Judge orders YouTube to give all user histories to Viacom
Viacom wants the data to prove that infringing material is more popular than user-created videos, which could be used to increase Google's liability if it is found guilty of contributory infringement.
Viacom filed suit against Google in March 2007, seeking more than $1 billion in damages for allowing users to upload clips of Viacom's copyright material. Google argues that the law provides a safe harbor for online services so long as they comply with copyright takedown requests.
Although Google argued that turning over the data would invade its users' privacy, the judge's ruling (.pdf) described that argument as "speculative" and ordered Google to turn over the logs on a set of four tera-byte hard drives.
The judge also turned Google's own defense of its data retention policies -- that IP addresses of computers aren't personally revealing in and of themselves, against it to justify the log dump.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation has already reacted, calling the order a violation of the Video Privacy Protection act that "threatens to expose deeply private information."
The order also requires Google to turn over copies of all videos that it has taken down for any reason.
Viacom also requested YouTube's source code, the code for identifying repeat copyright infringement uploads, copies of all videos marked private, and Google's advertising database schema.
Those requests were denied in whole, except that Google will have to turn over data about how often each private video has been watched and by how many persons.
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- J_Jammer
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ohohoh now imma be on sum terrorist list 4 sure, god damn the day i became a registered youtube user, hehehe
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I wonder what they'll think of my viewing list, lol.
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- shroomfairy
- 1 year ago
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How do I change my IP address?
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Everyone, get out of youtube as you still can! If we don't, they think that terrorist watch Weezer videos all day.
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This seems like real bad justice. As this kind of forced information sharing may give a more detailed picture of your and my actions to big corporations and big brother, us little guys will suffer.
I'm wondering if the ACLU might be interested in this, although I'm sure that Thomas Jefferson would never have dreamed of the internet.
It seems weird that I might ever consider donating to a legal defense fund for Google, considering the big $$$$ they control.
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I have to wonder...why does Google track and keep all that info anyway? I guess it's valuable information that perhaps they can use to attract advertisers...but right now, it seems like a smarter move to stop tracking all that stuff.
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This is a pretty crazy ruling..will be interesting to see how it all plays out
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I think it is amazing that our courts order Google to help them violate our right to privacy! Why does Vaicom need to access a YouTube's user's IP address?
The only reason I can think of how and why this could be of use in a lawsuit against Google, is because Viacom might want to generate lawsuits against users who have watched or uploaded copy written TV material to YouTube.
I hope that this act by Viacom results in the whole matter being taken to the Supreme Court.
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I think it's going to all play out badly.
The day that phone companies started offering people unlimited access to facebook on their mobile phones is the day that the internet became like a cable TV subscription.
Maybe our days enjoying an unregulated information free for all are coming to an end. That is surely a bad thing?
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- phillyharper
- 1 year ago
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Forget about your ip address! That it is a joke as they can not trace it unless you have a server with a permanent ip. Most people run on dynamic connections. Trying to trace an ip address from someone on a dynamic connection is the same as trying to find a sprinkle of sand in the desert. They might just trace you by looking in your account if you have a real name there.
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why do they need ip addresses? you can obviously tell which videos are most viewed and popular without giving all that information. this is bull shit!
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- RoBot_rOcKer
- 1 year ago
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I would like to see what The Daily Show says about this. They are owned by viacom.
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Nice find J jammer. Keep up the good work.
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I wonder if this sets some dangerous precedent. And I also wonder if Google will appeal.
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I use to crack password protected websites so I can tell you from experience that protecting your ip address can be very important. When someone cracks a website they hid behind the ip address of another person. You can also use those addresses to surf the web and look up whatever sick crap tickles your fancy. So this is what I would suggest.
First download Tor. This program works like a mini internet within the internet. Instead of taking a direct route to your destination, like a webpage, your data packet randomly hops around a series of channels. This makes it very hard for someone to tell what you are looking at.
The second thing I would download is Privoxy. This program is also free and it rocks. With it you can block your ip address from websites like Youtube. As an added bonus it blocks banners and ads so that when you surf your computer runs faster because it is not processing unnecessary junk.
Tor website http://www.torproject.org/
Privoxy website http://sourceforge.net/projects/ijbswa
And this one will show you how to get them to work together http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Anonymity_with_Tor_and_Privoxy
Last thing I would suggest is download Acidmax, an IRC program. Get the server address from Tor and connect to their chat room. There are always people online 24/7 that are willing to offer advice on how to tweak Tor and Privoxy. Plus it’s easier for someone to walk you through installation via a chat room then reading an instruction manual.
Once you get everything installed both programs run like a dream. With one click you can turn them on or off at whim. So when I surf current I usually have it off but when I fire up bit torrent I turn it on so I don't have to worry about the feds busting down my door.
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Welcome to the New World Order. A Judge is now infringing on our privacy. This is horrible. But what are we gonna do about it? Complain on a forum-based website, or are we actually going to set out and write the Supreme Courts, OUR elected officials? Probably not. And that is the sad truth.
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- Midnight_DevilX
- 1 year ago
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how do people expect to have privacy on the internet. everyone should know the internet is not secure. everything you click is recorded and can be tracked. i believe the internet is very flawed but its a great social network
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Great now Viacom knows my name and IP. Corporations really are evil, and to me they have alterior motives.
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- FallenMorgan
- 1 year ago
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Welcome to the New World Order!
Viacom is a strong company, hell just google what thier assests are. This is going to be a long battle for Google -
The court’s order grants Viacom's request and erroneously ignores the protections of the federal Video Privacy Protection Act (VPPA), and threatens to expose deeply private information about what videos are watched by YouTube users. The VPPA passed after a newspaper disclosed Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork's video rental records. As Congress recognized, your selection of videos to watch is deeply personal and deserves the strongest protection.
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Privacy on the internet has been gone for quite some time.
Viacom is doing the same thing the records company did. Find any and every person that downloaded a song and sue them.
I sincerely hope it comes back and bites Viacom in the ass the way it did the record companies.
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Tell Viacom how you feel about them violating your privacy!
Viacom Inc.
1515 Broadway
New York, New York 10036
(212) 258-6000or here is a contact in their legal department. If they have our info, why not have theirs?
Michael D. Fricklas
Firm: Viacom Inc.
Address: Corporate Law Department
1515 Broadway
New York, NY 10036-8901
Phone: (212) 258-6070
Fax: (212) 258-6996
E-mail: Contact Us
Web site: http://www.viacom.comDon't feel bad about contacting him. According to Business Week he makes $2,809,875 yearly.
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/person.asp?personId=312...Or Contact Viacom CEO and majority share owner Sumner Redstone at the address above.
Sumner's salary in 2005 was $19.1 Million according to Forbes.
And finally, Phillppe Dauman, CEO and President, and very close friends with Sumner. His business address is the Viacom address above. His home address according to www.whitepages.com is:
Philippe P & Deborah R Dauman
121 E 65th St
New York, NY 10065-7006
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Ew, that's so creepy.
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boycott viacom and everything they own
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my first thought after reading this was that viacom was just going to see a bunch of custom guitar hero video on my list. maybe some south park too.
then i thought, oh crap, now that i think about it, there is some stuff on there i wouldn't want people to know about.
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- sephy32891
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