Women who don't submit to husbands are to blame for domestic violence, says Baptist scholar
Bruce Ware, professor of Christian theology at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, said women desire to have their own way instead of submitting to their husbands because of sin.
"And husbands on their parts, because they're sinners, now respond to that threat to their authority either by being abusive, which is of course one of the ways men can respond when their authority is challenged--or, more commonly, to become passive, acquiescent, and simply not asserting the leadership they ought to as men in their homes and in churches," Ware said from the pulpit of Denton Bible Church in Denton, Texas.
Ware said God created men and women equally in God's image but for different roles.
"He has primary responsibility for the work and the labor and the toil that will provide for the family, that will sustain their family," he said. "He's the one in charge of leadership in the family, and that will become difficult, because of sin."
"...A woman will demonstrate that she is in fact a Christian, that she has submitted to God's ways by affirming and embracing her God-designed identity as--for the most part, generally this is true--as wife and mother, rather than chafing against it, rather than bucking against it, rather than wanting to be a man, wanting to be in a man's position, wanting to teach and exercise authority over men,"
Oh. My. God. (Or not, as the case may be). Like we needed any more reasons to scorn and revile southern American right-wing religious types. Why doesn't this stuff make the headlines more often? How can Christians tell Muslims (and they do, often) that some elements of Islam treat women unfairly? Are enough loons out there taking this crap seriously for it to be a serious social and political issue?
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- LindseyIndigo
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this is making me sick
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- schemashatter
- 1 year ago
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jus becuz u don't listen to ur husband doesn't mean u deserve a beat down! sure the Bible preaches obeying one's husband and i agree but no one deserves to be hit on. that "scholar" is so wrong..........God doesn't promote nor approve of beating one's wife.
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- GoneGlobal09
- 1 year ago
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this is the reason why american christianity is such a danger, both to america and the world. it's warped logic is just so baffling yet so powerful to the ignorant.
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It's disturbing that views like this still exist in modern society.
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Ok... so question.
What happens if two men are both trying to "guide" their family and they are in opposition of each other. Does this mean it is ok that they abuse or attack one another because it is their Christian duty? I would love to see somebody argue this as a defense in a battery case.
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- clarity_kat
- 1 year ago
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I wonder...how many wives went home that afternoon and got their asses beat in the name of the Lord?
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are you saying he justified violence to another human being because "their husband's God-given authority"? I'm a bit chauvinists, but come on, even i think thats stupid and crossed a line.
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- StuArt_Gould
- 1 year ago
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now go wash my clothes.
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- StuArt_Gould
- 1 year ago
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this is ridiculous!!
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- worldofinsanity
- 1 year ago
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just goes to show that even scholars can be complete idiots.
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People are free. They have a brain and in Genesis it states God created men and women equally. That is EQUAL not subservient or dominant etc.. but equal with equal rights to determine the shape of their own lives.
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- balderdashandpiffle
- 1 year ago
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Don't get married!
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whoever the baptist scholar that said that does not represent Christianity or Baptist's for that matter, Certainly by all means rip on the guy who said this but please don't make him the representative of God, the bible, or Christianity. This guy represents Evil
1 day later -- I WAS TRICKED, THIS GUY DIDN"T SAY THIS< did you listen to the sermon? you will find it says husbands do this "because they are sinners" I can understand the outrage if it were true, but it's unfair and what's being said on the post are botched because it's not true. I called this guy evil because I thought it was true. http://feeds.feedburner.com/dbc_recent_sermons
please take this off, and request it comes off the tv
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- shadowtrekker
- 1 year ago
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The Bible says that husbands should love their wives like Christ loved the church. I don't see how that leaves any room for abuse.
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come on out of the closet all you self loathing kentucky baptists , and bend over - you know you want it .
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It doesn't make headlines more often for the same reason that when a husband assaults his wife, it's not called "assault" it's called "domestic violence."
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A very good friend of mine was beat beyond recognition and then shot in the chest. According to what these people are saying, what her soon-to-be-X-husband did to her was justified.
I wish people would wake up and recognize the difference between a relationship with God and Church "doctrine". I'm sure that Jesus Christ would never have wanted a fist to be raised against any woman, whether she had sinned or not.
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You'd think they'd have bigger things to worry about than justifying spousal abuse.
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- AceHardchester
- 1 year ago
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how is god an excuse for your abuse problems?
why do people follow so blindly these leaders that preach this type of horse shit?
thank goodness i'm a yankee ;)-
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- samonster34
- 1 year ago
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The Catholic Church said pretty much the same thing for years (has it changed?)...many, many women went to priests for counseling on domestic abuse and were told it was their duty to stay and take it. So what amounts to evil anyway?
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The good Ole South, in all it's pride, and joy
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hhahahahaha.... STAY DOWN WOMAN.....
i would expect my wife to support me on things.. not subject to the whims of my mind...... i mean.. relegions can take care of that
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I say this "scholar" deserves some abuse himself.
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- Dmitri_Molotov
- 1 year ago
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if the woman don't submit to their husbands they're the blame for domestic violence? what type of mess is that and that's one of the craziest stuff i have ever heard no woman should not except domestic violence
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More and more I am thinking religion is for the uneducated man...
God makes this okay, god makes that okay, stop using your freaking faith as an excuse.
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- Bigdog_mike
- 1 year ago
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