Same sex unions are not marriage. It is something else

You cant make a lie a truth. It does not matter how many times you say it.

People should keep in mind that soleil10 is a bigot and that his assessment of Obama and his positions should not be taken seriously.

Obama hasn't changed his position on gay marriage. He has basically supported the separate but equal idea for civil unions, but opposes constitutional amendments, federal or state, that are designed to discriminate against homosexuals. He basically won't take the political risk of supporting gay marriage, but he won't intervene in states that decide to allow it or appoint bigoted judges like McCain would, who would undermine states rights on the matter.