Students in Minnesota will have their rights violated this fall
- added July 16, 2008
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Drug dogs will greet students as they return from summer break to the four high schools in the Osseo school district. Nothing has sparked these random searches, but school officials say that they are strictly for prevention.
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Talk about an invasion of privacy! How much does this cost taxpayers? People want to get high. We keep spending billions on the "war on drugs" and everyone knows it's a farse. The sooner we can accept this well known fact, the sooner we can fill our many prisons with REAL criminals. Rapests, murderers, treasonist government officials, ya know.
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I don't know the area first hand, is their proven drug use there? They are just assuming that everyone is using or what? How do the parents feel about this? If I was a teen attending the school it would tick me off..
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this isnt an invasion of privacy u idiots... its prevention of drugs.... people whine about better drug control and when the authoriities make a move, u wave "invasion of privacy" card....
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Those dogs must be impeached!
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This is completely absurd. It's not going to do anything but waste everyone's time.
Just one more invasion of rights justified by bullshit. You can get away with anything in this country. -
Guess I'll have to do my drugs before I get to school.
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Simple, don't bring your drugs to school. Why waste time and effort educating kids who are only at school to get high? Go to class and pay attention, then do your drugs at home.
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- piratazephyri
- 2 months ago
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Why don't these cops quit busting kids with weed and start using their drug dogs for some stuff that's actually a danger to public safety, like meth or crack.
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- Dmitri_Molotov
- 2 months ago
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This title is wrong.
Students will not 'have their rights violated', because they never had any. No one has any 4th amendment rights in a public school.-
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- flyingkick
- 2 months ago
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As much as I hate to say it, flyingkick is right. It's just like in the corporate world. If you are on their property, and stash your stuff in their lockers. And park your car in their parking lot. They have all the control. Because you are using all their facilities, you are subject to their rules and regulations.
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I have had experiences in osseo, it is a big drug town in minnesota almost as big as jordan. the drug of choice there is meth. We had drug dogs in lakeville come to the school, everybody had weed on them but the dog didn't bark. I applaud the police until the drug dog severs or severely damages somebody's child's arm or leg.
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We had these at when I was in High School ('03 H.S. Alum). We were locked inside of our classrooms and no one could leave until the officers and drug dogs did their job. Then we had to step over feces the dogs left in the hallways on our way to our next class. I guess the officers didn't feel obligated to clean up after them.
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- bishopobispo
- 2 months ago
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They are not invading privacy. Dogs sniff. If they find something they open the locker. If you are expecting to have privacy at school you must be joking. There is no such thing at a school nor no such law.
Keep your stuff at home and cry about doing something illegal on someone else's shoulder. I don't see an issue here. -
If this happens off of school property, it's a rights violation.
But, if it happens on school property it's perfectly legal. flyingkick is absolutely right.
Kids, just do what piratazephyrl said. -
Why cops are being taken away from patrolling the streets preventing real crime is beyond me. Yeah some drugs get into schools, mostly weed usually, but does this really warrant an excessive waste of taxpayer money on this failing War on Drugs?
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- warhawk187
- 2 months ago
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It kills me that the so-called War on Drugs is going worse than the so-called War on Terror.
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- bobdobalina
- 2 months ago
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when this happened to my school in 04, i had weed in my car and smoked on the way to school with my g/f that morning. the drug dogs didn't make a significant find at all. instead they took hemp tanning lotion from a bunch of honor students and basically wasted time. i know this because i was thinking and alot of other people had mentioned to me, "i hope they dont check my car." and they didn't, they didnt find any drugs that i knew were there.
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I can't begin to understand why more and more schools are subjecting thier students to this "Scare Tactic." I graduated from a blue ribbon school in 2002 and the school had been using that same action to "scare" the students from binging drugs to school. The best part was, that, everybody still brought them in. a few students would get caught 4 times a year and that was it. What a waste of tax dollars. This was out of 2500 kids. If there is a war on drugs. Try searching the teachers lot! We'll see what comes up.
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- D_ruthless
- 2 months ago
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what a stupid waste of time and money. at my school they did this a few times and never found anything. they kept us in the auditorium for up to 30 minutes, it totally threw the day off and then everyone was too excited to learn. also, isn't alcohol more of a problem to learning? I know we had problems with students getting drunk at school, the dogs couldn't catch them and neither could the teachers unless they got totally tore up. (one kid puked in the middle of math class) But this was the kind of school parents pay good money for, so I had no privacy expectation to begin with.
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- spoonieday
- 2 months ago
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Amendment IV of the Federal Constitution - "The Right to Privacy"
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Minnesota State ONLY: Minnesota State vs Fort, May 1, 2003.
Minnesota Supreme Court rules that "consent searches" during traffic stops are unconstitutional because they violate the requirement that searches be reasonable. Searches without reasonable, articulable suspicion of criminal activity are banned.
MINNESOTA v. DICKERSON (508 U.S. 366) : June 7, 1993 (7-2)
A key decision disallowing weapons searches resulting in finding non-weapon contraband. A man stopped for being in a suspicious area is given a "Terry Patdown" (weapons search) and found to have some small thing in his pocket, which the policeman removed and found to be a crack-rock. The Supreme Court ruled that the in order to determine whether the item was crack or not required a further, unwarranted search and was not acceptable by 4th Amendment standards.-
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- Psychedelic
- 2 months ago
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The U.S. Supreme Court decided November 28, 2000 that an Indianapolis Police practice of using roadblocks to check cars for illegal drugs using drug-sniffing dogs violated the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches. Their decision is an excellent small victory for those who believe the War on Drugs has been used to justify a chilling erosion of rights in the United States over the last 30 years.
In a 6 to 3 ruling, with the arch-conservatives Rehnquist, Scalia, and Thomas dissenting, Justice O'Connor, writing for the top US court, said "We cannot sanction stops justified only by the generalized and ever-present possibility that interrogation and inspection may reveal that any given motorist has committed some crime."
The case involved police roadblocks set up around "high-crime areas" in Indianapolis, stopping a set number of cars, questioning the passengers, asking for driver's license & registration, sometimes asking drivers if the police could search the car, and then walking a drug-sniffing dog around the car before the drivers were allowed to move on. If a dog "alerted" on a car, the occupants were taken out and the vehicles searched thoroughly. Two of those drivers who had their vehicles searched and were found to have no illegal drugs sued the city in federal court to stop the practice.-
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- Psychedelic
- 2 months ago
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This will only last until a student gets bitten, which will happen.
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- hubris_personified
- 2 months ago
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