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The women who make men gay: the genetic link


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"Scientists have discovered that gay men’s mothers, sisters and maternal aunts tend to have significantly more children than the norm — and that many of their nephews and male cousins are also gay.

The findings suggest that the same genes that trigger homosexuality in men also promote fertility in women, and that this could explain how they survive in the population when gay men themselves are unlikely to breed. The genes are instead passed on through the female line and the enhanced fertility they confer on these women ensures that they are inherited by plenty of children.

Some of these sons will grow up to be homosexual themselves. The study also revealed that gay men are more likely than heterosexuals to have a gay male relative, though only on their mother’s side of the family.

The results, from the University of Padua, in Italy, offer strong support for the theory that homosexuality is at least partly determined by a person’s genetic make-up, and is not just about personal choice or upbringing and environment. It also suggests an elegant solution to the biggest problem with this hypothesis — the “Darwinian paradox” that any genes that favour homosexuality ought to have died out through natural selection, as those that inherited them had fewer and fewer offspring.

Andrea Camperio-Ciani, who led the research, said: “Our data resolve this paradox by showing that there might be hitherto unexpected reproductive advantages associated with male homosexuality.”

The work also points to a likely location for the genes that have this effect: they almost certainly lie on the X chromosome, the package of DNA that men always inherit from their mothers.

In the study, published today in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society, Dr Camperio-Ciani’s team interviewed 98 homosexual and 100 heterosexual men in detail about their extended families. In total, more than 4,600 individuals were thus indirectly involved. They found that both the mothers and maternal aunts of the homosexuals were significantly more fertile than those of the straight men: the mothers had an average of 2.69 children compared with 2.32, and the aunts 1.98 children compared with 1.51.

Fertility rates among paternal relatives and among male relatives on the mother’s side were similar for both groups.

All this points to genes that influence both male homosexuality and female fertility being passed down along the maternal line. “The results hypothesise that genetic factors, transmitted in the maternal line, increase both the probability of being homosexual in males and fecundity in females,” Dr Camperio-Ciani said.

The study did not investigate lesbianism. The notion that homosexuality has at least some basis in biology is not now seriously disputed by scientists, though there is little consensus on what the causes might be. Some scientists think that genetics are critical, while others believe that conditions in the womb are all-important.

The question of what causes homosexuality has long divided both the gay community and social conservatives who regard same-sex partnerships as wrong. Many gay activists think that identifying biological factors that contribute to homosexuality will prove that their sexual orientation is perfectly natural and encourage tolerance. Others fear that it will lead to greater hostility, with the risk that being gay will again be seen as a disorder that might one day be “cured”."
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25 responses // The women who make men gay: the genetic link

  • It makes a lot of sense.
    VitaminB2
  • “Darwinian Paradox is convenient than explained properly.
    J_Jammer
  • Of course, a woman with many children is more likely to have a gay son. Can't you just explain that on the basis of probability?
    JanaPokana
  • We don't need "genetic proof" that being gay is natural. Just look at history of the human race.

    Also, it's obvious to have been around since biblical times, seeing as how it supposedly is "written in the bible"....

    But a good article nonetheless...
    TyMarshal
  • great, once pick and mix dna is mainstream it wont be log till they eradicate us altogether.
    teddy14
  • i never thought about how "gay dna" (if it is in fact genetic) would be passed on considering the issue of procreation between homosexual couples. the article brings up a valid point to think about. there are just a lot of variable factors in there that I think makes it hard to distinguish one explanation from another.
    cwood
  • Good point teddy14, Identifying a gay gene could potentially result in parents "choosing" to have an abortion if said genes contain potential homosexual tendencies. Dangerous territory.
    TyMarshal
  • Abortions are legal.
    J_Jammer
  • the more evidence the scientific community can present that being gay is natural rather than a choice, the sooner it stops deciding elections and getting people beaten and killed for loving someone.

    awesome
    jh64487
  • At least we've got more scientific evidence that it's a natural part of life-on-earth and we should stop trying to rewrite nature with our social and cultural preferences.

    Acknowledge it and get on with life already! I'm getting bored with all the homosexual drama in the world...

    We need to acknowledge it, welcome it into our culture, adjust our culture so that homosexuality is treated equally in every way and move forward. Homosexuality is as common and normal as the mole on the side of my head... next REAL problem please.

    Sometimes I feel like the social issues of homosexuality are akin to global warming. Science shows us proof, conservatives and those without confidence in themselves fear the change it would require in their lives (or they're just too lazy).

    Cheers.
    Stradius
  • What? So, more women + men = gay??
    kushan
  • Even if homosexuality does become a scientifically proven natural, you will still have people that are totally against homosexuals. We don't even teach Evolution in school and that is no longer a revolutionary idea. People will always stick to what they believe no matter how prejudice it may be or how many scientific facts we may throw at them to disprove them. The only way to be able to move past homophobia is to become more accepting as a society.
    Straydog97
  • We will definitely still have people who are still hateful, but like I posted in a reply to JJ, it's important to strip away certain arguments. If someone says "homosexuality isn't natural", we can be armed with science to refute that as opposed to just our feelings or beliefs.

    One may argue that people who think homosexuality isn't natural aren't going to listen to science anyway, and that may be a sad truth, but education is still key in the gay rights movement today.
  • Hmn, now if scientists would look at lesbians and their father's fertility. Oh, wait, lesbians are women, who cares?
    SuperLayne
  • I believe this article is trying to mask the whole "life-style choice" by saying there is a gentic patern/link. Many say that being gay is a life choice meaning that you aren't born to be attracted to a cerntain sex. With that being said, the whole idea of women who have many children are more likely to have a kid who is gay sounds more like a discovery of a pattern in the person's lifestyle growing up rather than genetics.
    Mihrab
  • Having lots of children is not necessarily the best road to survival for a tribe. It is the number of children that survive to reproduce that matters. Tribes with homosexuals probably did better or at least as well as tribes without them, so homosexuality helped survival and is still with us. Because gays and lesbians have fewer or no children, there were more adults to indirectly look after the young, so more survived. With a mother distracted by 8 children it was probably the homosexual over there that helped out when little Johnny almost fell off the cliff because the parents were too busy with their other 10 children. One thing is for sure, if it is here now, whatever the gene, it is because it somehow has worked.

    Take childhood cancer, etc. It does not make sense to have it here today, because the people die before reproducing, childhood cancer should not be here today, but it is. Go figure that one out.
    str8friend

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