Israeli filmed shooting prisoner
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If this hadn't been filmed and released internationally...what's the likelihood the IDF would care??
"An Israeli human rights group has released a video that shows an Israeli soldier shooting a blindfolded Palestinian man with a rubber coated steel bullet at close range.
BTselem released the video on Sunday, saying it had forwarded a copy to the Israeli military police and was demanding an investigation be opened.
The video shows a Palestinian man, whom BTselem named as Ashraf Abu Rahma, handcuffed and blindfolded standing by a group of Israeli soldiers.
One soldier aims his weapon at the Abu Rahma's legs, from about 1.5 metres away, and appears to fire at him.
Everytime I hear about how monstrous and barbaric Hamas or Hezbollah is, I remind myself that the only reason people think this way is because the mainstream mediafails to report on how horrible Israel is. This is in kind with the recent waves of attacks on journalists by the IDF and there overall lack of concern for arabs. It was also kicked out of the Lebanon by Hezbollah. Is the IDF falling apart internally, is this a sign that morale among the Israelis is falling?...let's hope so (because maybe they'll be forced to work out peace then)
"An Israeli human rights group has released a video that shows an Israeli soldier shooting a blindfolded Palestinian man with a rubber coated steel bullet at close range.
BTselem released the video on Sunday, saying it had forwarded a copy to the Israeli military police and was demanding an investigation be opened.
The video shows a Palestinian man, whom BTselem named as Ashraf Abu Rahma, handcuffed and blindfolded standing by a group of Israeli soldiers.
One soldier aims his weapon at the Abu Rahma's legs, from about 1.5 metres away, and appears to fire at him.
Everytime I hear about how monstrous and barbaric Hamas or Hezbollah is, I remind myself that the only reason people think this way is because the mainstream mediafails to report on how horrible Israel is. This is in kind with the recent waves of attacks on journalists by the IDF and there overall lack of concern for arabs. It was also kicked out of the Lebanon by Hezbollah. Is the IDF falling apart internally, is this a sign that morale among the Israelis is falling?...let's hope so (because maybe they'll be forced to work out peace then)
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I can't look at the video. I wish the occupation would end. There is not justification for what Israel does. Israel, GET OUT OF PALESTINE! END THE OCCUPATION! WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS WRONG!
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It's good to have it out!
it's time for people to see how Israel is playing.
They are shooting, razing house (with people in), provoking hatred and when they have retaliation, they will play the martyr and attack back (as the savage bombing over Beyruth!)
They are the reason the Peace never happen, they don't want it, they are stronger, better geared and supported by US so they feel untouchable!
this can not be tolerate anymore, peace has to come-
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- alexandrek
- 2 months ago
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Wow, shooting someone unarmed, cuffed and that close in range...thats disgusting, and cowardly. This poor guy and all the poor people who have been subjected to this kind of violence...why cant we find a better way to make a point?
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Another horrible Israeli government murder. Cold Blooded, and a shame on humanity. How can they do stuff this? COLD BLOODED MURDERERS...you would think after what Hitler did to them and many other groups, the Israelis would have a humanitarian gut, but they are turning out to be gutless killers in order to steel land from innocent people...and NO, the anti-Semitism argument will not stand with me...its an argument that is used for any one having their own opinion about the Israeli government. Holds no water and is a BS argument. Israel needs to start obeying the law and give back the Palestinians their land. period
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- WorldPeaceTV
- 2 months ago
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The corrupt Israeli government (not the Jews) are no better than the Nazis. The only reason American leaders have allowed this to go on is because Israelis have hijacked our Congress and they hide behind claims of antisemitism and the Jewish holocaust.
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Funny, two folks were rapping about mideast.
I said, is it not something to do with womens' rights?
Taliban, divorced man
broken homes
kids with no dads?
Blood money trust funds run out?
You got nazis trying to control back in day x
now...
ah, maybe later I'll speak clearly with no lame beer in my system.
Issues abound.
Knowledge to be passed around.
Bible, Koran and what not...
full of drug related talk.
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- macosveteran
- 2 months ago
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wow. I've never seen one sided responses against the israeli's. WAY TO GO CURRENT FAITHFUL!!
I hope this video shocks you, IT SHOULD. but who are you going to tell about it, how many e-mails can you send to public officials and others. be a part of a movement. there's enough people who just want peace and happiness to overcome the few powerfull and greedy it's all about our determination now. -
Shooting a rubber bullet at a violent rioters toe (although I admit he was handcuffed) .......I wouldn't exactly call that murder! Read the full story before you start ranting.
Both Palestinians and Israeli's have done worse. -
I wonder if former AIPAC lobbyist Wolf Blitzer will cover this on his CNN program. Something tells me not to hold my breath.
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This action shows short-sightedness on part of the Israeli military. Do they expect him to learn his lesson and never participate in this sort of behavior again? I doubt it. If anything, his hostility might be worsened.
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- bishopobispo
- 2 months ago
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Sorry to do this to you Obama supporters but it needs to be said...
Change in the Middle East? Ain't gonna happen. -
It seems to me that a BIG question we should all be (USA Citizens) asking our government officials is to justify the relationship with Israel in terms that make sense to the domestic masses.
I know the post-WorldWar II officials created Israel. Now somebody please tell me why we can't make peace there. I need history.
Thanks.
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Shooting anyone is bad enough, shooting a blindfolded and handcuffed prisoner is just shocking.
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This is disturbing.
Thumbs up to BTselem for handing out the cameras to Palestinians so that things like this can be captured and spread around the world. -
The BBC link shows the video. He was shot with a rubber bullet... Still fucked up. But hes not dead.
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The Shooting is wrong, he was already detained. But this does not change the fact that Jews and Israelis have always been in Jerusalem. There is no such thing as an occupation. They were there, before anyone else and any other Religion.
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This is a misleading post. i thought that there was a vicious killing of the man by skimming the post and comments. I am not saying there is no wrongdoing, in this case, but we don't know the whole story yet..
If he were my son i would be upset for sure but it does say he received only minor injuries and that the film was misleading. .should be investigated though by a third party.
We need to concentrate on real injustices because there are an infinite number of those being done..all over the region and the world. These comments show an obvious bias against Israel. This seems to me to be an over reaction because we don't know who to believe anymore. US media is corrupt to the bone. People naturally will overreact because they now see everything Israel does as associated with Bush. This is only true to a degree...it doesn't make everything Israeli evil either...shades of gray need to be taken into consideration....-
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- CarolynGillis
- 2 months ago
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The guy was not murdered
he was shot with a rubber bullet
And what you didnt see is how the same guy threw a brick at one of the soldiers earlier
Did you stop to think why the guy is being cuffed? Maybe he did something?
But if you want to be biased and look at the news only from one perspective I'm not gonna stop you -
Totally agree with Flying Camel, plus this shit happens every day, a Palestinian got shot with a rubber bullet by an Israeli soldier, big shocker people...
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this is a breakdown for the reply to the "overreaction" on this thread..
The guy was not murdered
he was shot with a rubber bullet
.....yea, so.. not so painful? is that your argument? its not like there actually ARE palestinians who are ever killed as a result of israeli action, right?
And what you didnt see is how the same guy threw a brick at one of the soldiers earlier
.....yes, how convenient that no one saw that.. let us forget the facts that he is already bound and contained and posed no immediate threat at the moment he was shot <***with a rubber bullet***>..
Did you stop to think why the guy is being cuffed? Maybe he did something?
.....whoa whoa WHOA WHOA.. are you sure you want to ask that question??? because then common sense would dictate that you would also need to ask MAYBE THE ISRAELIS DID SOMETHING TO HIM.. and by all accounts, any supporter of israel is far too cowardly to hear the truth.. the lame copy/paste reply to every anti-israeli post on this thread is quite telling of the intolerance to anything critical of israel..
But if you want to be biased and look at the news only from one perspective I'm not gonna stop you
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How would you respond had the story been the same but the players reversed? The video is misleading and the information minimal.
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i was over zealous.and cut and pasted several times to try to get another view out efficiently. It was rude in some of the situations because it didn't necessarily apply to that post..sorry.
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- CarolynGillis
- 2 months ago
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Just to clarify for the sensationalists:
IT WAS A RUBBER BULLET AND HE WASNT MURDERED.
Admittedly, however, shooting a handcuffed man at close range who is blindfolded and cant see it coming is inhumane and breaks just about every POW law. -
Peace will only come to the middle east when they eradicate each other. I don't understand why people get surprised when horrible things come out of this region. It's like being surprised every day when the sun comes up.
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- NoGodsNoMasters
- 2 months ago
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To all of you people who think that it is not wrong becasue he was not murdered...
It is wrong to shoot someone who is handcuffed. If this was done by American Soldiers, we would never hear the end of it. It was done by Israelies to a Palestinian, you never hear a word about it. -
I think someday in the future I will wake up to the morning news abouta nuke having gone off in israel or palestine. i dont think either side will ever be capable of not blowing each other up.
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It should be noted that this soldier was arrested . . . which brings to mind a question. For those comparing Israeli actions to those of its terrorist enemies, can any of you show me some evidence that the Palestinian Authority (or any of its equivalents) has taken action to bring to justice any such perpetrator from its ranks?
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Sensationalists are the biggest Problem.
1. They don't LISTEN.
2. They don't READ.
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Too bad it wasn't a real bullet.Hezbollah still owes Israel after the prisoner "trade" they got away with recently.That was a REAL crime.
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- squilla1123
- 2 months ago
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As of 10:05am MDT (16:05 GMT) this story does not appear on the main, or world news pages of CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News. It's really no wonder that most Americans have such a one sided view of a conflict that has seen so many atrocities committed by BOTH sides.
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Just because there is a powerful Jewish culture in America means we HAVE to side with Israel.
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first of all i totaly dont agree with the act because this act doesnt fit to the israeli army wich is the most morall army in the wholl word!!
now i would like to see one group frome the palastinian side that will picture one act out of the miliones barbaric acts that they are doing to the israelies and im not talking about rubber bulets im talking about animals that going and bombing them self and killing inecent people so you all keep quiet because there is no country in this world that will act in this conflict as morall as israel(chek your history ) -
that is just wrong that they did this . even if the man was not killed , to shoot him blindfolded even if it was a rubber bullet , its still wrong.. all i could do was cry.. Peace to everyone
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The Israeli's committing these crimes should be prosecuted for war crimes.
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- VoyagerFilms
- 2 months ago
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