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Two state solution supported by 48% of Palestinians and majority of Israelis


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I am personally trying to get a grasp on this problem. I am not educated in the subject and have only read a few books on it. I wish there could be a solution to make everyone happy and stop the killing and hate.

The situation looks to me as the same as North America which was snatched from the Native Americans. Both are tragedies. We need to be realistic and understand that Americans are not going to leave now and all go back to their countries to undo the damage ever. There are the vast majority of people who would never have been the aggressors of the land and think that it is a great shame of US and Canadian history. It is not taught in US schools. I feel the pain of these native people when I walk in the woods over their footsteps. I imagine what their lives were like and how they lived, laughed and loved in these same places we are living. My family came to Castle Island in Boston by ship and train, fleeing inhuman persecution in Slavuta, Russia and in poverty around 1904. We did not act in that part of American history but we share some guilt living in our homes on this land.

I wish I knew more about the Israeli situation but I am trying to study it as best as I can without the misinformation and exaggeration put out on all sides. I am beginning my study here on Wiki, as a place to begin.

We can all feel and see that the Palestinian people are enduring great persecution. We would like to be able to find a compromise. There is a road but we need to find it. Our government is doing everything it can to promote war and distrust because it is profitable. This is good business but bad for human kind and the Earth.

The problem in Israel is also a great tragedy for both sides. As a person who happens to have Jewish heritage I am aware of the need for a homeland, for our basic survival. My family has endured persecution..I know that there a few people who think I should not be able to voice that . They can go get...... a life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_movement#Israel

This is the link to Peace movement there...I am not saying they are good or bad but here is another perspective I will try to educate myself.
CarolynGillis

20 responses // Two state solution supported by 48% of Palestinians and majority of Israelis

  • One simple solution without killing.
    I can't tell the difference between the Palestinian and Israelis They are all beautiful.
    Can you?

    Why can't this be a solution. It needs financing big time.
    An ounce of prevention is worth a ton of cure.
    How about diverting some military funding away from your blood thirsty friends Bush?
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    CarolynGillis
  • sound's good,but even Jesus knows it will never Workout.
    Blackfoot777
  • coexistence, imagine that... :)
    jade_azul16
  • you have to think though, out of that 52% that don't agree some of them are gonna be militantly against this idea. and out of the minority of Israelis you'll get the same.
    This conflict has been going on for so long I don't see a way out.
    Sorry to be so pessimistic.
    Ben_Traffic_UK
  • A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
    Lao-tzu, The Way of Lao-tzu
    Chinese philosopher (604 BC - 531 BC)
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    CarolynGillis
  • Sounds hopeful to me. I wish people would overcome hatred. The young people will if allowed.
  • The best we can all do is that first single step of our thousand mile journey. I must tell myself this everyday or I will simply go insane from all the conflict and injustice in this world. Change the Dream. We can do better. One Giant Leap.
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    twodee
  • I have had some tough things to say about this situation in the past. At times I just step back and try not interfere. An imbalance exist! That imbalance is me relatively safe here in the states( with my opinions ) and the people their fearing mortar attacks and/or humiliation at a check point. I wish for peace for all involved, including me.
    Every living being deserves respect!
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    macdontcare
  • The People want Peace Now.
    TouchArt
  • Thanks, Carolyn, for the credit.

    Here's the link to the story on Hand-in-Hand k-12 schools for Palestinian and Israeli children for those that have not yet seen it.

    Thanks for all the good work you do, on current.tv and in life.
    Peace,
    Charleen Touchette
    TouchArt
    TouchArt
  • Personally I can think of about 1000 places I'd rather live. If these two countries were squabbling over Hawaii or Australia that would be understandable: the beauty and the climate, if they were trying to decide who owned the rights to land filled with oil or diamonds that too would be understandable... but these people are killing generation after generation of each others families for a chunk a useless desert?!?!?!? I don't get it. Can someone explain it to me, I guess I'm just a little thick some times.
    colmor
  • When your family is thrown out of other lands at other people's whims, enslaved, ridiculed, scapegoated and killed, even a useless piece of desert looks good...I guess that's it.
    CarolynGillis
  • merkaba
  • "coexistence, imagine that... :)"

    Reminds me of a bumpter sticker.

    Imagine that, indeed. Here's hoping.
    Amber_LaStrega
  • The Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against:
    “Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
    “We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
    “When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.
    This declaration by a true "Palestinian" should have some significance for a sincerely neutral observer. Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as "Jordanians"), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians - something they did not know the day before. Of course, these people having a new identity had to build themselves a history, namely, had to steal some others' history, and the only way that the victims of the theft would not complain is if those victims do no longer exist. Therefore, the Palestinian leaders claimed two contradictory lineages from ancient peoples that inhabited in the Land of Israel: the Canaanites and the Philistines.
    kuffar
  • An Arab writer and journalist declared:
    "There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today... No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough".
    - Joseph Farah, "Myths of the Middle East" -
    Let us hear what other Arabs have said:
    "There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
    - Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

    "There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
    - Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

    "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
    - Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

    Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:
    "The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".
    The preceding declarations by Arab politicians have been done before 1967, as they had not the slightest knowledge of the existence of any Palestinian people. How and when did they change their mind and decided that such people existed? When the State of Israel was reborn in 1948 c.e., the "Palestinians" did not exist yet, the Arabs had still not discovered that "ancient" people. They were too busy with the purpose of annihilating the new Sovereign State and did not intend to create any Palestinian entity, but only to distribute the land among the already existing Arab states. They were defeated. They attempted again to destroy Israel in 1967, and were humiliated in only six days, in which they lost the lands that they had usurped in 1948. In those 19 years of Arab occupation of Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip, neither Jordan nor Egypt suggested to create a "Palestinian" state, since the still non-existing Palestinians would have never claimed their alleged right to have their own state... Paradoxically, during the British Mandate, it was not any Arab group but the Jews that were known as "Palestinians"!
    What other Arabs declared after the Six-Day War:
    "There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
    - Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -
    kuffar

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